You've got to remember CIG invent new terms for already existing technologies. That's why you've got to actually search for a different term from what CIG are using
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You've got to remember CIG invent new terms for already existing technologies. That's why you've got to actually search for a different term from what CIG are using
You've got to remember CIG invent new terms for already existing technologies. That's why you've got to actually search for a different term from what CIG are using
So prospective employees seeing "server mesh technology" should be putting "P2P networking" in their resume?
CIG still using the old concept art to sell the BMM, not the new look of the ship.
Someone want to call the ASA?
And how do you call a game not released with 2 major techs needed for its release still in heavy development ?
You don't want to call it an alpha, but it is an alpha. A playable one because it's needed for the funding flow, but still an alpha, like it or not
Viajero
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... and that is still working on it 10+ years after start of development and close to half a a billion taken in pre orders, without a release in sight?
A train wreck probably, some would call it fraud even.
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You mean call them again?
CIG still using the old concept art to sell the BMM, not the new look of the ship.
Someone want to call the ASA?
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Alpha for 1 year or 10 years is still an alpha. The limit for alpha is 9 years so ?
And what you call a fraud is already the main game of a lot of gamers that prefer playing it to other similar released games.
Worst... fraud... ever
Alpha for 1 year or 10 years is still an alpha. The limit for alpha is 9 years so ?
And what you call a fraud is already the main game of a lot of gamers that prefer playing it to other similar released games.
Worst... fraud... ever
So there is no limit for an Alpha? It could in fact just stay in Alpha forever, keep making millions and never be reviewed by reviewers due to its Alpha state? And then they could just abandon it, still in Alpha, because it's earned them enough money and it's time to move on to the next game, leaving all the purchasers...oops sorry pledgers because that way they don't have to pay them back...with a set of useless jpg's and nowhere to sell them!
And how do you call a game not released with 2 major techs needed for its release still in heavy development ?
You don't want to call it an alpha, but it is an alpha. A playable one because it's needed for the funding flow, but still an alpha, like it or not
I won't call it an alpha, because it's not. Not released, and with major techs stil in heavy development? It's a technology demonstrator at this point.
Honestly, they could put "distributed backend services for a multiplayer arena game" and be done with it.So prospective employees seeing "server mesh technology" should be putting "P2P networking" in their resume?
Worst... fraud... ever
For those who feel scammed, it probably is. Yes.
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/vemddc/how_to_stop_spending_on_this_game/icqta8q/
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/vb91g2/sonow_that_we_know_what_starfield_is_is_this_star/ic6t7ol/
Viajero
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No, there are alphas and alphas. Some better than others. SC´s is indeed a very, very very bad and crappy alpha; still seriously incomplete, buggy and broken after 10+ years of development and close to 500 million spent. And where players are actually giving up and quitting even before the game is released. A train wreck even. It has probably the record for the longest alpha, the largest ever amount of money taken on pre orders and spent on a video game, but with no release in sight after 10+ years. Some would indeed call that incompetence and mismanagement at a galactic scale, others would call it even fraud.
SC is also an extremely crappy alpha simply based on Chris Roberts own definition of an alpha.
These on the other hand were much better alphas:
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Alpha for 1 year or 10 years is still an alpha. The limit for alpha is 9 years so ?
And what you call a fraud is already the main game of a lot of gamers that prefer playing it to other similar released games.
Worst... fraud... ever
Its misleading because the term has no unified definition which is pretty scammy.
In software development we define an Alpha phase as a specified period with a known ending. We have a specified scope of features to be tested. We know what we want to get out of the test and communicate those to testing teams.
Do you feel you understand those factors and understand how this moves into a subsequent Beta or Release phase? No, not an Alpha tester then are you?
In this case CIG are selling you entertainment software for cash, that's the same as any other online game. The difference is they believe that the Alpha prefix avoids having to provide a certain robust quality consumers have become accustomed to and they also believe they dont have to meet standards and support.
This is a true statement, and it's not a good thing.
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CIG has a proven track record with AaaS (Alpha as a Service). Why change such a great business model.
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CIG has a proven track record with AaaS (Alpha as a Service). Why change such a great business model.
One of the problems is it isn't just Alpha as a service is it, it's Alpha as an excuse. If you spend thousands on it and in 1 or 5 years decide you have been cheated because it's still a perpetual Alpha despite all the promises made, and the ships sold to you as investments in the game development are still not playable in game, you can't get your money back because it is an Alpha, whereas your regular released game has an undertaking to actually be what they say it is and not something completely different and/or essentially unplayable except for a couple of basic game loops.
After ten years and over half a billion dollars, most of which was crowd funded? A disgrace, an embarrassment, and given how much the Roberts Clan has siphoned away from this project into their own pockets... and utterly unethical and extremely exploitive abuse of the crowd funding model.And how do you call a game not released with 2 major techs needed for its release still in heavy development ?
You don't want to call it an alpha, but it is an alpha. A playable one because it's needed for the funding flow, but still an alpha, like it or not
Especially when we can see what other companies can do with a tithe of that funding, or even less than a percent of it.
Firstly... you're taking my comment a little seriously.
But I'll respond (with tongue-in-opposite-cheek this time) by saying that AaaS is pretty close to what players are actually getting. They're not buying a product or game, so they have no right to feel cheated if a game isn't delivered. They're literally buying game development services, and they're told that quite clearly.
From more than a year ago:
From yesterday's Clip of the Day:
Physics grids
Source: https://youtu.be/NWFgm6QU8fo?t=141
I just tripped and fell and died
Source: https://youtu.be/NWFgm6QU8fo?t=350
From yesterday's Clip of the Day:
Physics grids
I just tripped and fell and died