Steam - a blessing or a curse?

This for me too. In terms of Elite specifically I guess another slight con of Steam is (afaik) Frontier not getting 100% of your money. Personally, if I'm playing Elite I don't see why Valve deserve a cut, they did nothing for me personally re: this game.
Isn't that Frontier's choice?
 
I can only recommend ONI (bought on Steam, too) - all the steam valves you'll ever need.

I don't want steam valves I want Valve to get off their butts and finish Halflife 2s story!!! Either in an Episode 3 or via a HL3. I'm suspecting like so many other things in entertainment the writers can't actually think of a good ending so have left it. :(
 
Isn't that Frontier's choice?
Not entirely sure what you mean. Due to demand Frontier caved in and gave people the option of buying the game from Steam as an alternative to downloading it directly from Frontier. As far as I know, if the purchaser "chooses" to buy it from Steam then they take a little cut of Frontier's profit on that sale.
 
Not entirely sure what you mean. Due to demand Frontier caved in and gave people the option of buying the game from Steam as an alternative to downloading it directly from Frontier. As far as I know, if the purchaser "chooses" to buy it from Steam then they take a little cut of Frontier's profit on that sale.
Yeah, well, I paid TOP DOLLAR for ED on PS4, along with a bunch of cosmetics. I was basically forced to buy it again on PC due to how absolutely rubbish the PS4 version has become. So for me personally, I have zero guilt on my conscience for using Steam.
 
I don't want steam valves I want Valve to get off their butts and finish Halflife 2s story!!! Either in an Episode 3 or via a HL3. I'm suspecting like so many other things in entertainment the writers can't actually think of a good ending so have left it. :(
They found out that selling ogher ppl's games turns more money than making themselves ones. Do they even have talent anymore to do games?
 
They found out that selling ogher ppl's games turns more money than making themselves ones. Do they even have talent anymore to do games?

sadly that's true, I doubt they do have the talent to conclude the series :( It's another reason why I hate mp games as they put all focus into Team Fortress, Counterstrike and L4D1+2 and ignored the very game and it's fans that put them in the position to create steam in the first place. IIRC steam was initially setup for the episodic content delivery for HL2.
 
sadly that's true, I doubt they do have the talent to conclude the series :( It's another reason why I hate mp games as they put all focus into Team Fortress, Counterstrike and L4D1+2 and ignored the very game and it's fans that put them in the position to create steam in the first place. IIRC steam was initially setup for the episodic content delivery for HL2.
L4D was done by Turtle Rock. But yeah, I got Steam just to play HL 2.
 
Yeah, well, I paid TOP DOLLAR for ED on PS4, along with a bunch of cosmetics. I was basically forced to buy it again on PC due to how absolutely rubbish the PS4 version has become. So for me personally, I have zero guilt on my conscience for using Steam.
It's not so much "guilt" I'm talking about ... I'd just rather give my money to Frontier (so they can make Elite better) than to Valve Corporation (*1). That would be true irrespective of how many different platforms I bought it for.

*1 - unless of course they're going to use it to fund development of Half Life 3
 
It's not so much "guilt" I'm talking about ... I'd just rather give my money to Frontier (so they can make Elite better) than to Valve Corporation (*1). That would be true irrespective of how many different platforms I bought it for.
Well I'm not much liking how Steam interacts with ED... I might end up getting a license from Frontier just so I can launch the game without steam (I'm giving them way too much money). People say you can play ED without Steam, but I seem to remember people saying that's no longer the case with the latest download from Steam. Every time I try Frontier says I need to buy ED despite owning it....

My current problem with Steam is that it's always running and downloading data, and I'm on restricted internet. I try to use it in offline mode, but then ED won't boot for whatever reason. It's probably Frontier's fault, LOL.
 
To be honest I can't even fathom why can someone "hate" steam nowadays... The digital store is far better than any other competitor, the amount of available games is huge, the download speeds are completely ludicrous, it auto-updates your games and keeps your saves safe in the cloud, it has the mod workshop that is good enough for most games (not nearly as awesome as Nexus Mods own tool Vortex for building your perfect Skyrim build), has a constant huge stream of discounts... You have 2 hours to refund a game if you find that it doesn't work, there are customer reviews, etc... And it "just works".

Steam the game client doesn't do anything I actually want or need to be done, but it does add another layer, another barrier, to obtaining titles that are exclusive to it.

Eh, Microsoft made the GOOD Battlefront 2 free on XBox, so I'm happy playing that there.

It's also on GOG.

They found out that selling ogher ppl's games turns more money than making themselves ones. Do they even have talent anymore to do games?

They haven't put out a first party game in years and anything they've put our since 2013 was a collaboration or from a subsidiary.

Maybe if they see enough of their distribution monopoly erroded they'll be forced to sell an actual product again.
 
So has anyone bought ED in the last month or so from Steam and gotten it to load without using Steam? Heck, I'll even take running it with Steam in offline mode. I just need to cut down all this extraneous bandwidth.

And then there's Windows 10....
 
My current problem with Steam is that it's always running and downloading data, and I'm on restricted internet. I try to use it in offline mode, but then ED won't boot for whatever reason. It's probably Frontier's fault, LOL.

There's a global as well as a per-game setting to allow/disallow background downloads while you're playing a game. By default, it should be set to disallow background downloads. You can see it easily by starting to install a game or having a game being updated and launching a game. The downloads should automatically pause, and only resume when you exit your current game. Auto-update of games can also be globally set and modified on a per-game basis.

So in theory, while you're playing ED, Steam shouldn't use much traffic if any (there's tiny stuff like updating achievements I guess, but ED doesn't have any). If it does (store update? friend list status updates?), well, you might be stuck if the specific feature can't be disabled. I'd be curious to know what that traffic is.

I'm surprised the ED client doesn't work in offline mode, considering it has nothing to do with Steamworks. The only difference I ever noticed between the standalone and Steam is the update process: standalone launcher downloads its updates (very very very slowly), steam launcher doesn't (game gets updated through standard Steam updates).

Did you have to register a Frontier account? If not, then it's a case of authentication being done through Steamworks. I'll try to launch in offline mode tonight, you got me curious.

edit: have a look here too in case something can help: http://wiki.tesnexus.com/index.php/Make_Steam_friendly_to_low_bandwidth_connections
 
Speaking of bandwidth, I've been stuck in 2G dialup speed hell for the last week (hit my cap early), but it should reset in another day or two. That means I've also been stuck in Solo, which is kinda sad because one of the reasons I finally chose PC over a better console is to get to meet all you lovely chaps and lasses! Someday..
 
Speaking of bandwidth, I've been stuck in 2G dialup speed hell for the last week (hit my cap early), but it should reset in another day or two. That means I've also been stuck in Solo, which is kinda sad because one of the reasons I finally chose PC over a better console is to get to meet all you lovely chaps and lasses! Someday..

Cant you just get an uncapped internet deal?
 
Speaking of steam auto-updates, if you run a modded Skyrim or Fallout 4 you definitively want to disable auto-updates for those games. Bethesda's constant updates to the GOD FORSAKEN Creation Club will keep breaking your mods over and over, and if use use the Skyrim script extender (or it's equivalent on Fallout 4), which most of the best mods do, this means you can be up to over a week without playing while the script extender team updates their stuff to the new binary version.

Rule of thumb for Skyrim and F4, "if it works, don't fix it". You can thank me later.
 
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