I have no ideaJust out of curiosity, why did Frontier choose the West African Lion?
I have no ideaJust out of curiosity, why did Frontier choose the West African Lion?
Yes, even the distribution maps of the Zoopedia for some of those choices don't match the subspecies they went for in some cases like the lion or the Indian elephant.They made a lot of… questionable decisions on base game animals, mostly making them specific subspecies, like with the HBB, Indian Elephant and the FBB. They could’ve just done the EBB, Asian Elephant, and Asiatic Black Bear, but they chose to be ultra-specific for no apparent reason.
Yeah definitely weird choice for an exact population name. But since they've broken down the lion by population group, they could do another population group, or the Asiatic subspecies. Frankly, both Lions and Giraffes are in the upper echelons of iconic zoo animals, so it's not like having a second option for both is unnecessary. At least, IMO.Just out of curiosity, why did Frontier choose the West African Lion?
The horrorIt’s just wierd that they went ultra specific for some animals but not for others. Like they could be consistent.
I personally would like PZ2 to feature really specific subspecies and populations, but give us a couple of subs for each animal. That way, we have a wide range, a higher animal count, and those of us who like building super niche specific areas are happy. For example, for just Lions, Tigers and Brown Bears, we get:
• Southeast African Lion
• Asiatic Lion
• Amur Tiger
• Sumatran Tiger
• Bengal Tiger
• Eurasian Brown Bear
• Grizzly Bear
This would make the base game selection a lot more impressive whilst also featuring subspecies
They did that with the Xbox ZT and it turned out horribly, I don’t think they should make that mistake again.It’s just wierd that they went ultra specific for some animals but not for others. Like they could be consistent.
I personally would like PZ2 to feature really specific subspecies and populations, but give us a couple of subs for each animal. That way, we have a wide range, a higher animal count, and those of us who like building super niche specific areas are happy. For example, for just Lions, Tigers and Brown Bears, we get:
• Southeast African Lion
• Asiatic Lion
• Amur Tiger
• Sumatran Tiger
• Bengal Tiger
• Eurasian Brown Bear
• Grizzly Bear
This would make the base game selection a lot more impressive whilst also featuring subspecies
They don't have to go the ZTXbox route completely. I feel like what Emcee suggested is more than enoughThey did that with the Xbox ZT and it turned out horribly, I don’t think they should make that mistake again.
At the cost of walrus, secretary birds, gerenuk, howler monkey, coati and other much different looking animals? No way, they should have added such clones at the beginning for free, like you can select those almost-the-same skins when you select the animalThey don't have to go the ZTXbox route completely. I feel like what Emcee suggested is more than enough
No one said it would be at the cost of those animals jeez dude, you’re obsessed. I’m literally talking about a hypothetical Planet Zoo 2, if you’d read my original comment.At the cost of walrus, secretary birds, gerenuk, howler monkey, coati and other much different looking animals? No way, they should have added such clones at the beginning for free, like you can select those almost-the-same skins when you select the animal
Great idea, while not going into the same route that the ZT2013 thing did with dozens of subspecies/populations. 2 for most where possible. 3 for some of the very high profile animals. no more than 3, unless it's a completely different species altogether that also looks visually different, like lemurs or macaws for example.It’s just wierd that they went ultra specific for some animals but not for others. Like they could be consistent.
I personally would like PZ2 to feature really specific subspecies and populations, but give us a couple of subs for each animal. That way, we have a wide range, a higher animal count, and those of us who like building super niche specific areas are happy. For example, for just Lions, Tigers and Brown Bears, we get:
• Southeast African Lion
• Asiatic Lion
• Amur Tiger
• Sumatran Tiger
• Bengal Tiger
• Eurasian Brown Bear
• Grizzly Bear
This would make the base game selection a lot more impressive whilst also featuring subspecies
We have no confirmation of the game shutting down, and there’s no pointing of talking about the same info we already know about the games status, speculating is way more fun.Are we done doom posting? I thought the whole game was shutting down and we were supposed to give up hope
Nah we will doom post until the game actually dies, for now though there are zero credible sources that the game is ending soon.Are we done doom posting? I thought the whole game was shutting down and we were supposed to give up hope
I'd honestly get rid of the Bengal Tiger. I think three tiger representatives are unecessary. Sumatran is a distinct subspecies from the tropics and Amur represents the mainland subspecies and is from a cold climate.It’s just wierd that they went ultra specific for some animals but not for others. Like they could be consistent.
I personally would like PZ2 to feature really specific subspecies and populations, but give us a couple of subs for each animal. That way, we have a wide range, a higher animal count, and those of us who like building super niche specific areas are happy. For example, for just Lions, Tigers and Brown Bears, we get:
• Southeast African Lion
• Asiatic Lion
• Amur Tiger
• Sumatran Tiger
• Bengal Tiger
• Eurasian Brown Bear
• Grizzly Bear
This would make the base game selection a lot more impressive whilst also featuring subspecies
I'd honestly get rid of the Bengal Tiger. I think three tiger representatives are unecessary. Sumatran is a distinct subspecies from the tropics and Amur represents the mainland subspecies and is from a cold climate.
And in an ideal world the Lion should just be labeled "Lion" imo. The existence of the Asiatic population makes this more difficult. I don't know, but every futher breakdown of the Lion taxonomically is clunky, and the common African and Asiatic names aren't nessacarily correct so I'm kind of stumped
I agree with the brown bear breakdown though
If they went the effort to get as specific for population groups for the Lion, it's almost kind of odd they haven't done anything more with it. Even just calling it African Lion would leave potential for an Asiatic Lion. Calling it Lion would be alright if they only ever wanted to do the one (and they could always change the name if plans changed) but having it so specific is just odd.I m
I mean yeah, personally I would never use the Bengal Tiger because they do not exist in captivity in the places I tend to build my zoos. But there’s no denying they are one of the world’s charismatic megafauna, and also one of the most recognised Indian animals. I think it’s still great to have them as an option for those that use them. But yeah, for me personally, I’d not use them much compared to Amur and Sumatran.
In regards to lions, I think it’s easiest to break them down into sub populations, just because the breakdown of lion subspecies, especially in captivity, is such a fluid topic. I’d say the safest bet is having two subpopulations, one from the Northern lions and one from the Southern Lions, in order to make everyone happy. And I suppose the best options for each would be the Asiatic and the Southeast African.
My word, I went onto the Xbox version for fun a couple of days ago; I forgot how atrocious it is! Don't get me wrong, I love some subspecies for quite a few animals (tigers, wolves, bears, a few hoofstock species), particularly when the subspecies vary greatly in appearance and wild habitat (and sorry captive presence is a huge factor to me too). But that game takes them to the extreme. I don't need 8 fake jaguar populations or all 70 species of agouti!I do like the idea of multiple subspecies, that was the main thing I liked about the Xbox zoo tycoon that you could have different subspecies of the same animal, like animal categories. The problem with that game was that it almost focused too much on those subspecies that it lacked in actual animal diversity in general. If we could have in PZ2 a large roster of different animals but then with those animals having subspecies, that could be a really cool thing imo and would allow for so much more variety to peoples zoos.
Everyone’s zoos are always different because of the scenery, but if we do get a sequel I really want them to focus on the animals and subspecies so that players zoos can be really different from eachother.