Smuggling missions now pointless.

Dash

Dash
I found it fun. I haven't been playing much E:D, have been doing some CQC, but that's a separate game. This got me back in and it reminded me of the early days of rares, sprinting across the galaxy dodging interdictions with the added element of sneaking into stations.

Really good fun. I'll probably abandon the game for a while again now as trucking between two or three systems just isn't fun for me.

I picked up a few 1.2m missions yesterday, but none of them were smuggling, they were standard trade missions. I also relogged a few times as several times I was just looking at a board of charity missions and everything else being locked up in having to be Elite.

I think FD's philosophy is that to progress in this game, people need to be playing full-time for a long period of time. This is fine for some people, but I think the bulk of the players don't have that time, so progression is rare. I'm playing my save from the beta, this particular gold-rush has made me more money than anything else but I still only moved one rank to broker.
 

Ziggy Stardust

Ziggy Stardust
signal11th said:
So what happens Sothis get nuked of course, you can't have an MMO without the usual moaning ers that seem to infest everyone of these games, but why has every other system got nuked as well? Smuggling missions from what I've seen tonight have been made completely pointless yet again. Now all I get are the same missions for a quarter of the price to do further jumps...why am I going to do that.

Unfortunately some of us don't get to spend their lives on games so this was nice for us "time-restricted" folk. The game is a bloody grind fest as it is already without making it flipping worse.
I haven't got a problem with nuking the big payouts although I still don't understand why everyone was complaining, so what someone earn't 40mil an hour? (fair play to them). Just because your line of work doesn't pay that much what's the problem?

It's just sad that a DEV can't seem to make a balanced judgement on these things, ok nerf it fair enough but don't destroy it.
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In the last line you seem to accept the need for balancing. But you blame those who'se opinion is this should be balanced for the nerf. What I am missing here is putting some of the responsibility towards those who were gaming the system and make this 40 mil an hour which you deem as fair enough.

Has the thought crossed your mind that those people who were making 40 mil an hour are the cause FD pulled the plug on these missions?
 

Daffan

Daffan
Slack said:
Smuggling still pays more than it ever did in 1.3, you've just become numb to the numbers because they were so outrageous for a week straight.

But of course you will always get the whiners that complain about not having enough time to get a Conda. Well guess what, thats how the game has always been, its always taken long to progress. Maybe you should look into playing other games (that you have time for), or try out CQC.. it was designed for the instant gratification crowd that doesnt have the time and patience to earn what they want.
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Yup. First it was 1 million was ok, then anything under 5 "SUCKED", then 10 and now you cant make 20 an hour everything is "garbage!"

lolz
 

Mikey2305

Mikey2305
i said there would be tears before bedtime.. you guys really should listen to your uncle mikey

i did the sothis things for a few days, first the smuggly stuff, then the legal and less lucrative missions because it seemed that the feds were on my case and my status was slipping, then the rare gold bonanza plus smaller missions. now ive used some of my earnings to kit out a vulture and practice some combat. now if the missions have been 'nerfed' (oh how i hate that word) then i will find something else to do and get on with it. what i wont do is stand in a corner of the playground and bawl.
 

48kspectrum

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Mikey2305 said:
i said there would be tears before bedtime.. you guys really should listen to your uncle mikey

i did the sothis things for a few days, first the smuggly stuff, then the legal and less lucrative missions because it seemed that the feds were on my case and my status was slipping, then the rare gold bonanza plus smaller missions. now ive used some of my earnings to kit out a vulture and practice some combat. now if the missions have been 'nerfed' (oh how i hate that word) then i will find something else to do and get on with it. what i wont do is stand in a corner of the playground and bawl.
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i am on the fence on this issue - but why is that all the people who have made a load of money out of this (made a vulture) are now laughing at people who cant make the same money now?
this game is very grindy so when a shortcut to riches is found then plugged up - the people who missed the boat are unhappy.
the people who caught the boat now laugh at them - in their shiny new spaceships.
just an observation.
 

Fire70

Fire70
What xxxx me is that they have done nothing for fix the awful load in times which have been plaguing the game since 1.4 yet they plug a gap which everyone was enjoying..

Customer Service A+..
 
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Commander Biscuit

Commander Biscuit
Mikey2305 said:
now if the missions have been 'nerfed' (oh how i hate that word) then i will find something else to do and get on with it. what i wont do is stand in a corner of the playground and bawl.
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And the cockroach doesn't cry when his pizza crust is swept away, he just moves onto the next one.

The smuggling community right now is stuck with a broken playstyle because of the gold rush smuggling tourists and the hasty fix to get them back into their trading vessels.
 

signal11th

signal11th
Mikey2305 said:
i said there would be tears before bedtime.. you guys really should listen to your uncle mikey

i did the sothis things for a few days, first the smuggly stuff, then the legal and less lucrative missions because it seemed that the feds were on my case and my status was slipping, then the rare gold bonanza plus smaller missions. now ive used some of my earnings to kit out a vulture and practice some combat. now if the missions have been 'nerfed' (oh how i hate that word) then i will find something else to do and get on with it. what i wont do is stand in a corner of the playground and bawl.
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Again who's bawling?? I never went to Sothis (unlike you) never made any real money (unlike you) and have not complained about missions in Sothis getting nerfed ( oh how I hate that word.........) What I'm complaining about is that all of these missions have been borked making the whole venture a lot less fun that it was. It was the knee jerk reaction by the DEVs that a: made the Sothis missions stupidly overpaid for the risk and then they went the whole other way making them worthless and just not fun.
 

Uncle Mo

Uncle Mo
I have been playing ED for about a week now and I got my start with smuggling missions. I never got out to Sothis. I have been doing quite well and I got up to a Cobra Mark iii with some nice A fittings. Now it seems like these missions are almost completely gone! There seemed to be some risk to this professions since I get interdicted constantly. Seems like a bit of an overreaction on Frontier's part.

As a new player ED has been tough to learn the basics and get a foothold. On day two I was interdicted by an NPC Python and promptly blown up before I could run away (I ended up at the worst orientation possible and he opened fire almost instantly). This is a 55 million credit ship going after a brand new player! I'll move on and try some different professions of course. But, this is a worrisome reaction since the Bulletin Board seems almost useless now in comparison.
I am certainly not expecting to be in a well-fitted Python after a week of play, but we all share the same universe and there's no 'high-sec' newbie friendly areas. I just want to be competitive at something.
 

SkipRat

SkipRat
All they had to do was increase the amount of cargo you had to carry and reduced the time you have to do the missions. Also, carry exactly the same missions between solo, group and open to prevent stacking, unless you waited for some time.

Simple... The smuggling missions were fun...

But no, from one extreme to the other and now smuggling missions are pointless :(
 

FiddenUK

FiddenUK
It was messed up before when it allowed such high rewards for minimal risk. Aren't the changes now just to bring it back to a more balanced state?
 

777Driver

777Driver
Ben Ryder said:
Say it aint so :eek:
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Nope it's fine, I'm back out in the region. If by balls up you mean 'can I make 150 million in one run?' then yeah that's over. If you want to stack missions ranging from 500,000 up to 5/6 mill then it's still the way to go..


Edit - in the past 15 minutes I have accepted 11 million credits worth of cargo totalling 39 tonnes.. Yesterday I would probably have around 40 mill worth of cargo, can't see how anyone can really complain, we had a week of insane profits, now we have very good profits
 
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Theodrid

Theodrid
So let me get this straight, in the very recent past the Sothis smuggling gold rush did not exist, everyone was going about their business, seemingly happy, the odd 'Elite is boring' thread and bump was happening, but not very much. Frontier introduce the Sothis, (and other systems), gold rush, people flood to it, people exploit the log on/log offski element of the bulletin board to stack missions, it is clear, (at least to anyone with the slightest modicum of balance), that Frontier has overdone it with these missions. Some forum members point out the obvious, that these missions are overboard in terms of payouts, risk and reward and frequency, again, something that is blindingly obvious with an ounce of objectivity.

Frontier acts, because of the forum members that said these missions were OP? - probably not, Frontier do not act or listen to the community that much to be honest, it is possible but unlikely, most likely scenario here is that Frontier realised they had well over egged this pudding and acted - as they bloody well should. Suddenly, all these commanders that were happy just a few days ago, (pre Sothis), now think the game is awful, unplayable and don't want to do exactly the same thing they were doing pre Sothis? The commanders that pointed out the obvious, (that the missions were well out of kilter), are called whiners and blamed for the 'nerf' that should have come earlier than it did, it's funny, I've seen and posted in a few of the threads that said these missions were OP, there was precious little 'whining', more pure realism, the 'whining' seems to be coming from those commanders that were 'happy' pre Sothis but a few days of that and they can't seem to adjust back to reality, this is bizarre, ironic and hypocritical all at the same time.
 
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