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Darkfyre99

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VR Golgot

VR Golgot
I do like this ShinyTracker site...

The official Round Up only mentions the Room System stuff getting pushed. But it seems this got dumped too:

Mission Manager App
Last scheduled from 2022-05-08 to 2022-08-25

Alongside converting to Building Blocks, this feature includes an updated UI in support of the dynamic mission system. Also includes the ability for players to see the reputational requirements of mission content.
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Which made me peek at other 'Quantum' related stuff. And yep, shuffled off into the long grass too...

Dynamic Events

End date has been extended from 2022-12-22 to 2023-03-28
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Bounty Hunter V2

End date has been extended from 2022-10-20 to 2023-03-01
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Ah well. I'm sure Tony's used to it by now...

VR Golgot said:
Oh Tony...

We're now in early stage testing to allow Quantum to start pushing the first few bits of simulated data out the door and start impacting the game, and we expect to go live with these efforts later this year. The first stones in the virtual AI foundation were laid long ago, but it's only been within the past couple of months as engineering resources rolled off of some other major initiatives that the implementation efforts really started to take off. This technology will allow VNPCs the freedom to operate and evolve independently of player actions and open up all sorts of new gameplay possibilities. Bounty Hunter v2 will be the first feature to exploit virtual AI but it's really just the tip of the iceberg.
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Tony, Tony, Tony

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That iceberg sure is buried deep...
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Navigare Necesse Est

Navigare Necesse Est
VR Golgot said:
I do like this ShinyTracker site...

The official Round Up only mentions the Room System stuff getting pushed. But it seems this got dumped too:



Which made me peek at other 'Quantum' related stuff. And yep, shuffled off into the long grass too...




Ah well. I'm sure Tony's used to it by now...
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Ouch, "long-distance" probing sounds painful, but you gotta do what you gotta do, maybe with a bit of lubricant it just goes smoother and I'm sure the gullibers are quite used to it.

Also "upstream" team. :ROFLMAO: My sides. Lol. Uptrickle maybe.
 

Agony_Aunt

Agony_Aunt
VR Golgot said:
I do like this ShinyTracker site...

The official Round Up only mentions the Room System stuff getting pushed. But it seems this got dumped too:



Which made me peek at other 'Quantum' related stuff. And yep, shuffled off into the long grass too...




Ah well. I'm sure Tony's used to it by now...
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Funny how they still have a roadmap, even though they don't call it a roadmap (because roadmap watchers disturb the developers) and that its exactly the same process as the old. Put stuff on it, let people base their expectations on it, then remove it or kick it further down the road.
 

VR Golgot

VR Golgot
Blast from the Past: Modularity

TLDR: It still isn't in because the relevant teams are working on Server Meshing. And Theatres of War. And Squadron 42. (Please enjoy your Cutlass variants in the meantime...)

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October 2014:

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Aug 2015

Modules will likely start coming online ‘in game’ after Arena Commander 2.0 launches; we do not have a specific date or patch to announce yet.
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Prototyping the Retali-Later...

Dec 2019:
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mawF0Gzy5o&t=303s

John Crewe said:
The stopping point has always been, up until now, and still a little bit now, that everything inside an object container can't talk to the vehicle that it's within. Which has stopped like Retaliator modules from progressing, because we needed to have the missile launchers inside the object container, so it could all be swapped out with the entire bay.

But we've got the groundwork for that now. Next quarter we can hopefully do a little bit more.
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May 2020:

John Crewe said:
So we need to make those items be part of the object containers and swap in and out. And the work for that is actually scheduled in the upcoming quarter. Whether it's going to release that quarter is not for me to say.
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Dec 2020:

John Crewe said:
The tech for having swappable rooms... It is on the schedule for early next year... It was blocked by moving some of our data from loose XML into our own data forge format, so it could tie in with other systems...

The Retaliator's will be the the first ones to have it proved out, because we have all the assets all there waiting and ready. And then once that's done, been in the game for a cycle, and we've found any issues with it, we can start going and look at the other the other ships with that that sort of stuff.
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May 2021:

John Crewe said:
In the near future we are putting, uh, the Vehicle Tech Team on actually doing the tech to allow this and we're going to start with the Retaliator.
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Dec 2021:

John Crewe said:
Uh, so, it is it is still planned. Uh, though I say this every time that people ask me, uh, it's still planned...

The big thing is, it's quite a, there's a core tech blocker on it. Which is, uh, item port system, uh, needs to work within object containers...

The problem it has at the moment is object containers assume some sort of level of, they are static. They're not dynamic. They can't, object containers themselves can't move, and they really don't like being deleted and undeleted at runtime. And the item port system within those would have to dynamically attach and detach. So, we use the Retaliator as the really good example for this and when we have this in it will be the first ship that gets the modularity in game.

The Retaliator bomber modules need the item ports for the torpedoes to be placed within the object containers, which the object container itself will be in an item attached to the ship. And we need the game to be able to read those detach and undetach events, and link all the power and missile controllers to the items within those object containers. Because at the moment those torpedo items are actually part of the exterior ship CGA[?] to make them work.

So whilst we could do the modularity right now you would never be able to get rid of those torpedoes in the ship. Um so you would swap out the room and... you just have these four size nine torpedoes shoved in the room at the same time as well.

So what we're waiting on is the Vehicle Tech Team to work on that dynamic detection retouching of item ports in object containers in items attached to ships. It's just a horrible nesting problem and when we have that in, the world's our oyster. We can, it's, that's the only thing stopping us from rolling it out.
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John Crewe said:
The people that are best suited to doing it are unfortunately the people that are looking at Server Meshing. Because they're ironically the people that made the object containers and a lot of the original pipe system code.
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April 2022:

The 'Vehicle Tech Team', who are fixing the blocker, are now the 'Arena Commander Feature Team', having taken over Theatres of War duties from Firesprite... :/

May 2022:

John Crewe: Uh yep, still planned. Um again, like the, the answer I gave earlier, the people working on it were reprioritized onto other Squadron work, so, uh, no progress since I last talked about it.
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:oops:

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Post-Script: Ongoing Endeavour

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGIKKpZJDeg&t=3785s
Why does John Crewe look like he wants to die anytime someone mentions the Endeavor?
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Agony_Aunt

Agony_Aunt
VR Golgot said:
Blast from the Past: Modularity

TLDR: It still isn't in because the relevant teams are working on Server Meshing. And Theatres of War. And Squadron 42. (Please enjoy your Cutlass variants in the meantime...)

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October 2014:

8NTa8Bj.png


Aug 2015




Prototyping the Retali-Later...

Dec 2019:
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mawF0Gzy5o&t=303s



May 2020:



Dec 2020:



May 2021:



Dec 2021:




April 2022:

The 'Vehicle Tech Team', who are fixing the blocker, are now the 'Arena Commander Feature Team', having taken over Theatres of War duties from Firesprite... :/

May 2022:



:oops:

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Post-Script: Ongoing Endeavour

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGIKKpZJDeg&t=3785s
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ToW has totally been Sataballed.
 

Agony_Aunt

Agony_Aunt
Just Star Citizen things...

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Arcade machines and players. - Star Citizen Spectrum

This was in the SQ42 monthly report, if the arcade machines are getting a UI and all of the other features to track high scores ect…. Does that mean that we as players will be able to use the...
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Comments are a fun read.

Talk about Vulkan? Is LA's alt active there i wonder?

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Actively Working on Vulkan? - Star Citizen Spectrum

In a general search, I keep reading things like the above thread title. I've heard from someone SC video they're hoping to have Vulkan by EOY. However, I can't find anywhere specifically on the...
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Dreams.txt in full force here

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My Solo Pyro Plan, with Questions - Star Citizen Spectrum

I am a largely solo player and I want to move into Pyro ASAP upon release and live completely off grid like a doomsday prepper. My current pledged fleet includes: MSR (Cargo/ground vehicle...
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Someone asking about the PvP slider....

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/3/thread/what-is-pvp-slider
(URL won't render right due to there being a naughty word. replace "what" with the abbreviation for What The F.)

Answer: Just some random rubbish CR spouted out about in the early days without giving it any actual thought as to how it would realistically work. Backers celebrated and lauded the idea, until it became clear that it wasn't happening and CIG would do something else, at which point backers celebrated and lauded the new idea.
 

Skizomeuh

Skizomeuh
If I had to go back in this mess, I think I'll go for a mug as spaceship of choice... As it happens to be far more persistent (and far more resistant, and far more prioritized by CIG) than a proper ship.
 
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