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Game Discussions Star Citizen Discussion Thread v12
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I haven't seen the number of man/hours in your reasoning...
Pre-alpha prototypes of Tesla 3 from 2007 to 2015 released = less than 1000. So it's 125 cars / years = one car every 3 days. With 500 000 pre-orders, Tesla will be able to deliver the last one in the year 6130
One thing to bear in mind is that while Tesla has produced complete, finished, working vehicles, even the planets that do exist in SC are chock full of placeholder, "tier 0" technology and features. Not one of them is "finished" right now, and every single one of them is going to end up in the same refactor hell as the ships, as/when/if CIG implements more features eg land claims and settlement building.
Number of planets and moons completed from 2011-2021: 0
to me it seems stupid even in SC.
By the way In ED bartenders have some gameplay function since they buy and sell materials. In SC they are trying to make some usless drinks.
No other game has the fidelity SC has. Like bartending NPCs. That may or may not work depending how fresh the server is, and may drop your drink instead of give it to you.
Or toilets that flush, with swirling water. And p00p physics. In space. Where there is no gravity to create the swirling effect.
Can't even make this stuff up
Stations in SC have magic gravity though.
The amazing SC bartender. This goes for about three minutes ( twitch VOD link )
This is what CIG hyped as next level AI tech for years.
This is what CIG hyped as next level AI tech for years.
The bar was nearly empty and about three bar tenders stood around doing nothing for ages before one of them asked if he wanted anything. When he ordered a drink the bartender looked at him like he wasn't there for about four minutes before making a snarky comment about it being a "good choice" before akwardly getting the drink and walking backwards to give it to him, at which point he wasn't able to drink it because it was stuck to the table.
This is exactly the kind of experience I've had in many London establishments and I fail to see any issue.
The game is now broken...not one NPC standing on a chair anywhere. How are we supposed to play when it's like this?
By Jove! They've done it! The crazy fools have finally done it!
Loooooooool
Mainstream AAA industry delivers finished products - a scam!
CIG spend years misleading and lying to backers - not a scam!
I assume this is a "you" problem...do you have the game installed on a SSD?The game is now broken...not one NPC standing on a chair anywhere. How are we supposed to play when it's like this?
Give it time… the server is still loading tpose.luaThe game is now broken...not one NPC standing on a chair anywhere. How are we supposed to play when it's like this?
By definition, any Star Citizen problem boils down to a problem with the individual who thought trying to play Star Citizen was a good idea in any way.I assume this is a "you" problem...do you have the game installed on a SSD?
Icache, Ucashe - they all cache out on the gullible.
You dont need man/hours when measuring the velocity of a team.
Currently CiG is a full capacity (arent there like 500 people working for them ?) and bleeding tens of millions $ each year.
With that capacity, their full speed full content pipeline delivery was put to the test with Microtech. This is the base of the estimate for that velocity. I am being generous because that was their best performance overall. So far, Pyro matches the expectations in terms of velocity as they have been obviously not delivering it any faster, and we have to remember they have a head start with one already complete planet (Delamar). The 98 other systems will follow.
Flawed comparison. At that time Tesla were ramping up production, and actually building their factories. It was pretty well known and documented. Oh and as opposed to CiG, they actually delivered, and not one but multiple products so there are worlds of difference there. And working products, too (*). And again they are still not at full capacity, unlike CiG who will celebrate the 10th anniversary of this project in December this year and have pretty much hired everyone quite a few years ago.Pre-alpha prototypes of Tesla 3 from 2007 to 2015 released = less than 1000. So it's 125 cars / years = one car every 3 days. With 500 000 pre-orders, Tesla will be able to deliver the last one in the year 6130
Software doesnt take a whole decade to build, nothing does in software realm, even operating systems, this is completely ludicrous to think they are still in the early phases of the project. They are now with a huge pile of unmaintainable code that has spaghetti like ramifications just everywhere and touching one part will make another unrelated part crumble entirely. That's the clear sign of a bloated, soon to be replaced project usually with proper management. Again by comparison (and car comparisons with software are always, always completely irrelevant but let's entertain your idea a bit) Tesla have a fresh production line, fresh products they can improve upon, a very nice expanding market with way more demand than they can offer, and a very solid technological base (and dubious marketing tactics too...). Oh and again, working products on the market.
(*) to be nice and forum-friendly i'd limit myself to say if Tesla cars worked as good as SC game/physics engine, there would be a lot of entertaining videos around the Net...
Yep, that's about it, if you count the average of 5 planets and their moons.
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You have forgotten this is all built on the persistence afforded by wcache and LTIcache, The oft celebrated wcache ensures the persistence of ships purchased with cash, whilst the LTIcache ensures they persist after death.
So, how's Theatres of War?
You measure the velocity of the team (which CGI did), the time needed to learn the tools (which the Montréal studio is doing now) and it gives you the man/hours needed for a repetitive task (like creating a planet/moon). Afterthat you can use man/hours in your projections.
Because CIG is not ramping up production and building their tools ?
You can add now the Montréal studio in your reasoning AND man/hours.
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Dude, all we have is history to go off. We've heard for many years now how CIG are ramping up their production and building their tools. Every years the same statements from CIG and their faithful. And year on year we see the same glacial progress.
How many more years do they need before their production and tools are fully ready?
Do we need to once again reset the statement of "development only REALLY started in..."?
Based off what we have seen to date, rather than wishful thinking about what might happen, then there is no reason to be optimistic that CIG will be able to pump out new systems at a rapid pace. Or Turbulent for that matter, because even if Turbulent can do it quicker than CIG, everything still needs to be passed through CR for approval, which means so many things will be sent back for rework, because he doesn't like the NPC fashion on a moon or there isn't enough fidelity on a barren ball of rock.
Actually, yes, development really only started in
2008 probably in Chris' head.
Ok maybe I lied. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cig/star-citizen
List of most expensive video games to develop - Wikipedia
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Have you considered that's the reality ? That CIG all those years are ramping up their production and building their tools and still do ?