Spring 2024 DLC Speculation

Milurian

Milurian
NZFanatic said:
Yeah, that was my whole point. So they might as well be fused into one DLC (if we take them doing a biome pack as a given).

I'm sorry, but thinking a new wolf is more visually distinct than the Sumatran tiger just shows bias. And the layman won't be able to tell the difference between giraffes, either.

If you're fine with them as WTE animals, then that's possible (well...I don't actually think it's possible, but anyway), but if you're imagining some big new system in place with AI-driven flying birds, then absolutely no way would it be the last pack.

That's a terrible idea. The game is supposed to replicate real-life conservation efforts.
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1. fair enough i would like both but wouldnt be mad with 1
2. the difference between wolves could at least be a colour difference tigers would be small morphological traits with minor shade changes which considering we already ahev 2 different gray wolf subspecies that look pretty distinct there is a clear difference. Also yeah giraffes are probably one par with the tigers.
its also my bias you have to look for more people are exposed to and know about regional subspecies of wolves than tigers so they are more likely to be recognised.
3. No I full expect it to WTE at the most
4. I dont think I explained it well I want there to be a new system that subcategories subspecies not making them like the colour variants but like making them tabs within the zoopedia making it clear what animals are all the same species.
 

NZFanatic

NZFanatic
Milurian said:
its also my bias you have to look for more people are exposed to and know about regional subspecies of wolves than tigers so they are more likely to be recognised.
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So you're just assuming "more people" know about wolves than tigers? That doesn't sound verifiable.

Steve McJobber isn't going to know the difference between any of them, whether you're talking about tigers, wolves, giraffes or whatever else. Most people don't know and don't care to know.
Milurian said:
I dont think I explained it well I want there to be a new system that subcategories subspecies not making them like the colour variants but like making them tabs within the zoopedia making it clear what animals are all the same species.
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I see, that's a better idea. I've seen the "just make them colour variants" argument made before, so I assumed that was what you were talking about.
 

Milurian

Milurian
NZFanatic said:
So you're just assuming "more people" know about wolves than tigers? That doesn't sound verifiable.

Steve McJobber isn't going to know the difference between any of them, whether you're talking about tigers, wolves, giraffes or whatever else. Most people don't know and don't care to know.

I see, that's a better idea. I've seen the "just make them colour variants" argument made before, so I assumed that was what you were talking about.
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Steve McJobber may not know the difference in names but he can see one wolf is white and fluffy and one is yellow and not fluffy compared to tigers where yes fur density and size are visual factors to identify them but from a distance an average person play the game cannot tell the difference between tigers.
But yeah assuming people know more about wolves than tigers is probably biased.
 

NZFanatic

NZFanatic
Milurian said:
but he can see one wolf is white and fluffy and one is yellow and not fluffy
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Well, yeah, anyone can spot the difference between a white wolf and a not-white wolf, but who's to say they aren't just wildly different colours of the same wolf? Which as we all know does happen. Quite commonly. Put a Eurasian wolf next to a Northwestern wolf and ask Steve to tell you which is which.

People around here only know because we make it our business to know. We care about the differences, or at least, we should, because they are important.
 

The Carcharodontogenius

The Carcharodontogenius
NZFanatic said:
Well, yeah, anyone can spot the difference between a white wolf and a not-white wolf, but who's to say they aren't just wildly different colours of the same wolf? Which as we all know does happen. Quite commonly. Put a Eurasian wolf next to a Northwestern wolf and ask Steve to tell you which is which.

People around here only know because we make it our business to know. We care about the differences, or at least, we should, because they are important.
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Speaking of Wolves, here is a video of all Wolves. List up the ones we need in the game.
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_0a96bYlc8
 

Captain Callum

Captain Callum
CharlieXGaming said:
including a furry wall set
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Yes that's absolutely what we are missing

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Milurian

Milurian
Eletan888 said:
I think that the way the gray wolf was done in game weird. I would have loved the Mexican gray wolf to cater specifically to us North American players and another subspecies for the European crowd as I'm assuming the Mexican subspecies is non existent over there. My first choice would be a generic gray wolf, but I think there are too many morphological differences.
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I agree I have no problem if the game stuck to its method why include 2 tiger subspecies and 2 bear subspecies in the game then include the gray wolf but name it timber wolf so it less versatile.
Also keep in mind the only animals we have multiple subspecies of are the tigers, brown bears and the gray wolf with the dingos status as a subspecies debated also if ingame the dingo is marked as a sub species of the timber wolf species why does its range not include that of the dingos in the zoopedia
For me the only time I think subspecies are worth adding is when it is either dramatically morphologically different and or dramatically geographically different.
 

oca2074

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I don't want any more wolves until we've added like 100 other animals. We already have 3 lupus sub-species according to the game (Arctic, Timber, Dingo) and for 99% of the player base they are virtually indistinguishable from other wolves of the same colour morph. Catering to 1% of the player base and disregarding the 99% would be unfortunate.

I seriously pray the Highland Pack will not waste a slot on another wolf because we need more diversity now, not more variations of animals we already have multiple options for. People need to learn to suspend belief when playing PZ and just pretend the Timber Wolf is the Gray Wolf or whatever sub-specie or different wolf specie you want when using it. It's not that difficult, certainly easier than say pretending a capuchin is a tamarin. Also much easier to mod as well, so just use mods and don't give Frontier an excuse to be lazy and include another wolf.
 

Baryonix82

Baryonix82
I have 3 options

ISLANDS PACK
  • Diademed Sifaka (CR)
  • Banteng (EN)
  • Giant Golden-crowned Flying Fox (EN) [WE]
  • Matschie’s Tree-kangaroo (EN)
  • Blue-spotted Tree Monitor (EN)
COASTAL PACK
  • Sea Otter (EN)
  • West Indian Manatee (VU)
  • Southern Elephant Seal (LC)
  • Hawksbill Sea Turtle (CR)
  • Roseate Spoonbill (LC)
RAINFOREST PACK (My favorite option)
  • Brazilian Porcupine (LC) [WE]
  • Golden Lion Tamarin (EN)
  • Lion-tailed Macaque (EN)
  • Ocellated Turkey (NT)
  • Yellow-throated Marten (LC)
 
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