Ahh the space madness is probably mine. I mentioned french ... but it was related to OLD Frontier First Encounter Articles .. not any upcoming Galnet things...
Ah, non, pas enCORE. ;-)
The Formidine Rift - Part 2
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Ah, non, pas enCORE. ;-)
I could not help notice that Eranin is the example system featured in this weeks news letter.
That region are also 'core systems' to some of us.
TBH, it is a very alluring way of reading the clues. But so far using them that way has not lead me to any pointer to a location or stellar object type, or anything usefull really.
The nicest thing about it is that it's only based on solid/reliable clues, so I would keep this line of inquiry in mind.
Hi there,
the passage has 12 jumps between 30 and 32.7 lys, and about 12 other jumps between 27 and 30 lys. As far as I can remember, there are quite a few between 25 and 27 as well, so with a 25 light year jump range you would not be able to make the whole crossing. My suggestion would be to pack about 40-50 charges of (+25%) jumponium with you, then you might make it (no guarantee, though, since I do not have the list of all jumps with me at the moment, so I cannot look it up and be sure).
Good travels!
Cheers, CMDR Heisenberg6626
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I think what is missing is the link to Kahina and the priestess/sorceress/diviner angle.
I'm currently on the return leg of a trip to Sag A*, with the goal of dully scanning every system I hit, so I've got plenty of time for theorizing...
Can I ask -- do you remember if you had "plot fastest route" or "plot economical route" enabled when trying to plot the jumps? I just had "economical" enabled the whole time, and did not run into problems. Trying to find the "fastest route" within the rift might lead to problems, I don't know.
Cheers, CMDR Heisenberg6626
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The most tangible link we have so far for the Kahina name etymology is Berber Queen > Queen of Aethiopia > Cassiopeia.
Kahina's second name is 'Tijani', which means 'arrogance' that helps to reinforce the Cassiopeia link. (Who was a vain, arrogant Queen.)
I still feel there's something in Cassiopeia for us to find - Drew specifically pointed us to look into the etymology of the Kahina name, and I don't expect it was so we could simply marvel at his literary skills
Muetdhiver did some nice work piecing together some other aspects of Cassiopeia which lead us to Cassiopeia A, which should be somewhere in the rift as a neutron star or black hole in the ED timeline.
I'd love it if you could have a flick through of the journal I've put together for all this. Maybe someone new will see something we have missed so far.
The closest reference for a possible location for Cassiopeia A is in the HYPHEERB sector, somewhere around (-9,500, n, -4,500)
I'm currently clearing up a few loose ends in the bubble before having a refit then heading out to start closely investigating that sector of the rift.
OK, thanks for the clarification!
I was looking at the Reorte-Quator line, something peculiar about Quator if you consider it part of the Old Worlds. But considering we were reading way too much into nothing, good thing I didn't head out into the black following that lead.
So we're looking for systems with interesting, elaborate descriptions, that are in no way reflected in the actual system layout
. Makes me seriously wonder what is actually there to find, if FD never bothered putting in stuff that *should* be there given the in-game descriptions (as we've discussed somewhere before in this thread). At some point in time some-one in the rift will come across a system described as "A rogue AI has made a home of this system. They have developed a highly advanced form of hyperspace travel, and are now in league with the Thargoids." The system will have two rocky planets, a mining station called 'Brookes' landing', will be an anarchy aligned to the Federation, and exploited by Denton Patreus. Mystery solved!Anyway, too much noise and easter eggs and nods to things outside of the game. I'm gonna sign off for now and solve some mysteries IRL. Good luck to all you rifters out there.
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I still feel there's something in Cassiopeia for us to find - Drew specifically pointed us to look into the etymology of the Kahina name, and I don't expect it was so we could simply marvel at his literary skills
OK, so maybe one last thing
. I was reading 'And here the Wheel', and there the Architect is described as someone his people spoke of as "... a god, who knew what was happening before it happened." Bit like a fortuneteller then . And then the fact that Kahina made a tour of the outer gas giants on Sol. Trying to send out a message to the Dark Wheel? "Looking for Neptune and Oberon (>Uranus) here." Probably not ...
I most certainly had "fastest". I'll try "economical" on my way back out of the Rift to see if that makes a difference.
Have more rep to add to your mountain. I did not know Economical Routes would help plotting in sparse areas.
There is a link to the oracle Tiresias though, one of the most important seer/soothsayer in greek mythos.
He is tied to persephone that gave him wisdom and vision after he died. He's visited by Odysseus in the underworld. Still, not usefull to locate anything. :/
Just to clarify: I'm not sure whether it does or not!
It was just an idea I had, but I don't know how the algorithm works, exactly.
Cheers, CMDR Heisenberg6626
I'm leaning towards the former, given this Twitter post by Drew which I just found...
My thinking – as an outsider looking in, really – is this. If there's a system way out there which is roughly on the R-R line, and that's the extent of the puzzle, then that's not the best puzzle (meaning no disrespect)! Its solution would rely on someone stumbling across said system pretty much at random. Which seems unlikely anyway, given the size of the galaxy and the amount of time people have already been at this.
I would now lean towards DrewCarnegie's theory of there being a "trigger task" somewhere in the bubble. (My "FFE" theory was probably misguided; there just isn't anything obvious/notable south-west or even north-east of R-R in FFE.) In Eulexia I seem to have found a system that was likely named by Drew or at least with his input. One possibility could be that – since Eurydice was bitten by a viper – you need to turn up in a Viper (I was there in an Asp Scout) to trigger the task...
But, yeah, here's the thing. Salomé, the Dance of the Seven Veils (there is a Veil Nebula, but I imagine that's been discounted), Dihya/Kahina, Persephone, Avalon, Formidine… There's no obvious connection, besides them all being "old stuff" (not even "legends", since Dihya was a real figure). And the bubble is littered with systems named after ancient mythical locations: Agartha, Asphodel, Cockaigne, Summerland... It goes on and on.
Meanwhile, the creator of this puzzle has said he likes "misdirection" – which unfortunately means that anything related to it (except, perhaps, for "Formidine" referring to fear/dread) could be irrelevant. Or not. And all this is occurring within a game world which is known – perhaps notorious – for containing unresolved mysteries.
So, all things considered, I'd personally be inclined to wait for something more concrete to go on*. There is such a thing as a puzzle which is too vague/too hard. (Of course, saying this, I run the risk of looking an ass when some bright spark figures it out this afternoon, but hey – that's life!)
Having said that, given the size of this thread and the commitment to scouring a vast, ill-defined area which may or may not encompass "the Rift", I feel like someone could post spy shots of a page in Drew's notebook headed "Solution" and it would attract little notice
Eulexia ain't that, but… I dunno. I shall not get sucked into this madness! *Not that there's anything wrong with exploring generally! I intend to head out from the bubble again soonish.
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I did the passage in a 40.5ly anaconda. From 8 to 7 in only 3 jumps, but from going from point 7 to 5 took 16 jumps, regardless of economic/fastest route and doing the hops separately only made it worse.
For the rest, I had fastest route switched on all the time. Generally I saved about 50% on the number of jumps mentioned in the article and most I could take 3, sometimes 4 hops at a time. The MYOIDEAU part was a bit harder than the rest.
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Or another of Drew's pledge rewards.
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Great find on that Twitter post!
Groan... et quelques chars.
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I am afraid I have to point out that this is not true. As someone has already pointed out over at the Discord group, the etymology of the name Kahina has nothing directly to do with the historical fact that there was a 'Berber queen' called Kahina. The etymology points to the linguistic meaning(s) of a name, not its historical bearers.
Thus, the etymology of Kahina does not provide a tangible link to Kassiopeia. The history, so to speak, does, but that's not what Drew pointed out, right?
I'll second that, and etymology is part of my field of studies.
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