Spring 2024 DLC Speculation

I’m confused, do people want a new Asian Black Bear or do they just want the name of the Formosan to change? Cause these are 2 very different topics.
My bet is just having an animal called asiatic black bear or european brown bear, it must pain this group of people to see formosan or Himalayan bear notifications or listing in the market. I can't see how it's really a problem since you can just make a custom sign but I've seen this argument for years.
 
My bet is just having an animal called asiatic black bear or european brown bear, it must pain this group of people to see formosan or Himalayan bear notifications or listing in the market. I can't see how it's really a problem since you can just make a custom sign but I've seen this argument for years.
Yeah i'm sorry but i don't see how it is an issue either. Is just the name. Is not like the Formosan black bear looks any different from the general species.

I can understand the EBB thing because the grizzly is different enough and the base game versión is also not that good (that said i still don't want it taking a spot in a DLC, i was okay-ish with the wisent just because the rest of the DLC animals were great, but i still think the wisent was anniversary material at best).
 
I actually wonder, I've seen no one requesting more butterflies on here. Would people be interested in that? Because to me, that sounds like one of the best repeat Exhibit animals we could have (over like another bat, another sloth or another snake).
As long as they are visually different from the existing set of butterflies, yeah why not. The ability to receive several of them at once makes them more appealing than another bat or snake.
 
I actually wonder, I've seen no one requesting more butterflies on here. Would people be interested in that? Because to me, that sounds like one of the best repeat Exhibit animals we could have (over like another bat, another sloth or another snake).
I think aside from birds, there are definitely a few more options for WTE.

At the top of my list is the Linnaeus’ Two Toed Sloth. We already have a selection of five butterflies, and the Brown Throated Sloth is not usable for those of us who prefer to build realistically. Additionally, this would give Frontier the chance to improve the sloth climbing frames and make them more usable. So the Two Toed Sloth, to me, would be the best possible ‘repeat’ WTE animal.

After we get that, yes I agree that some more butterflies and particularly moths would be a great option. Five of my top species are the Chinese Moon Moth, Comet Moth, Atlas Moth, Emerald Swallowtail Butterfly and Great Orange Tip Butterfly. I think these five are visually distinct enough from the current five species, and would make great additions to mixed species butterfly WTE.

But the most unique WTE animals I can think of that would not be a clone of any existing animal are the orb weaver spiders. Another mixed species WTE, this could include the Giant Golden Orb Web Weaver and Madagascan Orb Web Weaver. These are the two species kept in the walkthrough spider exhibit in ZSL London Zoo’s Bug House (a particular highlight of any visit to this renowned zoo). I think these would be a great and unique addition to the WTE, and would give insect/bug houses a fantastic centrepiece exhibit.
 
But the most unique WTE animals I can think of that would not be a clone of any existing animal are the orb weaver spiders. Another mixed species WTE, this could include the Giant Golden Orb Web Weaver and Madagascan Orb Web Weaver. These are the two species kept in the walkthrough spider exhibit in ZSL London Zoo’s Bug House (a particular highlight of any visit to this renowned zoo). I think these would be a great and unique addition to the WTE, and would give insect/bug houses a fantastic centrepiece exhibit.
Omg that's so scary, I'm not sure if I would be able to go through that WTE :ROFLMAO:
 
I actually wonder, I've seen no one requesting more butterflies on here. Would people be interested in that? Because to me, that sounds like one of the best repeat Exhibit animals we could have (over like another bat, another sloth or another snake).
Personally I don't need more butterflies, I'm satisfied with the 5 we have since they cover all continents. I would prefer a new bat since we don't have any American one for example.
 
Personally I don't need more butterflies, I'm satisfied with the 5 we have since they cover all continents. I would prefer a new bat since we don't have any American one for example.
We're still lacking a butterfly for Africa and Oceania*

*The monarch butterfly is not native to Oceania or Asia, but Frontier breaks their usual trend of only including a species' native distribution (aside from ancient introductions) for the monarch for some reason.
 
We're still lacking a butterfly for Africa and Oceania*

*The monarch butterfly is not native to Oceania or Asia, but Frontier breaks their usual trend of only including a species' native distribution (aside from ancient introductions) for the monarch for some reason.
Oh that's weird, because they didn't give the monarch the Africa tag but they did give it the Oceania tag.
 
Oh that's weird, because they didn't give the monarch the Africa tag but they did give it the Oceania tag.
Monarchs aren't established in Africa to my knowledge, though occasional vagrants show up.

I had a look at what the IUCN Red List map for the monarch looked like, given Frontier usually bases their Zoopedia map on that to my knowledge, and this might be the reason:
Monarchs are also found in many other parts of the world, including Europe (mostly southern Spain, Portugal, the Azores and the Canary Islands), Australia, New Zealand, many Pacific Islands, including Hawai‘i, Taiwan and the Philippines (Opler and Wright 1999, Neves et al. 2001, Smith et al. 2005). In most cases, it is thought that occasional visitors or vagrants, often blown in by big weather events, eventually became established (Clarke and Zalucki 2004). There are now breeding populations in many of these regions (Zalucki and Clarke 2004, Neves et al. 2001). In the countries of occurrence table for this assessment, these populations are listed as "native" as the species reached these areas naturally. However, the Monarch is generally considered native only in the Americas and the Caribbean, because the host plants utilized elsewhere are non-native, having been introduced in the last several hundred years (Fernández-Haeger et al. 2015, Buden and Tennent 2017). These more recently established populations are not likely to be viable if the non-native host plants are eradicated in these areas. For these reasons, these populations are excluded from the Red List assessment.
Basically, the IUCN considers the monarch "native" to its exotic range for the sake of its assessment given it spread there naturally rather than being deliberately introduced, even though it only manages to survive in these regions because its food plants are invasive weeds introduced by humans. Still, as it says, the monarch is only really native to the Americas and isn't much better of a representative for Oceania or tropical Asia than any other exotic species is.

Just out of interest, here's a cool map of the spread of monarchs into the Asia-Pacific region:
Appendix-A-The-spread-of-monarch-butterflies-Danaus-plexippus-plexippus-across-the.ppm
 
I actually wonder, I've seen no one requesting more butterflies on here. Would people be interested in that? Because to me, that sounds like one of the best repeat Exhibit animals we could have (over like another bat, another sloth or another snake).
Well i like the ones we have, but imo 5 are plenty and i dont need any more. Would definetly take most other options over them
 
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