Spring dlc Speculation 2023

Angeł

Angeł
DarthQuell said:
Honestly, if Islands is a thing, I'm pretty sure it's gonna be a standard pack, and if that's the case, I'd go with something like:
  1. North Island brown kiwi
  2. Tasmanian devil
  3. Fossa
  4. Tree kangaroo (any species)
  5. Large flying fox (WE)
Notice how I subtly made it into Oceania themed, kinda like how the Twilight was subtly North America
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I really don’t think a Tree Kangaroo will be part of an Islands pack. I can see a Rainforests pack happening before, and it being a part of this one.
I just don’t see an Islands pack having such a huge Oceania focus, when there are islands all over the world that still need representation. The Caribbean, Greenland, British Isles, Mediterannean, Hawaii to name just a few. By limiting an Islands pack to Oceania, you might as well just call it Oceania Pack (+ Fossa).
This is why I think we’ll get a Rainforests pack first, with the Tree Kangaroo. Followed by Islands with Tassie, Kiwi, Fossa and Cuban Croc.
 

Aramar

Aramar
missconception said:
I really don’t think a Tree Kangaroo will be part of an Islands pack. I can see a Rainforests pack happening before, and it being a part of this one.
I just don’t see an Islands pack having such a huge Oceania focus, when there are islands all over the world that still need representation. The Caribbean, Greenland, British Isles, Mediterannean, Hawaii to name just a few. By limiting an Islands pack to Oceania, you might as well just call it Oceania Pack (+ Fossa).
This is why I think we’ll get a Rainforests pack first, with the Tree Kangaroo. Followed by Islands with Tassie, Kiwi, Fossa and Cuban Croc.
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I've thought of this too. Maybe instead of the croc we could get a Japanese serow to get some herbivore in the pack.
 

KönigDerKaffeebohnen

K
If i had to cut out one of these 4 core members, without a doubt id snap the kiwi. Least common in zoos and has no other animals in game for chared thematic areas for new zealand.
Meanwhile the fossa and tree kangaroo both give their islands much needed new representatives to shake them up and the tassie devil has the platypus wombat and wallaby that live on its island, while also filling a big hole in the australia roster.
Id also cut out the fossa and get them in a rainforest pack instead, just to get some more diversity in here, aka a reptile.
If we go funky dream route id take the parsons chameleon, but the radiated tortoise would also do just fine. If we want to stay with a mammal from madagascar, the madagasy giant rat would be a wonderfully weird and unique addition with a decent zoo presence, dependent on zoos for the survival of the species.
And to replace the kiwi, my personal choice would be the shetland pony as one of the most important missing petting zoo animals, but something fun from indonesia like a crab eating macaque or the east jarvan langur with its two very distinct black and bright orange color morphs.
Tdlr: No kiwi, gimme monke. Fossa into rainforest, gimme reptile
 

yoav_r

yoav_r
MetalMaster1990 said:
The Tasmanian Devil would make it so much better!
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Not really, st least that's not in the way the emi and wallaby improved the roster.

Before the grassland pack we had a great selection of aistralian animals which are rare in zoos and only kept in highly specialized zoos, with the only animal common in zoos being the kangaroo. This really hurt realism when building australian areas.

Now that we got the 2 most common australian animals this is no longer a problem, making building sn australian area a much more realistic prospect, and making all previous australian animals a lot more useable.

The devil is great, but it would just hoin the ranks of "rare in zoos australian animals".
 

Pinguin

Pinguin
I would like to see Nene (goose) in Islands pack. And Kiwi, but i think two birds in one DLC is impossible :(
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Or Mandarin duck (yes they migrate outside of islands, but still they are native there).
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yoav_r

yoav_r
missconception said:
I really don’t think a Tree Kangaroo will be part of an Islands pack. I can see a Rainforests pack happening before, and it being a part of this one.
I just don’t see an Islands pack having such a huge Oceania focus, when there are islands all over the world that still need representation. The Caribbean, Greenland, British Isles, Mediterannean, Hawaii to name just a few. By limiting an Islands pack to Oceania, you might as well just call it Oceania Pack (+ Fossa).
This is why I think we’ll get a Rainforests pack first, with the Tree Kangaroo. Followed by Islands with Tassie, Kiwi, Fossa and Cuban Croc.
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The conservation pack had 3 asian animals out of 4, the twilight pack had 3 north american animals out of 4, the aquatic pack had 3 south american animals out of 4. There is no lack of endangered, nocturnal or aquatic animals respectively worldwide.

So I really think it is likely we'll get "3 oceania + 1 other", especially when the other major island region, south-east asia, already had a dedicated pack and then some.

Just because it would be likely titled "islands pack" doesn't mean we need to twist it to include less interesting animals just to cover more islands.
 
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KönigDerKaffeebohnen

K
yoav_r said:
Not really, st least that's not in the way the emi and wallaby improved the roster.

Before the grassland pack we had a great selection of aistralian animals which are rare in zoos and only kept in highly specialized zoos, with the only animal common in zoos being the kangaroo. This really hurt realism when building australian areas.

Now that we got the 2 most common australian animals this is no longer a problem, making building sn australian area a much more realistic prospect, and making all previous australian animals a lot more useable.

The devil is great, but it would just hoin the ranks of "rare in zoos australian animals".
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Not quite actually. We allready had 3 rather common in zoos animals in australia, with the red kangaroo (83 holdings) and cassowary (74) being quite common and the dingo (33) also not being rare in zoos.
But while these are good, what you literally see every where are the emu (640) and the red necked wallaby (594), which also are the 9. and 12. most common animals in the eaza in general, with only the fallow deer and meerkat being more common regarding non domestic animals.
What we had wasnt bad, but if a zoos has one of the other animals, you can bet they also got wallabys and emus, so australia zones allways felt quite incomplete.
 

DarthQuell

DarthQuell
Mayki said:
An Islands pack would be such a great opportunity to give us unique endemic species that I never get why people always suggest animals that happen to live on islands as well as the mainland, like what is the point.
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I see this, but at the same time it's hard to make island endemic islands, especially if it's an animal pack.

I like to use the Southeast Asia DLC as an example. A lot of the animals are found there, yes, but not all are endemic there. Namely the big boys, dholes and the leopard.

Plus, being realistic, I highly doubt that Frontier would make it only island endemic animals; they always spice it up by adding oddballs that we wouldn't expect
 

Chuditch

Chuditch
DarthQuell said:
I see this, but at the same time it's hard to make island endemic islands, especially if it's an animal pack
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It isn’t really. Here are potential habitat animals off the top of my head:
  1. Tasmanian Devil
  2. Sulawesi Bear Cuscus
  3. Brown Dorcopsis
  4. Goodfellow’s/Matchie’s Tree Kangaroo
  5. North Luzon Giant Cloud Rat
  6. Cuban Hutia
  7. Malagasy Giant Rat
  8. Coquerel’s Sifaka
  9. Aye-aye
  10. Sulawesi Crested Macaque
  11. Fossa
  12. Tanuki
  13. Japanese Serow
  14. Lowland Anoa
  15. North Island Brown Kiwi
  16. Maleo
  17. Palawan Peacock-pheasant
  18. Nene
  19. Victoria Crowned Pigeon
  20. Kagu
  21. Northern Rockhopper Penguin
  22. Cuban Crocodile
  23. Radiated Tortoise
  24. Crocodile Monitor
Some of these are quite obscure but Frontier is known for oddball picks, so who could say?

I’d rather an island endemics focused pack, but I don’t know which route Frontier would take and I’m fine with people speculating either way. Yes, Grasslands included animals found outside grasslands, but that’s a biome that overlaps with a lot of other biomes while islands are a self-contained landform, so it’s hard to say. I’d be alright with things like musk ox and American flamingos that have a large portion of their distribution on islands though (in an animal pack, I’d want a scenery pack to be all island endemics).
 

YesIndeed

YesIndeed
yoav_r said:
Not really, st least that's not in the way the emi and wallaby improved the roster.

Before the grassland pack we had a great selection of aistralian animals which are rare in zoos and only kept in highly specialized zoos, with the only animal common in zoos being the kangaroo. This really hurt realism when building australian areas.

Now that we got the 2 most common australian animals this is no longer a problem, making building sn australian area a much more realistic prospect, and making all previous australian animals a lot more useable.

The devil is great, but it would just hoin the ranks of "rare in zoos australian animals".
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Though it let's make Australian sections we still can't make Australian zoos. The Skunk or prairie dog aren't very exciting nor common zoo animals but we got so that we could make good North American zoos.

The goal is to get that for most countries. Specifically ones with a lot of people who play the game. That's why an echidna and an australian lizard would be so essential for its roster.you can't make aus zoos without them.
 

yoav_r

yoav_r
Chuditch said:
It isn’t really. Here are potential habitat animals off the top of my head:
  1. Tasmanian Devil
  2. Sulawesi Bear Cuscus
  3. Brown Dorcopsis
  4. Goodfellow’s/Matchie’s Tree Kangaroo
  5. North Luzon Giant Cloud Rat
  6. Cuban Hutia
  7. Malagasy Giant Rat
  8. Coquerel’s Sifaka
  9. Aye-aye
  10. Sulawesi Crested Macaque
  11. Fossa
  12. Tanuki
  13. Japanese Serow
  14. Lowland Anoa
  15. North Island Brown Kiwi
  16. Maleo
  17. Palawan Peacock-pheasant
  18. Nene
  19. Victoria Crowned Pigeon
  20. Kagu
  21. Northern Rockhopper Penguin
  22. Cuban Crocodile
  23. Radiated Tortoise
  24. Crocodile Monitor
Some of these are quite obscure but Frontier is known for oddball picks, so who could say?

I’d rather an island endemics focused pack, but I don’t know which route Frontier would take and I’m fine with people speculating either way. Yes, Grasslands included animals found outside grasslands, but that’s a biome that overlaps with a lot of other biomes while islands are a self-contained landform, so it’s hard to say. I’d be alright with things like musk ox and American flamingos that have a large portion of their distribution on islands though (in an animal pack, I’d want a scenery pack to be all island endemics).
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Nice list!

Except the tanuki whose range includes most of east asia, so not an island animal
 
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