Thargoid invasion - Next target systems?
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Little Update: 184 samples stored on [SNPX] ISS Nadira (HIP 8525).
If I had a wish:
We get 10 system back this cycle and do the same next cycle (which won't be easy...). In the next cycle we would loose the spire site in Lyncis Sector WU-P b5-0, but we will still have the one in Cephei Sector XO-A b3.
Before attacking the Titan with its remaining 7 controls we should attack the spire to get 85% in the remaining systems, maybe Baiabozo and Cephei Sector AF-A c11 be cleared completely (maybe Inara, too) and then blast the Titan away. With doing that we will have the remaining 4-5 controls with an 85% progress, so it will be doable to clear these with an acceptable effort.
If I had a wish:
We get 10 system back this cycle and do the same next cycle (which won't be easy...). In the next cycle we would loose the spire site in Lyncis Sector WU-P b5-0, but we will still have the one in Cephei Sector XO-A b3.
Before attacking the Titan with its remaining 7 controls we should attack the spire to get 85% in the remaining systems, maybe Baiabozo and Cephei Sector AF-A c11 be cleared completely (maybe Inara, too) and then blast the Titan away. With doing that we will have the remaining 4-5 controls with an 85% progress, so it will be doable to clear these with an acceptable effort.
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Welcome, thank you, and added to the inventory!
8334 looks believable; just in case, for a Payload amount and for Prior and Posterior journal measurements, I calculate the extrema like this:
- The maximum is Payload / (Posterior − Prior − 0.000001)
- The minimum is Payload / (Posterior − Prior + 0.000001)
The trouble with estimating Cephei Sector AV-Y b3 directly is that the ongoing siege will cause a higher measurement and thus a lower strength than expected—perhaps unless one also measures the change at another strong peripheral system and subtracts that background difference. In any case, I am making it a goal today to measure the 10–15 Ly empty Control junctions in a quieter environment!
If it helps to know:
- Clearing the periphery this week 69 will also leave M. Oya with no attacks in week 70 even if we stopped.
- After clearing the week 70 periphery to leave seven systems, it will become week 73 before M. Oya gets a single attack from Cephei Sector AF-A c11—I think against Ardhri, our clearance target this week! Being populated though, it will not matter for Titan purposes for several weeks.
- Finally in week 74 M. Oya would attack some empty systems, becoming Alerts in week 75 and contributing eventually to Titan resistance in week 76.
Two possible unknown factors are:
- If anything special happens with the Titan due to leaving a Spire site around. It appears not, but if we were to discover that Titan hearts cannot be destroyed then that will demand a storm at Cephei Sector XO-A b3 of course.
- Whether the Spire site still provides peripheral progress after the Titan explodes—in which case, it could be as well to enjoy the Titan assault then revisit the Spire site later.
So I’ve been banging away at station rescues and despite a very nice 2 billion bump to my bank balance I’ve still no idea how it helps the war effort. Infact reading this thread Ive realised being so late to the party I have absolutely no idea on how any of this works. Has a commander done a post on exactly what the dynamics of the war are? Obviously destroying thargoid ships during an invasion to stop it is easy to understand but all the rest, Titan influence/purpose and spire sites baffles me at the moment so anything I can read up on explaining the ‘rules’ would be great.
Little by little, the rescued passengers and injured pods contribute to the completion progress of the system from which they were taken, as do the successful missions themselves. As with most war activities, the actions of one Commander are quite modest—and yet our means of defending systems is exactly by Commanders doing exactly what you are doing, so thank you!
There are two general overviews:
- The top of this thread has a very concise list of each type of system and which actions are helpful. One may need to ask about some specifics, but the goal there is to be a quick answer to the questions of where to go and what to do.
- Analysing the Thargoid Simulation opens with an overview of how the war works in a wider sense, and is dedicated to optimising our strategic decisions.
Exactly what I’m looking for thankyou, it’s helped me get that ‘connect’ I felt was missing
The rest of the samples for HIP 8525 (15%) will be collected in the next 30 min
[SNPX] Nadira has stored 1124 samples at the moment, 249 Samples still missing. SNPX is on to it and will then move on to Daruwach.
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[SNPX] Nadira has stored 1124 samples at the moment, 249 Samples still missing. SNPX is on to it and will then move on to Daruwach.
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Following up for @Thordeas, we have now some very fine empty Control measurements which should place Cephei Sector AV-Y b3 more accurately:
From our junction at 15 Ly with 7020, that places a junction at 10 Ly with 20110, such that the strength of Cephei Sector AV-Y b3 at 14.330843 Ly should be 8772. The 15% strength becomes 1316, and your 824 held should be worth 9.4%. With the greatest of thanks to those at the Spire sites for doing so well, the actual number was indeed a bit higher!
| System | Distance | Prior | Payload | Posterior | Minimum | Maximum |
| Col 285 Sector KW-M c7-13 | 14.708562 Ly | 0 | 202 | 0.026038 | 7757.6 | 7758.2 |
| Col 285 Sector US-Z b14-3 | 10.780254 Ly | 0 | 204 | 0.011306 | 18041.9 | 18045.1 |
From our junction at 15 Ly with 7020, that places a junction at 10 Ly with 20110, such that the strength of Cephei Sector AV-Y b3 at 14.330843 Ly should be 8772. The 15% strength becomes 1316, and your 824 held should be worth 9.4%. With the greatest of thanks to those at the Spire sites for doing so well, the actual number was indeed a bit higher!
If that is your plan, it might be worth considering keeping the inner spire active until after the Titan is defeated - providing that doesn’t result in its immediate shutdown - because it will return those innermost controls back to ~52% on the weekly tick where it might become vulnerable enough to attack feasibly(if 7 controls isn’t good enough now, unlike with Taranis, as Frontier hinted - I suppose time will tell).
Unless that is your idea and I’m just reading it incorrectly?
For Daruwach 1725 samples have been collected and rest on the carrier. 369 samples are still missing. But we´re taking a break and come back later today with hopefully a more mighty force to takle Cephei Sector AF-A c9 and HIP 13179. If Daruwach isn´t done by then we focus on that one first.
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That would be the plan, yes. In my perfect world the titan explodes before the tick and we won't loose any progress...
Daruwach is complete with 2161 samples. We are working on Cephei Sector AF-A c9 and HIP 13179.
Thank you for the updates! If I may check a few things—
For @Shayan al Nasarwa and @PapaDragon_I with SNPX:
For @Shayan al Nasarwa and @PapaDragon_I with SNPX:
- Was the HIP 8525 payload finished eventually?
- Is your carrier for HIP 13179 moving closer?
- Has Ardhri been started?
- Is your carrier moving closer?
HIP 8525 is finished; 1.409 samples collected.
Unfortunately the owner of the [SNPX] Drag Queen Anna is not at home this weekend and cannot move the carrier. But we are doing it anyway (maybe using FSD charge).
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apologies, had been off-game most of today.
From the spreadsheet our side, reported that the carrier has the 4086 estimated for Ardhri's 15% - I'm not in the XSF discord etc. to have further specifics, appears they are running spire ops at this time from the current livestream though.
Invicta now up to 1558 from last dcoh reading, even with a target post update... ah well.
Many Thanks for clarifying those numbers..appears I was a tad low in estimation, but will keep my demand at 1500 which should still cover a minor miss in spirework. Obviously as we get closer to the tick those things will be better known. On a side note, saw in the AXI discord that Medi0cr3 and XSF finished Ardhri. Not sure on specifics however.
Excellent all around!
For @Shayan al Nasarwa, if any of your systems need more after today then we can visit them tomorrow, albeit with separate Carriers parked closer.
For @Grimscrub, I think you are actually clear to deliver Cephei Sector AV-Y b2!
For @Shayan al Nasarwa, if any of your systems need more after today then we can visit them tomorrow, albeit with separate Carriers parked closer.
For @Grimscrub, I think you are actually clear to deliver Cephei Sector AV-Y b2!
HIP 13179 is done; aprox 2.400 samples collected.
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Okay! My Imperial spies tell me that the order for Cephei Sector AF-A c9 is also fulfilled—or CMDR Sanyarin forgot to place one, but I presume the former—thus there should be no more than 500 for Cephei Sector AV-Y b3 remaining which a quick visit can complete if needed. By all means, focus on the Spire sites!
That being the case, this week we will:
Additional: @Shayan al Nasarwa is clear to deliver HIP 8525!
That being the case, this week we will:
- Finish tidying up a bit at M. Hadad.
- Establish the 5–10 Ly empty Control strength.
- Check that the inhabited Control strength is still valid within 10 Ly!
- Begin collecting a payload for next week at M. Oya.
Additional: @Shayan al Nasarwa is clear to deliver HIP 8525!
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