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I mean budget and size doesnt always equal top notch husbandry. San Diego and Pairi Daiza are some examples, big name zoos with alot of money, but they still have some animal husbandry that isnt really good.
I'm surprised about San Diego, I thought that was meant to be great? That's a shame to hear.

Shepreth has one tiger, I can't remember the whole story but I think she was injired and is very old so is there to live out the rest of her days. Her enclosure is very small. I'll try to find out more tomorrow.
 
I'm surprised about San Diego, I thought that was meant to be great? That's a shame to hear.

Shepreth has one tiger, I can't remember the whole story but I think she was injired and is very old so is there to live out the rest of her days. Her enclosure is very small. I'll try to find out more tomorrow.
They currently have 2 older female tigers, they are retired from a breeding program at a relatively nearby zoo due to their old age, so Shepreth is looking after them in their old age and it frees up space at the other zoo to breed more tigers
 
I am too young to drive at the moment, so I am limited to train or occasionally convincing my parents to drive somewhere, although they often take me to foreign zoos on holiday like Pairi Daiza, Beauval and Artis
That's nice :) I'm very much adulted but, you know what Cambridgers are like, we're born on a bicycle 😅 now I'm in Ely so very much dependant on the very unreliable trains. But cars are so expensive these days.

I'm hoping to go to Berlin next year...mainly because I want to see the zoo 😂 a lot of good reasons to visit Berlin but that's mine!
 
They currently have 2 older female tigers, they are retired from a breeding program at a relatively nearby zoo due to their old age, so Shepreth is looking after them in their old age and it frees up space at the other zoo to breed more tigers
Ah well done, that's what it was :)

They used to also have a cougar and a lynx in VERY small cages. I think those are gone now and the tigers are the only large species they keep. The maned wolves are cute, they were hand-reared so they're friendly as puppies to the keepers and get cuddled and played with after closing hours.
 
Ah well done, that's what it was :)

They used to also have a cougar and a lynx in VERY small cages. I think those are gone now and the tigers are the only large species they keep. The maned wolves are cute, they were hand-reared so they're friendly as puppies to the keepers and get cuddled and played with after closing hours.
If I remember correctly from when I went pre-covid, the current enclosures for the Tiger and Clouded Leopard (neither particularly large) use to house these 4 species, I absolutely adore Maned Wolves and it was great to see them when I went, hopefully going to Hamerton at half term so hopefully I will see them there as well
 
If I remember correctly from when I went pre-covid, the current enclosures for the Tiger and Clouded Leopard (neither particularly large) use to house these 4 species, I absolutely adore Maned Wolves and it was great to see them when I went, hopefully going to Hamerton at half term so hopefully I will see them there as well
Bit shocking isn't it. I'm glad they've paired down. I last went in 2019 and I don't remember the leopard but I was very focused on the otters, coatis and red pandas! They also have a Scottish Wildcat in a much-too-small cage I seem to remember? I mean its a small cat but it was a very small, very cagey looking thing.

I wish they'd just stick to what they do best: small non-carnivores and rehabilitating local wildlife. But they have to bring in the punters I guess.
 
Bit shocking isn't it. I'm glad they've paired down. I last went in 2019 and I don't remember the leopard but I was very focused on the otters, coatis and red pandas! They also have a Scottish Wildcat in a much-too-small cage I seem to remember? I mean its a small cat but it was a very small, very cagey looking thing.

I wish they'd just stick to what they do best: small non-carnivores and rehabilitating local wildlife. But they have to bring in the punters I guess.
The wild cats now have access to at least 3 different areas, all still very cage looking but still more room to move around
 
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The wild cats now have access to at least 3 different areas, all still very cage shaped but still more room to move around
Yeah no I think that's what I'm remember. I mean compared to a highland forest to roam...

A lot of the animals get let out after hours though for roam and romp time. They also have backstage areas and are rotated so they all get days off from being on show.
 
All in all it's a small, budget-constrained local wildlife park that definitely hasn't always been ethical but has grown with the times and is consciously managed. It started as a hedgehog hospital and still has a hedgehog hospital, and a fleet of ambulances for injured wildlife! (Might just be one ambulance but fleet sounds better 😅) They're also partnered with some great conservation programs and do lots of good fundraising.
 
That's nice :) I'm very much adulted but, you know what Cambridgers are like, we're born on a bicycle 😅 now I'm in Ely so very much dependant on the very unreliable trains. But cars are so expensive these days.

I'm hoping to go to Berlin next year...mainly because I want to see the zoo 😂 a lot of good reasons to visit Berlin but that's mine!
I think eastern Germany might have some of the highest density of incredible zoos in the world, like Berlin and Leipzig, I would absolutely love to go as well
 
That's nice :) I'm very much adulted but, you know what Cambridgers are like, we're born on a bicycle 😅 now I'm in Ely so very much dependant on the very unreliable trains. But cars are so expensive these days.

I'm hoping to go to Berlin next year...mainly because I want to see the zoo 😂 a lot of good reasons to visit Berlin but that's mine!
I hope you consider visiting both zoos in Berlin :) They are very different but both are very much worth it.
This tells you someone who grew up in Berlin (and therefore spent a lot of the childhood and youth in both zoos) ;)
 
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I hope you consider visiting both zoos in Berlin :) They are very different but both are very much worth it.
This tells you someone who grew up in Berlin (and therefore spent a lot of the childhood and youth in both zoos) ;)
I didn't know there were two! Twice the fun :)
Cool city to grow up in!!
 
Yeah and two heavy hitters at that. Zoo berlin is one of the zoos with the most species in the world and Tierpark berlin is the biggest one in europe.
But i agree is you travel to berlin you really gotta also make a stop at leipzig, arguably the best in the country
Amazing!! I'll see if I can talk my husband into making an extra stop. We'll be getting the eurostar so should be pretty easy.

I'm also hoping to visit my friends in Poland. They're setting up an airbnb at their very remote farm house, they have lynxes and wolves around them and even coming on to their land at night! They've set up camera traps and just invested in some infrared goggles so guests can go wolf spotting at night. I'm so excited.

Might not be able to do both these trips in the same year (I'm also visiting family in the states in the spring) so will see what we most feel like this year and save the other trip up for next. Either way I'm gonna be in animal heaven 😊🐺
 
Amazing!! I'll see if I can talk my husband into making an extra stop. We'll be getting the eurostar so should be pretty easy.

I'm also hoping to visit my friends in Poland. They're setting up an airbnb at their very remote farm house, they have lynxes and wolves around them and even coming on to their land at night! They've set up camera traps and just invested in some infrared goggles so guests can go wolf spotting at night. I'm so excited.

Might not be able to do both these trips in the same year (I'm also visiting family in the states in the spring) so will see what we most feel like this year and save the other trip up for next. Either way I'm gonna be in animal heaven 😊🐺
Maybe look into getting the Deutschland Ticket. Costs 49€ and you can use basiclyall public transport in the whole country for a month. Could be worth it depending on how long your staying and what you have planned
 
Maybe look into getting the Deutschland Ticket. Costs 49€ and you can use basiclyall public transport in the whole country for a month. Could be worth it depending on how long your staying and what you have planned
God Germany is so much more advanced than us sometimes 😅 a single ticket to London can cost more than that sometimes and I'm only just over an hour away!
 
I didn't know there were two! Twice the fun :)
Cool city to grow up in!!
Yes Berlin is cool in general but zoo wise and animals wise it's really great. And both zoos are the main reasons for gaining my interest in animals and zoos. Maybe I wouldn't have gotten these interests with out Zoo (https://www.zoo-berlin.de/en) and Tierpark Berlin (https://www.tierpark-berlin.de/en/).
But caution! There is also a Tiergarten (=animal garden) in Berlin but this is a giant public park in the heart of Berlin adjoining the Zoo on one side, while the Tierpark (= animal park) is located in whole different area ;) People often get these confused.

To give you a bit more background: The reasons why there are two zoos in Berlin and why both have such fantastic collections are historical. The Zoo Berlin with it's adjoining Aquarium (alone worth it for the tuataras!) is the oldest zoo in Germany founded in 1865 and is located in the Western part of the city. When Berlin was split in the four areas of the allies after WW2 the American, British and French sections formed the Western part of the city (which included the zoo) and the Sovjet section was the whole Eastern part of the city (which hadn't a zoo back then). Then we all now Germany and also Berlin got split up in two states. But before the wall was built, the authorities in East Berlin had a problem with their citizens visiting the zoo in the Western part. To prevent this, they started building their own zoo in East Berlin - the Tierpark which finally opened in 1955. From this date on in the whole era of the Cold War, Zoo and Tierpark Berlin basically had a proxy war. If one of the zoos got a special animal, the other one acquired an even better species to be better than the enemy in the other part of the city, so the collections in each zoos were growing and growing. That was very political back then and both Berlin zoos were basically the signature project of its state.
After the reunion of the two German states, the Tierpark in the East had a lot of financial trouble and was almost closed, also because the Zoo didn't really want to accept the Tierpark at first (they were afraid only one zoo can fit in the city) and in general the Tierpark was always a bit in the shade of the more well known and central located Zoo. Eventually, the Tierpark could be rescued because the right director managed to show the Tierpark is not a competitor but can complete the Zoo.
Today both zoos are managed by the same director who is working on giving both zoos more of its own signature. While the smaller Zoo is a classical old city zoo with a lot of historical building and top seller animals like giant pandas, the Tierpark at the moment is lacking quite a few top seller animals (no lions, seals, great apes, elephants or rhinos) but it has much more space (as @Marvinb said) with large habitats for large groups of animals (especially a lot of rare ungulates like Somali wild ass ;) or three subspecies of takins ) and great landscape habitats like the new savannah (which opened last year) or the also quite new Himalayan area (opened in 2021/2022). At the moment, the old pachyderm building which used to show Asian and African elephants, Indian rhinos, manatees and earlier in the years even pygmy hippos and white rhinos is currently converted into one of the biggest elephant houses in Europe. So yeah, you definitely should visit both zoos. :)

Edit: Oops, this text went a little out of control and is much longer then I wanted it to be!
 
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