Game Discussions Star Citizen Discussion Thread v12

The backers are the testers.

They pay hundreds or thousands of dollars for the privledge to test buggy software.

Personally i'm waiting for the fianancial sector to catch onto this.

is this special tho? Other companies offer closed alpha or beta access for hard cash. Granted...usually its for the whole product you purchase up front and it entitles you to the whole deal but the procedure itself (charging money for testing access) is nothing new. CIGs pricetags and mumbo jumbo are special and unique but not in a good way.

I just kow that the "its a pledge, you are not entitled to anything" preachers are the worst cases of fanatics out there. Anybody who sunk any kind of money into this project expects the product. I simply dont believe that people hand out money for nothing in return. They want what they pay for. The ships, the extra benefits, the game. Whoever says his money was a "gift" is at best justifiying his expense so hard that he denies reality. Most people are demanding results for the up-front investment they made. And I cant really see that as "hate". Companies take their bloody times but CIG takes the cake in this case. When you could have argued back in 2015 or 2016 that people were simply impatient its abundandly clear by now that this has nothing to do with patience anymore.
 
but if they asked for pledges without spaceships you can bet they woudln't have made 100th of what they did

You obviously dont understand game development :)

Mind you, Im not sure I do anymore, they are making money hand over fist for now....

Personally i'm waiting for the fianancial sector to catch onto this.

If they catch on and do bundled CTFs and the rest it'll be another 15 years before it collapses and somehow brings down the entire PC Gaming market.....CR on cover of Time Magazine 'The Man Who Killed PC Gaming!'....I can see it now
 
But everyone will be back when the next big update will hit :)
I predict too that we'll see a massive come back to ED when Odyssey will be out !

What are fans looking forward to as the next "big" update for SC? Adding a new ship or two isn't a big update. Tinkering with delivery missions isn't. Even adding a second system would ultimately just be more of the same. What upcoming addition am I, as a backer, supposed to be excited about right now? Or are we supposed to be pinning all our hopes on Squadron 42? I'm not being (entirely) facetious, it's been a couple of years of almost zero gameplay development progress, the "roadmap" has been gutted and replaced entirely, Roberts has been MIA for the best part of a year, and it's been a long time since what I would consider the last big update, 3.0 in 2017. It was awful, but it was undoubtedly a big step forward for the game. Everything since has been lipstick on a pig.
 
Have you considered the possibility that you might secretly be a very horrible and evil person. Don't give them ideas! :ROFLMAO:

Also, isn't that essentially Tulip mania or Beanie Babies?
Too late.

"This is a portfolio in development. Changes in the the finished product are likely. Expect inferior performance and high cost. In exchange you can test this innovative and new investment approach before anyone else can."
 
@LittleAnt here's some info about one of CR's earlier projects.

First shown to the public at Summer CES 1991, the project suffered from numerous delays and was not released until 1993

The Strike Commander project took more than four years and over a million man hours on background development. Very little of that production time turned out to be actually usable in the final product, as at least one and possibly several complete project "reboots" were required to refine the graphical engine to a playable state

Would you say that development only really started in 1992 because they had to reboot it?
 
What are fans looking forward to as the next "big" update for SC? Adding a new ship or two isn't a big update. Tinkering with delivery missions isn't. Even adding a second system would ultimately just be more of the same. What upcoming addition am I, as a backer, supposed to be excited about right now? Or are we supposed to be pinning all our hopes on Squadron 42? I'm not being (entirely) facetious, it's been a couple of years of almost zero gameplay development progress, the "roadmap" has been gutted and replaced entirely, Roberts has been MIA for the best part of a year, and it's been a long time since what I would consider the last big update, 3.0 in 2017. It was awful, but it was undoubtedly a big step forward for the game. Everything since has been lipstick on a pig.

Pyro system. And hopefully high risk / high reward pvp gameplay.
 
But not for thousands of dollars, except for a select few. And as i recall, the top most backer is now one of the saltiest people about ED.

Also, the combined alpha/beta period was about 1 year wasn't it? 1.5 years?
Not arguing here. Only stating there is already a trend to make customers pay for what should be "getting paid" if we take the 'test the build' thing serious.
 
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