Spring 2024 DLC Speculation

[Annie_konik]

lf the PZ fanbase will move on to the next Planet game anyway as soon as it's out, just like how half of the Coaster fanbase moved on to Zoo.

That's interesting! I thought most players like this game for the animals?
Personally if a game doesn't involve animals I'm probably not interested. Building entertainment parks or cities seems so boring to me. Very little chance I'd move on to a different Planet game unless it's PZ2 or some sort of game about wildlife preservation.

 

[Milurian]

How would you know?

Besides, what would be the point for Frontier? Like why would they bother? Half the PZ fanbase will move on to the next Planet game anyway as soon as it's out, just like how half of the Coaster fanbase moved on to Zoo.

All the people that moved from coaster to zoo if still interested in frontier titles will likely move onto a new planet game since the main gameplay and interest in coaster is the building and story telling aspect. This is different from planet zoo which has its largest drawing card being the animals no animals and half the people would lose interest. I do recognise this isnt the main gameplay building is but everything revolves around the animals especially in the fanbase whereas coaster was about the park itself and the theming not necessarily the coasters. If a new planet game came out for sure the big creators like delaysinger and her fans would make the transition and so would many other players just interested in the building aspect of frontiers planet games.
This will not be anywhere near half the player base though a majority simply will not move on because either they get bored of planet zoo before the next games release or they just dont keep track of frontier news. This will make up a sizeable portion of the playerbase but what will also be a large contributing factor will be planet zoo didnt just bring in planet coaster legacy players it also brought in zoo tycoon legacy players who only got planet zoo because it was the next big realistic zoo game and unless they have developed a love for frontier they wont leave planet zoo for a new game unless its a zoo game.

 

[Milurian]

That's interesting! I thought most players like this game for the animals?
Personally if a game doesn't involve animals I'm probably not interested. Building entertainment parks or cities seems so boring to me. Very little chance I'd move on to a different Planet game unless it's PZ2 or some sort of game about wildlife preservation.

I would say out of the harcore fans its about a 50 50 split between the planet coaster to planet zoo pipline and the zoo tycoon/other zoo game to planet zoo pipeline
Outside of this animal fans would likely out weigh the people who play it because they played coaster.

 

[Captain Callum]

That's interesting! I thought most players like this game for the animals?

A large part of the playerbase are simply creative builders which is why planet coaster players who aren't too attached to the theme park category moved to planet zoo since it offers a better experience with more features. Content creators who base themselves around new content releases need new content to maintain their views so they will move on aswell. Take away the creative builders who find animals as just an element to the game and the content creators and that leaves you with likely less than half of the playerbase who actually like building zoos and animals.

 

[Moonfox]

That's interesting! I thought most players like this game for the animals?
Personally if a game doesn't involve animals I'm probably not interested. Building entertainment parks or cities seems so boring to me. Very little chance I'd move on to a different Planet game unless it's PZ2 or some sort of game about wildlife preservation.

I was going to say the same. I'm not going to switch to PC2 - I might play a couple of hours of it every few months, but Planet Zoo is my daily game.

 

[Topaz Star]

I've always liked both, also played both rollercoaster tycoon & zoo tycoon. Have a slight preferance for the zoo games because as a child I always went to the zoo every year. But now as an adult I still have a friend group that goes to coaster parks on a yearly basis. My main concern with the new game is if it's something else without animals or coasters. Then it's the question if I would be interested in that game.

 

[RightWhale]

I’ll admit I’m here for the animals, and considering my computer I don’t have the space or capability to run another Planet game. A lot of features made haven’t really been my thing, like the diorama or some of the new camera modes. That’s ok, I’m obviously only a part of the fan base.

Still, I’m staying where the animals are. I do love amusement parks, so it really depends on what PC2 is like. Assuming that is the next game.

 

[Marvinb]

Im here for the creative building, but also for the animals. Its the combination of the two that makes me play this game.
Like i played Zoo Tycoon (3) and hated it, its so boring to me to just plop down finished habitats and thats it.
Likewise i never even played Planet coaster, i just have zero interest in coasters and theme parks.
So i highly doubt im gonna move on from PZ to another planet, or creative Management in general game. Something like Planet Aquarium id probably check out and play a bit, but i dont see myself switching to it completely.

 

[NZFanatic]

Everyone talking about their personal experiences with each game is missing the point. It's a given fact that a ton of Coaster players moved on to playing Zoo when it released. Whether each of you was one of them or not isn't really important. The same will happen with the next game, whether that's Coaster 2 or something else entirely. As much as I loathe to admit it, content creators play a big role in that as well, as their viewers tend to gradually switch over to whatever they're playing.

Anyway, the main point was that there's absolutely nothing for Frontier to gain from forcing out limited new content with a skeleton crew. It won't be profitable, because the "core" playerbase of Zoo isn't enough on its own to support further content, and those beyond that core will be the ones who move on to the next thing. This drift away happens with every DLC launch. Players come back to play the new content, then go away again. Once support is over, they won't come back again, or if they do, it will be sporadically and never for significant periods (overall).

Frontier is a business. They're in it for profiits. Even their passion projects will eventually die when there's no money to be made from them. They have shareholders to please, do-nothing managers to give oversized bonuses to, overheads to finance, and overworked staff to pay (and then later layoff). Once the playerbase of a game shrinks down to its core fans, there's no reason to squeeze in additional content. It makes no sense from a business perspective. Especially with a game like PZ, where the broader audience they're aiming to draw in will naturally lose interest when the ABC species are all used up and they're left with niche critters only massive nerds like us care about.

 

[markun]

On a global level noone really cares much about something like the european wildcat, chamois or coyote, i cant really be mad about it, its just the way it is. The game is called planet zoo afterall.

I totally disagree with this, I just don’t think we are all that parochial and limited in our outlook.

I definitely care about less ABC species from other parts of the world.

I am Northern European and my interests are mainly cold climate Eurasian animals. But also Australian animals.

And I would like to build a Pacific Northwest zoo in British Columbia with a Pacific rim focus but I don’t have the sufficient species.

Likewise for a small Japanese zoo because I want tanuki, Japanese serow and sika deer.

 

[RightWhale]

Frontier is a business. They're in it for profiits. Even their passion projects will eventually die when there's no money to be made from them. They have shareholders to please, do-nothing managers to give oversized bonuses to, overheads to finance, and overworked staff to pay (and then later layoff). Once the playerbase of a game shrinks down to its core fans, there's no reason to squeeze in additional content. It makes no sense from a business perspective. Especially with a game like PZ, where the broader audience they're aiming to draw in will naturally lose interest when the ABC species are all used up and they're left with niche critters only massive nerds like us care about.

Saying the quiet part out loud.

TBH say what you will about them, I don’t know how Nintendo seems to be the only video game company that understands to treat their staff well. Not that they don’t get overworked, but they have a huge retaining rate in between games. I know if the company does poorly higher-up’s will get paycuts before layoffs happen.

Business ethics seems to be a dying mindset.

 

[Cooper_yang]

As a player, I have always wanted to create a "Sichuan exhibition area" mainly featuring giant pandas, so snub-nosed monkey and takin、pheasant are definitely indispensable
Similarly, when I want to create Amazon or Himalayan themed exhibition areas, I still lack many iconic species such as anacondas, South American tapirs, and New World monkeys, bharal (the main food of snow leopards), and yaks.
So if we look at it from the perspective of your exhibition area, what other species do you need in your exhibition area?

For me, one DLC is not enough to summarize China’s biodiversity. If I were to come up with the most detailed list, then they would be like this:
1. Southwest mountainous areas (mainly Sichuan, plus Yunnan, Guizhou and other places): Asian golden cat, Eurasian otter, raccoon dog, Tufted deer, Reeve's Muntjac, sambar, Chinese Goral, Golden Snub-nosed monkey, François's Langur, Indochinese gray langur, Skywalker hoolock gibbon, Northern White-cheeked Gibbon, Chinese Monal, Golden Pheasant, Lady Amherst's Pheasant, Reeves's Pheasant, Common Pheasant, silver pheasant, Temminck's tragopan.

2. Himalayan: Pallas's Cat, Chinese Mountain Cat, Tibetan fox, wild yak, kiang, white-lipped deer, blue sheep, Tahr sheep, markhor goat, argali, Himalayan griffon, Cinereous Vulture, Bearded Vulture, Black-necked Crane, Himalayan monal, Kalij Pheasant, Blood Pheasant.

3. Greater Khingan Mountains: Amur leopard cat, yellow-throated marten, sika deer, roe deer, Steller's sea eagle, white-tailed sea eagle, golden eagle, white-naped crane, demoiselle crane, Hooded Crane, Common Crane, black stork, Eurasian pipit Heron, Mandarin Duck, Bar-headed Goose, Black Grouse, Black-billed Capercaillie, Great Bustard.

4. Yun-meng Lakes: South China Tiger, Javan Rhinoceros/Sumatran Rhinoceros, Père David's Deer, Chinese water deer, Chinese Alligator, Yangtze Giant Softshell Turtle, Sandhill crane, Oriental White Stork, White Stork, Cattle Egret, Gray Heron.

5. Exhibition box animals: King Cobra, Chinese Giant Salamander, Chinese Crocodile Lizard, Mangshan Pit Viper, Beauty rat snake, Zhou`s Box Turtle, Big-headed Turtle, Stejneger's Pit Viper, China hose.

 

[Marvinb]

I totally disagree with this, I just don’t think we are all that parochial and limited in our outlook.

I definitely care about less ABC species from other parts of the world.

I am Northern European and my interests are mainly cold climate Eurasian animals. But also Australian animals.

And I would like to build a Pacific Northwest zoo in British Columbia with a Pacific rim focus but I don’t have the sufficient species.

Likewise for a small Japanese zoo because I want tanuki, Japanese serow and sika deer.

Yeah i exaggerated a bit. What i meant was a more general trend: For the most part people interested in building local zoos in xyz are gonna be people from that area, therefore these local type animals are always going to be less requested than animals you find in zoos worldwide.
Like id bet money on it that atleast 80% of people who put the wild boar on their wishlist were europeans, same with the black bear and americans.
Im not saying any of this is good or bad, i just wanted to name a reason for why these types of animals will always be less requested ones in general thats all.

 

[nutrit]

All I can think of right now is the possibility of announcement trailer dropout next week…

 

[RightWhale]

All I can think of right now is the possibility of announcement trailer dropout next week…

I think it’s possible, anything is possible at this point. I’m gonna say next week or the week after. Considering all the steam activity I doubt we won’t hear anything till May.

 

[CharlieXGaming]

All I can think of right now is the possibility of announcement trailer dropout next week…

It’s very possible, plus I don’t think we got anything left to discuss so we really need it lol.

They’ve put out lots of posts for console players, they’ve put out the accolades trailer yesterday, and today they finally posted the first screenshot Saturday in forever (granted it was still targeted at console people) - so I’m hoping this is a sign of them finally at least addressing PC players and an announcement potentially next week on the 16th the Tuesday since Eurasia was also announced on a Tuesday.

 

[RightWhale]

It’s very possible, plus I don’t think we got anything left to discuss so we really need it lol.

What do you mean we have plenty to talk about still!
We have bir…. Ok we have done birds a lot
We could do domestics! Actually I think we had that discussion over a hundred pages ago?
Monkeys? No, that’s like birds we don’t have much to say.
South America ….. is also like birds and monkeys we’ve already said enough.
We could discuss new details Frontier has released! Wait, they haven’t done anything other than updating steam. We already talked about that.
We’ve already talked about the meta wishlist a lot.
We’ve already all done our own niche packs, possible themes, props, etc.
We even had a mini future free updates discussion.

Besides finals coming up, I’m also less busy because I don’t have much new to say. So I hope something is said soon.

 

[Cooper_yang]

It’s very possible, plus I don’t think we got anything left to discuss so we really need it lol.

They’ve put out lots of posts for console players, they’ve put out the accolades trailer yesterday, and today they finally posted the first screenshot Saturday in forever (granted it was still targeted at console people) - so I’m hoping this is a sign of them finally at least addressing PC players and an announcement potentially next week on the 16th the Tuesday since Eurasia was also announced on a Tuesday.

Actually...we could discuss why we haven't been able to have baboons.

 

[Marvinb]

Ok something newish (i guess)
Assuming the upcomming pack will be south america focused and its not the last, what kinda pack do you think should come after that?

 

[CharlieXGaming]

Actually...we could discuss why we haven't been able to have baboons.

Because frontier hates them next question lol