So... why are they shooting at me?

Sounds like you ran away from a Security Officer trying to scan you. I made the same mistake to start with.
Best to walk up to security early and get scanned. You'll be good for a while then.
I think this is what happened to me on my first fetch mission. She said stay right there, so I stood there for a while and after probably two minutes it looked like she wasn't going to come up to me, so I moved and they all agrro'd on me.

I think if you only bring it out when you're facing a charge socket you might be fine. You do realize that tool can be used to stealth kill, right? That's why NPC's don't like it being brandished near them.

The second time I tried, I never got scanned at all and was able to walk into a hab. I had my scanner thing on overload since I thought I needed level two clearance and was about to stun the scientist and she did give me a verbal warning and said "Put that thing away". I switched back to normal mode and was able to continue walking around with it out no problems.

Now that you mention it, I'm not even sure how to holster it.
 
They actually tell you you're not allowed to have your tools out using words. So I believe your guess that it's not intended is unlikely to be true given that hard fact. Why go to all the trouble to record all the voices that say "Hey! Put that thing away!" and then "Good, I am glad we didn't need to take that further" or words to that effect when... all unintended? Just a bug? I don't think so.

Scanning them gets an instant hostile reaction as well. Insant; not illegal to use but... they don't want you doing it. Makes sense to me. So all that's left is using the tool to recharge. You're still not allowed to do that either. Their settlement, their rules (doesn't matter if it's tourist or military). You're allowed to hang out but you're not there on official business so you have no reason to be wielding any tools whatsoever.

Just keep it away until you need it and only use it when you are sure you cannot be seen. It's part of the game!
Watch out and don't burst an artery man.
Then it is bad game design if I have to find that information from random encounters that trigger a random message from an npc.

I for one never heard any message, even with tools out in common areas. I was strolling around a base with my scanner out
 
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Hair dryers are a little bit different than life support, though. Any place that admits guests, and has no problem sharing batteries and medpacs, ought to have no problem sharing a plugin to keep those guests alive.

Yeah but what kind of base was it? High, low,, medium security meaning high alert? Any factions you're less than popular with?

It's a harsh lesson but pad loitering gets a death sentence too and it COULD have been a bug even, with you getting scanned through a wall or something. Rule of thumb definitely for now is don't trust strange terminals, R2 .. keep those tools and weapons stowed as much as possible, probably carry power packs in case you're unsighted, possibly your SRV getaway vehicle near at hand and stay highly frosty.

I was wondering about this also. I did steal a couple of things during a mission but did not have anything in hand and leaving the base when I came under fire. No one scanned me or was even close to me as I was leaving. So is that the norm, just expect to come under fire everytime?? How is one going to update there suits if you cant steal anything?

I was in abandonned base yesterdy and raiders - or reinforcements not sure - arrived REALLY quietly. If I hadn't seen their ship I would never have heard them coming and since there were about 15 of them I count one very lucky escape. It's a nightmare if you get killed obviously but makes for a better story if or when you get away with it imo.
 
You're not allowed to carry any tool or weapon. It's ok to charge up, just do it when no one can see you.

They do warn you, though... if you listen.
In fact that is strange. I'm using charge tool quite often since alpha - and in many cases there is someone around. Never have been punished for that (yep, while just touching any weapon do an alert instantly).
 
In fact that is strange. I'm using charge tool quite often since alpha - and in many cases there is someone around. Never have been punished for that (yep, while just touching any weapon do an alert instantly).

Unless it was military base or something?? (i don't know, work the problem?)
 
I think this is what happened to me on my first fetch mission. She said stay right there, so I stood there for a while and after probably two minutes it looked like she wasn't going to come up to me, so I moved and they all agrro'd on me.



The second time I tried, I never got scanned at all and was able to walk into a hab. I had my scanner thing on overload since I thought I needed level two clearance and was about to stun the scientist and she did give me a verbal warning and said "Put that thing away". I switched back to normal mode and was able to continue walking around with it out no problems.

Now that you mention it, I'm not even sure how to holster it.
There is a bindable key for it, I just don't remember the name off the top of my head.
 
default key is U i think. cant tell you at the moment , im Validating files in steam.has it said it was updating got to 701kb :lol: and said it was ready.....click play and froze black screen:D
 
They actually tell you you're not allowed to have your tools out using words. So I believe your guess that it's not intended is unlikely to be true given that hard fact. Why go to all the trouble to record all the voices that say "Hey! Put that thing away!" and then "Good, I am glad we didn't need to take that further" or words to that effect when... all unintended? Just a bug? I don't think so.
What the purpose of legal state of a tools if all states are illegals ?

Scanning them gets an instant hostile reaction as well. Insant; not illegal to use but... they don't want you doing it. Makes sense to me.
NPCs scan you almost each time they see you but they shoot you if you scan them ? Does NPCs shoot you when you scan them in Horizon ? Does a policeman shoot you if you ask for his badge ?

So all that's left is using the tool to recharge. You're still not allowed to do that either. Their settlement, their rules (doesn't matter if it's tourist or military).
Well... do we get shot when we take a picture in a museum ? Or when we want to charge our phone on a plane or a train ? Or when we cut our steak in a restaurant ?
Just because private places have their own rules doesn't mean the rules have to be stupid. And just saying it's "the way its meant to be played" doesn't justify it's fine.

You're allowed to hang out but you're not there on official business so you have no reason to be wielding any tools whatsoever.
How do they know if i have a business or not ?

you got to remember one thing. your on a different space port, not the normal ones you can landed at. These are security posts, or agriculture sites, you wouldn't normally landed on.
So why do they give you permission to land every time you ask them for ?
 
Why do we have magic shields? Why do we get blown up for loitering? Why do we get teleported across space when we die? Why can we go faster than the speed of light?

Who cares?
 
Why do we have magic shields? Why do we get blown up for loitering? Why do we get teleported across space when we die? Why can we go faster than the speed of light?

Who cares?
A universe is a universe because the rule that make the universe are meaningfull. Rules are not here just to be here. They mostly make a story. And the story that Odyssey's AI tells is that I'm just a f*ck*ng psychopath about to go on a rampage and everyone's watching my every move ready to f*ck me up. It's just not ED universe.
And it's not a technical issus. IA from Postal² is ten time more advanced than that and this game have almost 20 years.
 
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I walked into an establishment that I was allied to, went into the Habitat (HAB), a security NPC came down the steps and opened fire at me! Within seconds, everyone there was coming at me, and firing at me, my shields weren't on because all I was doing was walking into/around the HAB (in a 0 Level security area). I can tell you I wound up dead pretty quickly, but I hadn't done anything (I hadn't drawn a weapon, or tool, I had just walked in there).
The worst thing about this situation was that I ended up having a bounty of 500cr, which I paid, then got sent to a prison. It cost me 44,000+ to use the Apex Interstellar service, back to my ship. Once I got there, I was still wanted, and decided to pay another 500cr, but even then I had to get away from there as fast as I could because I was still wanted (I had to exit to the main menu, then return before the wanted cleared.
Sadly. The next time I got wanted and killed on the ground, I paid the 1500cr, went to prison, but upon getting back to my ship, it was the same problem as the one that I mentioned above. :(
i can't help but laugh at the trigger happy 'life is cheap' mentality of the AI. It's like walking into a supermarket saying "Morning" to the security guard and getting shot in the face because your shoe lace was undone.
 
Hair dryers are a little bit different than life support, though. Any place that admits guests, and has no problem sharing batteries and medpacs, ought to have no problem sharing a plugin to keep those guests alive.
wrong. The first signs of any innocent visitor even remotely thinking about powering their life support systems must executed on the spot or society will descend into anarchy over night. Hmm suffocate to death whilst taking in the sights or be lasered to death for checking your battery level - choose wisely :unsure:
 
i can't help but laugh at the trigger happy 'life is cheap' mentality of the AI. It's like walking into a supermarket saying "Morning" to the security guard and getting shot in the face because your shoe lace was undone.
AI? I can't help but wonder if Elite's so-called "AI" is a simple binary logic tree. I.e. "If weapon drawn in restricted area then DESTROY!!!" :D
 
wrong. The first signs of any innocent visitor even remotely thinking about powering their life support systems must executed on the spot or society will descend into anarchy over night. Hmm suffocate to death whilst taking in the sights or be lasered to death for checking your battery level - choose wisely :unsure:

That made me think of this:

Yea, it's a little self-promoting but I couldn't resist. ;)
 
Neither here nor there...

I was at a station in a system where I'd been doing some mining in my Type 7, the Nostromo. I wanted to go to another system to collect my Federal Assault Ship, the Independence, so I took a shuttle there. On arrival, I find I can't go to the hangar, it says I have no accessible ship there... but I KNOW it's there.

I can't access my ships from the terminals, and there's no office to buy/manage ships... so how do I get to my Assault Ship?
 
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