Indeed, but it was named long before the Old lady even got there, so that piece of lore will have to sit on the backburner for now...
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The Formidine Rift - Part 2
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Indeed, but it was named long before the Old lady even got there, so that piece of lore will have to sit on the backburner for now...
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Hah! Now that is interesting - I'm in LTT 8740 now, and the system description is actually hidden until you have entered the system, at which point it changes. Very cunning, was not aware that the Galaxy Map worked like that. I wonder how many systems people didn't bother to check out because when they first looked on the Galaxy Map they got a "No system description is available"? I always assumed it meant that it was a boring, uninhabited system. Silly me. Score one for Frontier (for a change). Now if only they could have got the system itself correct, to match the book... and the permit reference...
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Have a look at Haoria (another system from the book). I've been and got the system scanned, but the system description is missing entirely, doesn't even say "unavailable". What do you see?
"No system description is available". Will fly over and check it out momentarily.
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Now in the system, it is just blank, all it gives you is Haoria as the system name, and the star and other data. No textual description. But there is a wedding barge! Yay!
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Heh, yeah. Maybe the missing description is a bug or maybe nothing was written for it. Ferenchia has a description, so it seems odd that Haoria would be left out.
Same as you, on Horizons 64bit. I had never been in that part of the galaxy until a few days ago, and I saw that description before I entered the system. I can still see it now as well. Could it be you're too far away? Lag from the server fetching the descriptions? Do you see descriptions for other systems?
Edit: ah see it worked for you after entering, weird. All the systems in this neighboorhood (apart from Prism itself) are quit poorly done compared to what you would expect from the books.
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Legacy_LuckyLuke
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Sorry, but I have to take offense with this comment (and some of your subsequent ones too)
Whilst I agree with the sentiment of your posts, you shut down an interesting line of enquiry because you thought it 'off topic'...
We were just starting to look at Luko's role in this (albeit in a silly way to start with..) in the context of understanding the dark wheel connection to this - the symbol of which was found on a medallion detailed in a Galnet post (in-game)
The line of enquiry was to understand how Kahina/Salomé got mixed up with the dark wheel. One answer being that Luko was a former dark wheel member who recruited Kahina after she retook Chione.
I don't think any line of enquiry should be off-limit in trying to solve this mystery - we should allow ourselves to go off on tangents and explore any avenue before collectively deciding they are or are not off limits. For me that's been the life-blood of this thread.
Frankly, until we get any more clarity on all this, nothing should be off the table. And despite Drew reinforcing the fact that the book is not necessary to solve this (which is the right thing to say otherwise some will cry that a £5 book is needed to do something in-game) it sure as H helps, as others have pointed out: there wouldn't even be this mystery if Drew hadn't written the book.
Sorry for the rant - I hope you're not offended. Just felt this needed to be said.
Not sure, very strange. The standard system descriptions seem to be working for the major systems, but there are a lot of "No system description available" out there as well for named systems of little importance. Not sure if there is more than I would have noticed before just now or not. Just kicking myself for not noticing this until now.
Ferenchia gives me "No system description is available" but I have not been there and am not there at the moment. Will check it out.
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Now that I am here in Ferenchia I get the full description - "A busy independent system. etc etc" - again the in-game system does not match the book though, no proper Orbis station
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I was thinking about all this thing of dark systems that haven't been mapped... Imagine that you are driving on a road. How do you can find a town that isn't on a map? I suppose that if you get close enough... you'll be able to see it, don't you?
Could be that systems visible/selectable only if you are below a particular distance? (and if you get away that position would be empty: no star, no sign, no name, no plot, etc...)
If so, I hope that the "system" we are looking for has a "proper name" ... because if it's a generated name realizing that a new systems just "popped in" would be hard.
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I don't know if you get what I mean. It's hard sometimes explain myself in English
Could be that systems visible/selectable only if you are below a particular distance? (and if you get away that position would be empty: no star, no sign, no name, no plot, etc...)
If so, I hope that the "system" we are looking for has a "proper name" ... because if it's a generated name realizing that a new systems just "popped in" would be hard.
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I don't know if you get what I mean. It's hard sometimes explain myself in English
If only he'd signed off with 'kind regards' :/
Drew has said there may be some wrong assumptions we've made about characters in the book and things we've missed - it's very valid to keep looking there - but he's also said it's pretty much all been posted to the net so there's no Need for the book as such.
And separately once more - there are no 'dark systems' - it was discussed but not implemented. It's probably hidden in procedural name world I'm afraid!
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My apologies if I'm repeating anything that's already been said – I'm only barely acquainted with this Formidine Rift business (I was curious, having seen this thread pop up a lot), and there's no way I'm wading through 170 pages! Here are my thoughts, for what it's worth.
1. I suspect (though I could be wrong) that people are overthinking this. Drew has said he likes "misdirection", and may not have had the time/inclination to construct some elaborate puzzle. All this Salomé, Kahina and ablative-case stuff could just be noise.
It appears that Drew used FFE when preparing to write his book, so – applying Occam's razor – I reckon this elusive line from Reorte to Riedquat and beyond is a line on the FFE map. So what you're looking for (perhaps) is a system in FFE, south-west(ish) of the Lave area, which also exists in Elite Dangerous. I had a quick look at the FFE map here, but nothing leapt out at me. It could be further out, of course, or I may have missed something. "Whether it's found depends on who goes looking" could mean "Whether it's found depends on whether an FFE player goes looking".
2. It occurred to me that "Formidine Rift" could be an anagram of something. "Frontier if mid"? That's probably me overthinking it, though!
3. The "friendliest place this side of Riedquat" thing is, I think, a reference to the Oolite forum, with no wider significance.
1. I suspect (though I could be wrong) that people are overthinking this. Drew has said he likes "misdirection", and may not have had the time/inclination to construct some elaborate puzzle. All this Salomé, Kahina and ablative-case stuff could just be noise.
It appears that Drew used FFE when preparing to write his book, so – applying Occam's razor – I reckon this elusive line from Reorte to Riedquat and beyond is a line on the FFE map. So what you're looking for (perhaps) is a system in FFE, south-west(ish) of the Lave area, which also exists in Elite Dangerous. I had a quick look at the FFE map here, but nothing leapt out at me. It could be further out, of course, or I may have missed something. "Whether it's found depends on who goes looking" could mean "Whether it's found depends on whether an FFE player goes looking".
2. It occurred to me that "Formidine Rift" could be an anagram of something. "Frontier if mid"? That's probably me overthinking it, though!
3. The "friendliest place this side of Riedquat" thing is, I think, a reference to the Oolite forum, with no wider significance.
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Legacy_LuckyLuke
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Greetings Commanders,
I guess I should start my mentioning I never intended to become a rifter.
As a long time lurker in that other huge thread, I was getting a bit bored looking for new barnacles, so thought I'd take the old anaconda out for a Sunday drive to have a look at the crab nebula.
At this point I was already on the outer fringes of the Perseus arm and wondered if this was a good place to try and cross over and head toward the new outer arm.
How hard can it be? I've got a jump range of about 39.6ly, this sturdy old girl can make it to the other side; and that was the same day I started reading this thread! yep from page 1!
My plan was to work my way across the Outer Arm Vacuus from the Crab Pulsar toward the New Outer Arm where it meets the RR line then work my way back along the line and see if I can find a way across the Formidine Rift from the other side
So here's my journey
Two weeks and 170 forum pages later I'm finally back in the bubble (thank you all for keeping me company while out in the black!)
I was doing well until I hit the PHO AESCS sector that's where you will see my little detour to get round it, however it's a lot quicker than the Formidine bridge.
So I guess I'm hooked on rifting, my next planned trip is to follow out the RR line and smooth out some of the bumps then try and navigate around the other direction toward the Formidine bridge, but find a closer way across and map the back side of the rift. On the way back I will compare my route to the route published by Heisenberg a few days ago.
Before this trip I intend to stock up on as much jumponium as I can fit in my pockets and dive into that dreaded PHO AESCS sector. There's something hiding in there and its laughing at us!
By the way, any suggestions on where to sell all this data? Children of Raxxla, Dark wheel? I know Drew said rank/status etc would have no effect but it cant hurt to be allied with those guys right?
Cheers, Pip
I guess I should start my mentioning I never intended to become a rifter.
As a long time lurker in that other huge thread, I was getting a bit bored looking for new barnacles, so thought I'd take the old anaconda out for a Sunday drive to have a look at the crab nebula.
At this point I was already on the outer fringes of the Perseus arm and wondered if this was a good place to try and cross over and head toward the new outer arm.
How hard can it be? I've got a jump range of about 39.6ly, this sturdy old girl can make it to the other side; and that was the same day I started reading this thread! yep from page 1!
My plan was to work my way across the Outer Arm Vacuus from the Crab Pulsar toward the New Outer Arm where it meets the RR line then work my way back along the line and see if I can find a way across the Formidine Rift from the other side
So here's my journey
I was doing well until I hit the PHO AESCS sector that's where you will see my little detour to get round it, however it's a lot quicker than the Formidine bridge.
Before this trip I intend to stock up on as much jumponium as I can fit in my pockets and dive into that dreaded PHO AESCS sector. There's something hiding in there and its laughing at us!
By the way, any suggestions on where to sell all this data? Children of Raxxla, Dark wheel? I know Drew said rank/status etc would have no effect but it cant hurt to be allied with those guys right?
Cheers, Pip
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Welcome to the Dark Side, that was quite the trip. Most of the shops are all out of tinfoil, I had been raiding the UA forum for some of theirs but they're down to that really thin crap that tears easy so I'm just taping 16penny nails to my head now.
As far as data not sure. Unlocking Sol and Achenar are probably obvious (and easy) and the Dark Wheel is more a function of elite or founder so maybe hold on to it if you can and see whether anything pops up in coming weeks as the Beagle folks start trickling in.
In the book, the old lady suggests that the existence of whatever is in the rift is being covered up by the Imperials, the Feds and (the now defunct) Gal-cop. Kahina recently told the Distant Worlds expedition people to be careful who they sold their data to. So if you're feeling paranoid, it's probably best to sell it to a minor independent faction or to the Alliance.
If you are carrying a ton or data though, flogging it all to a minor faction can be a good way to get allied and collect an associated system permit (this is how I got my Alioth permit).
Hey Rifter-not-intended-to-be
Interesting map. Check out mine somewhere on page 154, I'd like you input on this. And come to FleetComm.
Cheers!
So, on the bigger map, do each of the white dots correspond with a system that was submitted to eddb by someone else? If so, then that means someone took the time to draw a gigantic coriolis station at the West end of the galaxy... That is bloody awesome!
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