The last one I remember doing that was saurus or whatever he calls himself now. Not heard of him in years, is he still playing SC on twitch?
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I've never actively been fleeced though, I backed the project for what I thought it was worth to me...both times. I refunded my first account because I was angry at the deceitful lack of progress, not because I felt cheated. I wanted my irritation noted by Ci~G in the only way that was open at the time, namely that of withdrawing my financial support.Yeah, you're know you're being taken for a ride
Although not sure that's actually better
I bought back in to a level I was happy and comfortable with the second time, I've never once regretted that decision either...as much as I'm known for my cynicism and outright criticism surrounding the management of the thing. You can only be fleeced if you're unaware of what's happening. That's not the case for most folk I know...and I'm certainly well aware of the marketing structure behind Ci~G and star citizen
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Mikey did it before...after a very public and embarrassing online meltdown. He was reborn from the fan boy favourite Twerk17 as the new and improved cynical and down to earth SaltEMike...now he's more Twerk than Mikey again...I sense another impending but inevitable meltdown somewhere along the line
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I don't believe there is a common denominator among backers, nor do I think people are idiots. Instead there are a number of things that each grab a subset of people. Examples but not limited to just them.
a) Astronaut dream - walking on a space ship, landing on the moon and exploring the stars - Star Citizen has the virtual version of that dream with the promise of more
b) Panini sticker collector (complete collections and FOMO) - remember collecting football stickers and the desire to complete the set - here is the adult version - but with an ever expanding collection
c) Single system, long travel times and no solo mode - keeping the player base concentrated
d) Viewing a game as a hobby or a second (or maybe even "real") life
e) Regular videos and bugs - There is always new entertainment to talk about fostering a) to d)
f) Perpetual development with no full release maintaining a) to e)
I remember first playing the original Elite it felt like I was living my astronaut dream but only a subset of it - SC has a) enough game to provide the essence of that dream but always promising much more. I collected Panini stickers a couple of times and it taught me how addictive it can be and I learned a valuable life lesson, but if you never had that lesson this can be mightily addictive. c) fosters players talking to one another and playing with friends.
Gaming for me is something I do when I have time, but I think for some it is very much more than that and depending how far you take that it's easy to justify significant spending. Given how long this has been going for three grand a year on your second life/hobby would by now get you close to a Legatus pack.
The last one is the most important because there is no reality check - you can always believe the next patch will be better and eventually they will get there. The invested optimist always believes things will get better.
In my view it's been a very carefully curated experience designed to appeal to an array of mindsets and it has been staggeringly successful.
a) Astronaut dream - walking on a space ship, landing on the moon and exploring the stars - Star Citizen has the virtual version of that dream with the promise of more
b) Panini sticker collector (complete collections and FOMO) - remember collecting football stickers and the desire to complete the set - here is the adult version - but with an ever expanding collection
c) Single system, long travel times and no solo mode - keeping the player base concentrated
d) Viewing a game as a hobby or a second (or maybe even "real") life
e) Regular videos and bugs - There is always new entertainment to talk about fostering a) to d)
f) Perpetual development with no full release maintaining a) to e)
I remember first playing the original Elite it felt like I was living my astronaut dream but only a subset of it - SC has a) enough game to provide the essence of that dream but always promising much more. I collected Panini stickers a couple of times and it taught me how addictive it can be and I learned a valuable life lesson, but if you never had that lesson this can be mightily addictive. c) fosters players talking to one another and playing with friends.
Gaming for me is something I do when I have time, but I think for some it is very much more than that and depending how far you take that it's easy to justify significant spending. Given how long this has been going for three grand a year on your second life/hobby would by now get you close to a Legatus pack.
The last one is the most important because there is no reality check - you can always believe the next patch will be better and eventually they will get there. The invested optimist always believes things will get better.
In my view it's been a very carefully curated experience designed to appeal to an array of mindsets and it has been staggeringly successful.
I like Mike, I wish he had something he really wanted to do, streaming something he actually enjoys.Mikey did it before...after a very public and embarrassing online meltdown. He was reborn from the fan boy favourite Twerk17 as the new and improved cynical and down to earth SaltEMike...now he's more Twerk than Mikey again...I sense another impending but inevitable meltdown somewhere along the line
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He actually streams a lot of other things, so good for him indeed. But I do not think he can afford loosing the SC viewership, at least not yet.
I've certainly backed a few over the years...Hellion, Gunner Heat PC...plus lots of early access, crowd funded or patreon based projects like War of Rights and quite a few others...it must be a Mole menopause thing. We won't mention the motorbikes
I've paid into a few crowd funding ventures myself, the thing is once I have paid in the money that's it, I consider I have done my bit if it reaches its goal, I consider throwing more money in after the crowd funding bit is over to be.....hmm, wasteful? Not really the word I want but it's hard to explain. If it reaches its goal I would expect the results promised for that goal to be achieved before I would put any more money in, so it would be....premature I suppose, to put more money in before the initial goal has been achieved and demonstrated. If that is achieved and they need more to reach a stretch goal, as long as that first goal is achieved I would consider putting in more.
In the past he has lamented that when he streams stuff other than SC his numbers dropped significantly.
Not sure if that is still the case.
A fair few Directors have slipped away in the last year+ then:
Always worth revisiting those tasty pull quotes from Rob R:
- Assistant Director of Systemic Gameplay and Services (Jan 2022 - ~8yrs)
- Audio Director (Mar 2022 - 7yrs)
- Art Director (Oct 2022 - 9yrs)
- Character Art Director (Apr 2023 - 8yrs)
Always worth revisiting those tasty pull quotes from Rob R:
he means me, doesn't he? but how would he KNOW?
That's not the issue, really. It's about knowing when to write something off as a total loss.I've certainly backed a few over the years...Hellion, Gunner Heat PC...plus lots of early access, crowd funded or patreon based projects like War of Rights and quite a few others...it must be a Mole menopause thing. We won't mention the motorbikes
saurus has not streamed in what has to be years now.
Saurus still streams most days every week, [edit] hasn't streamed in a year, his current last game looks to be Vampire Survivors. Definitely a Star Citizen Refugee though
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Is anything he worked on in that video actually in game at this point?
I wonder what % of work he actually created is or will end up in game, not even counting the stuff CR sent back to be reworked.
I wonder if he had to give that top of the range PC back to CI-G?