Spring dlc Speculation 2023

Unpopular opinion here but we absolutely don't need a rhea. I don't understand why so many of you want a rhea. We have enough ratites and there are so many other ground birds that would be 10 times better to have.
I know is very similar to an ostrich, but they are very cool. They are the biggest bird from South America, and they are very "elegant" with that greyish colours. I know they are not very special, but i want them so much. Just my thinking, i love too much rheas to leave them apart, so beautiful birds 😄
 
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Anyway, I'm starting to think it will actually be a domestic/children's/petting zoo pack in the sense that Frontier, as with the Arctic Pack (Christmas) and the Twilight Pack (Halloween) has an opportunity to capitalize on both Easter and the Chinese zodiac by headlining with a rabbit. Other three habitat animals would probably be a goat, chicken (eggs), and either a cow or donkey or pony--candidates for exhibit would again be budgies and honeybees.
I really want a pack like this to make more realistic zoos, but they also aren't my favorite animals. I do think that it seems likely. I epuld love is they took more of children's zoo approach, rather than strictly a petting zoo pack. I think there could be some more variety since "children's zoo" is more of a loose term.
 
Birds are a definitely love & hate relationship in this community. I have chosen 4 very unique and highly requested birds yet still poor birds are treated as pests in this all mammal dog eat dog world - even in a hypothetical DLC that didn’t even happened 😉🥴

I don’t feel that only birds dlc would be unmarketable. But I am just one of the customers.
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Unpopular opinion here but we absolutely don't need a rhea. I don't understand why so many of you want a rhea. We have enough ratites and there are so many other ground birds that would be 10 times better to have.
I get were you are coming from, and I would agree that something like the golden pheasant or victoria crowned pidgeons offer more novelty than another ratite.

What still speaks for them is that they would allow to build multi-species enclosures for non-tropical South America, which to me increases their appeal by more than their species would posess otherwise.
Another argument is that ratites work well in the game, and the rhea would probably not be a lot of effort to create thanks to it's similarity to the other rarites currently in game. That could make them an interesting pick for an animal pack as a sort of filler animal besides the stars.

And that was the main point I wanted to make about them - they would be quite interesting for a Highlands pack. If they wouldn't make it into that pack, I' also be less interested in them, and focus on other habitat bird species. Hopefully that clarified my point further, I don't want to appear as if I'd taken offense from the ensuing debatte ;).
 
I don't think that a bird pack would be that unmarketable. Marine Mania was one of the most popular ZT2 packs and it focused exclusively on swimming things. They could lean right into "Planet Zoo Feathered World", put out some very colorful cover art, add some nice scenery or a new mechanic and I have no doubt it would be as, if not more, popular than the aquatic pack. People like novelty and if they think that a pack offers something very different from the rest they're more likely to buy it. Even if the animal choices aren't there and the nee mechanic is actually a free update.
Marine mania was a lot more diverse, and I think people underestimate how unpopular birds are compared to other animals. People want aviaries as a concept, sure, but most people wouldn't be able to actually name many specific species they want, especially compared to terrestrial and marine animals.
 
Anyway, I'm starting to think it will actually be a domestic/children's/petting zoo pack in the sense that Frontier, as with the Arctic Pack (Christmas) and the Twilight Pack (Halloween) has an opportunity to capitalize on both Easter and the Chinese zodiac by headlining with a rabbit. Other three habitat animals would probably be a goat, chicken (eggs), and either a cow or donkey or pony--candidates for exhibit would again be budgies and honeybees.
I'm low key expecting a rabbit for free for Easter lol

(And hoping for a swan for V-day but is highly unlikely)
 
I get were you are coming from, and I would agree that something like the golden pheasant or victoria crowned pidgeons offer more novelty than another ratite.

What still speaks for them is that they would allow to build multi-species enclosures for non-tropical South America, which to me increases their appeal by more than their species would posess otherwise.
Another argument is that ratites work well in the game, and the rhea would probably not be a lot of effort to create thanks to it's similarity to the other rarites currently in game. That could make them an interesting pick for an animal pack as a sort of filler animal besides the stars.

And that was the main point I wanted to make about them - they would be quite interesting for a Highlands pack. If they wouldn't make it into that pack, I' also be less interested in them, and focus on other habitat bird species. Hopefully that clarified my point further, I don't want to appear as if I'd taken offense from the ensuing debatte ;).
You are right about the fact we could mix them with other species and that makes them cooler. But I would prefer the grey-crowned crane. Could also be mixed with a lot of animals and be based on the red-crowned crane rig. At the end of the day, it's just personal preference though. Nobody is wrong or right 😉
 
I honestly felt that way after the conservation pack, but the Emu/Wallaby were what I'd consider very highly wanted and logical choices, but absolutely required? I feel the Amur Leopard and P. Horse were the last two mammals to hit that spot. Moot point over the Emu/Wallaby anyways since they're in the game (which I'm glad for).

Obviously just my opinion but I’d consider both the wallaby and, especially, the emu as much more required/essential than either the horse or, even more so, the Amur leopard.

1: the emu and wallaby are more common in zoos than either
2: both are more novel/add more to the game in terms of variation than the Amur leopard.
3: both (especially the emu) are almost universally present in Australian sections in zoos - before their inclusion it was effectively impossible to make a realistic Australian section of a zoo, let alone a zoo set in Australia.

TBH, I would have preferred a different leopard subspecies than the Amur in any case - its niche (large north-east Asian endangered cat) was already filled by TWO cats already in-game. Perfectly happy to have both the horse and leopard but necessary? Not in my opinion.
 
If marketability is suddenly so important, we are going to get three-toed sloth, right?
It would seem likely but not guaranteed. At the game's launch, sure they were missing, but there were a lot of animals that were much more conspicuous in their absence than sloths. 3 years in, I'd say they're probably the overall most highest profile missing mammal not in the game.. Even though they're only at 4th place on my own list, which is still high, but I think we should be able to look past our own personal "most wanted" and recognize the overall appeal and likelihood of certain animals not yet in the game. And to me, that's the Sloth.


Wooops hahaha. Just read "sloth". Two toed, three toes, either is good to me.
 
On the topic of rheas, I do think we need them. They are a very important part of the South American fauna, and Patagonia is very underepresented... its another bird too on top of that. It hits all the marks for an amazing addition, please give us a rhea! For me, I even wanted them more than the emu before we got those 😅

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I don't get your point? While people here would prefer the two-toed, the general audience wouldn't know the difference in the first place. A sloth is a sloth.
If we add votes for all sloth species they would be the nr 1 most desered species… just saying…
A lot of people here would choose the two toed Sloth but for wider audience a Sloth is a Sloth and three toad Sloth would be much more recogizable and marketable species and that is a fact…
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If we add votes for all sloth species they would be the nr 1 most desered species… just saying…
A lot of people here would choose the two toed Sloth but for wider audience a Sloth is a Sloth and three toad Sloth would be much more recogizable and marketable species and that is a fact…
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Not even just the cartoon like sloths, a quick search on Google images shows almost exclusively three toed sloths. The two toed may be the far more common in zoos but there is no reason we cannot receive the three toed. Although it is much harder to keep successfully in captivity it would be similar to the proboscis monkey case
 
Honestly, if Islands is a thing, I'm pretty sure it's gonna be a standard pack, and if that's the case, I'd go with something like:
  1. North Island brown kiwi
  2. Tasmanian devil
  3. Fossa
  4. Tree kangaroo (any species)
  5. Large flying fox (WE)
Notice how I subtly made it into Oceania themed, kinda like how the Twilight was subtly North America
 
Speculating a scenery islands pack is boring because everyone seems to agree on the habitat species.
Those 3 extra ones are what give it spice, as its literally just fossa, tassi, treekangaroo and kiwi + exhibit of choice which isnt a bad pack by all means but seeing it reprated over and over again is kind of boring
Yeah it really is, I could bet the exact next one would have the unique never thought of before addition of tree kangaroo, kiwi and devil. We get it Oceania apparently needs these. Speculating a rainforest, Highlands or children's zoo is much more fun
 
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