Game Discussions Star Citizen Discussion Thread v12

Well, we've all seen backers tell people they don't understand game development. But this guy goes further, much further.

CIG developed their own custom hot-recompile layer to CryEngine (which Lumberyard is a fork of) several years ago, allowing devs to make a change in code and then see near-instant changes in the playable sandbox in the editor. They don't have to sit through a traditional compile that the engine would normally require. So, this isn't a problem.

And in the case of major build compiles, CIG built a beastly compile farm to handle multiple builds in parallel. The last I heard was that a full compile of the whole game on the buildfarm took about two hours, but that was 2-3 years back so it could be faster now. This was a significant leap over the previous 12-hour compile times CIG was dealing with before they built their compile farm.

I'm not a CIG engineer so I couldn't tell you that CIG suffers none of the issues Amazon has with "vanilla" Lumberyard, or how many they do as an exact or even vague number, but CIG has been making the engine their own for longer than Amazon's had a license with Crytek.

As elsewhere in the article shows, Amazon management doesn't understand game software development, only generalized software development. Game development requires writing code that provokes fun and inspires emotion or creativity, not merely code that solves a problem reliably and efficiently.

Yup, Amazon doesn't understand game development. They've upgraded to stating massive corps don't understand game development.

Now, to be fair, i agree, Amazon don't seem to grok game development.

But its still funny.
 
Yup, Amazon doesn't understand game development. They've upgraded to stating massive corps don't understand game development.

Now, to be fair, i agree, Amazon don't seem to grok game development.
Well, they dont, at least their managers have zero idea of what would make an actual good game as they're too busy checking boxes on their end-of-year bonus to-do list.
Doesnt make CiG's incompetence less real though, whataboutism at its finest here.
 
And in the case of major build compiles, CIG built a beastly compile farm to handle multiple builds in parallel. The last I heard was that a full compile of the whole game on the buildfarm took about two hours, but that was 2-3 years back so it could be faster now. This was a significant leap over the previous 12-hour compile times CIG was dealing with before they built their compile farm.

Oh we all remember the delightful video where the fiber didn't reach the rack :D

Slight problem is - do a slight sniff and you will still find calls for an H:\\[redacted]\ that never ever answers the call.
 
Now that made me chuckle. I may sign up for the free-fly and take a butchers out of sheer curiosity.

Yeah, i'll do it again now i've upgraded the comp.

If performance sucks on this one then i'll laugh my rear end off.

Its also good when you are faced with the typical "you haven't even played the game you hater" argument.
 
Well, we've all seen backers tell people they don't understand game development. But this guy goes further, much further.



Yup, Amazon doesn't understand game development. They've upgraded to stating massive corps don't understand game development.

Now, to be fair, i agree, Amazon don't seem to grok game development.

But its still funny.
Google doesn't understand it neither. It's like some believe you can take millions. build up a studio and out comes a game.
 
Yeah, i'll do it again now i've upgraded the comp.

If performance sucks on this one then i'll laugh my rear end off.
Given how the event brings the game down to about 15 fps for everyone no matter what hardware you got, and I suppose the free flight event wont be much smoother... It's a given performance will suck, so you're kinda shooting down easy targets here :p
 
It sucks on any PC :D
I beg to differ - it wouldn't suck on this lads PC

Increasing surface area of this interface does not facilitate that, if the cross section remains the same. Deviations from flat cannot increase the total conductive cross section. Deviations from smooth might result in more contact with the thermal paste, at the cost of less metal on metal contact and larger voids for the paste to fill.

Having as little excess material as possible, in as small a void as possible, does. This is why improving flatness and smoothness work.




A 7C lower delta allows for 25-50MHz more across all cores or lets me shave almost 15w off the CPU's power consumption during peak loads at the same clock speed (both because of lower resistance from simply being cooler and from the lower voltage requirement for stability). The former is quite modest, but performance is performance, and every tweak adds up. The latter is important because I'd like to save as much power budget as possible for the GPU.

It also allows me to meet performance targets with a smaller cooler than I would otherwise need, which is a big help within the space constraints of this SFF case.

A benchmark is a diagnostic tool. It shows performance is actually being gained, or that there are problems that need to be addressed.



That's less of a concern in my use, and increased current and voltage at the same temperature (where I usually end up burning any temperature gains) will actually result in a reduction in lifespan, all other things being equal. I kill plenty of processors, but they usually last as long as I need them to.

That said, if the goal was to maximize longevity, a 7C reduction is not insignificant either. Every 10C or so roughly doubles the lifespan of ICs (see the Arrhenius equation and failure mechanisms like electromigration) and components like capacitors. Smaller temperature swings also means less mechanical stress from thermal cycling, so if current and voltage remain the same, and longevity is a concern, lowering peak temperatures is a great way to improve that.
This Animal would circumvent the poor coding and server issues and run like a well lubricated 'macheeeene'
Pug
 
I beg to differ - it wouldn't suck on this lads PC


This Animal would circumvent the poor coding and server issues and run like a well lubricated 'macheeeene'
Pug

If you have some sort of issue with me or the content of my posts, passive-aggressive quoting to crap up my notifications is not the means to address it, nor is it on topic for this thread.
 
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If you have some sort of issue with me or the content of my posts, passive-aggressive quoting to crap up my notifications is not the means to address it, nor is it on topic for this thread.

I can't speak for Pug, but it sounded to me like he was just using your example of extreme performance as the only way to run SC. I don't think he was having a dig at you. At least, i didn't read it that way.
 
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