My suggestion, stop grinding and start playing. Or is your guildmaster telling you need to gear up for a boss raid? Oh, wait, that's not this game.
The Mining discussion thread.
I do mining at the moment and its totally fine if you find a good planet with metallic rings you are good. I can earn 150-200k/hour avareage with an Adder and I have only 12 cargo space.
Mining is good to help you get from the starter ships (say a sidewinder/hauler) to a better ship (Cobra III for example).
Simply look for a Metallic cluster with Rich or better deposits (pristine being the ideal). You will yield 20%+ gold/plat/palladium from these (2 tonnes per potato peeled).
3 cargo bays / trips and you have your cobra.
After that...from my personal perspective...mining is simply too boring.
Simply look for a Metallic cluster with Rich or better deposits (pristine being the ideal). You will yield 20%+ gold/plat/palladium from these (2 tonnes per potato peeled).
3 cargo bays / trips and you have your cobra.
After that...from my personal perspective...mining is simply too boring.
Forget the clusters thats very slow and boring imo just find a planet with metallic rings with infinite number of possible rock filled with gold platinum palladium. Of course not every rock have that composition but you can boost fast from one to the next so I felt it lot faster and easier.
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I've never played an MMO let alone been in a lame guild.
Poor baby OP....
Thanks for actual helpful information.
Not sure what this post is supposed to mean, cant see any helpful advice though.
It's all in the way you said it. You see, the words you choose when communicating with another person have a large impact on how they take what you said. If you were respectful of him and kept in mind that he is a new player likely feeling overwhelmed and lost within this big sim world, you likely would have used words to reflect this. If you were respectful and actually gave him advice instead of talking about how skilled you are at the game while belittling him, he might have benefitted.
However, by modifying his quote to crying and whining, you showed that you felt contempt for him, and then you bragged abou your own skills, reinforcing the idea that he was doing it wrong without ever actually explaining why. Doing this things makes you sound very condescending and gives the impression that you are quite unpleasant to interact with. If you can improve the way you interact with people who are saying or doing things you don't agree with, you can greatly improve yourself as a person.
I'd recommend googling around and reading up on general conversational etiquette and how tos for interacting with your fellow man. I believe you would benefit greatly from it.
I hate the expression "grind", its a MMO thing, if you have a certain outlook everything in life is a "grind" - going to work is a "grind", driving down the motorway is a "grind", having to get out of bed every morning is a "grind" yeah that's it life is a "grind", so what do we do, we find ways to make it something else. That is the human condition - to make the best of the "grindy" life we have to endure. Sometimes computer games help with the daily "grind" but not if we view the game as a "grind".
So the other ways of playing that you personally are not doing should not be fun?
If trading is boring and low yield, which it is, that is a problem. All careers should be viable and fun. Even if you happen to be doing the one that is viable this week.
The developer had this severe balance problem since mid standard beta. I hope they manage to fix it sometime.
I agree, but I don't hate grinding totally, in fact many ppl enjoy the right amount of grinding when they are not feeling up to Combat because it takes little concentration and they can relax and make money. I set a gaol which I must now modify to fit the new reality.
You cannot make 5 million an hour in this market.
What I have come to realize is that the game hasn't been designed to accommodate anything other than small ships. The best ship in the game is a cobra. Working towards anything higher is a complete waste of time. A fully tricked out cobra runs maybe 7 million. Get your 7 million and forget making credits until there is actually a point to having a medium or larger ship.
Its sad that at 'release,' the best play option for anyone who has their 7 million or so is to come back in a few months or a year when they actually get the game straightened out.
Its sad that at 'release,' the best play option for anyone who has their 7 million or so is to come back in a few months or a year when they actually get the game straightened out.
Sadly I am very drawn to this conclusion myself.
I was of the opinion they launched too early and needed more Gamma time, so perhaps I should give them 6 months more.
When you essentially say "I can't succeed at this, therefore no one can", some other people are bound to reply with "no, it's just you". Can you really complain about that when you state as fact your profit margins are the best achievable for your ship? I mean, everything you just said could be applied to your original post. You are a single case, and yet talk like you know everything. And your defense to people bringing up cases counter to your argument? "You're antagonizing me so I am going to disregard your comments". Granted, many replies were not really constructive, but it takes a little to get a little, you know? I mean, just framing the whole argument in a way that makes it clearer you intend to present a case and an opinion, not a solid fact would certainly make someone more open to helpful and constructive replies.
But I digress. Now, if you are looking for something constructive, I can't actually help that much. I got out of trading around the time the price for a Lakon went up, and the viability of other professions did as well. Still, I don't see trading being that bad, as I can still make a profit in my Eagle on a blind run. It's pennies, and just something to cover the costs of travelling, but if that is doable, I am sure better optimized trade routes exist. You might want to look into the state of rare commodities, and where to find them. I have heard excellent profit margins for those. Also, from my days of trading, I know you really don't want to get sunk into a single trade route. Not only does it make the game extremely routine and grindy, but it also quickly makes you blind to better alternatives. Remember to travel around a lot, keep tabs on places that have high demand or supply of something, so you can come back later if you come across some of that product. Missions might not pay well, but they also get you rep, which in turn gets you more lucrative missions. So take a few missions, and try and figure out what other cargo you can take along with you to better the odds. I mean, you said you were making ballpark of 140k an hour, I have seen a few missions nearly that much for not even half the Type 6's cargo size. You load on the rest of the cargo for the journey, and you probably just made your whole per hour profit in a single run. Plus, I have heard when you get good rep with a faction, they give you discounts on ships and stuff, therefore, missions should also make getting a Type 7 easier as well. Alternatively, you could try your hand at a bit of smuggling. Seems to be as profitable as ever, but quite risky nowadays. One little screw up, and your rep is just ruined, not to mention huge fines. I would probably recommend sticking to independent systems where that isn't too problematic if you try it. It is a risky venture, but it pays well for those who know what to do. Plus, according to Galnet, there seems to be some new ban on the Federation; that has to be profitable smuggling right now. Maybe mix in a little bit of exploring. It won't be worth much along any trade routes, especially not for someone in a Type 6, but it breaks up the monotony a bit and forces you to stay on the move. There also seems to be something going on with a certain Senator Torval taking in slaves to guarantee them the rights of a proper Imperial slave. Haven't made it over there myself, but it sounds like an opportunity for profit.
Lastly, I am going to reiterate it. Don't fall into a simple routine. It will just ruin the whole game for you. I mean, even if you do grid six hours a day for three weeks, what are you going to do with the Type 7, the same exact thing until a Type 9? And then, just be done with the game? Don't focus on just getting to the next rung. Figure out ways to have fun with what you got now. I know that runs a bit counter to the mentality a lot of games have, but it is one you really need to enjoy this one. Be willing to take some risks, and be willing to take a detour for something interesting. It may be have been pointless, or even detrimental, but you might be surprised. This is one game that is really about the journey, not so much where you end up, and the journey rewards those who are receptive, inquisitive, and not afraid to take a risk. It does not reward those who play it safe and fall into a routine that is good enough.
If you have the type 6 you need to be trading. Forget mining. Once yo uhave the type 6 you will earn more trading than is remotely possible mining even on the best ore.
It is possible to find 1 system jumps where you can make 140K one way and 30-100k back. This will net you over a mill an hour. It is extremely boring. It will however give you some rep and let you kit out a cobra or viper with all the best upgrades. What I do is spend one night trading and make 4 or 6 mill. Then I dump that into a new ship for hunting or exploring, and I go out and do that for a while. Maybe take a few missions for my trading station to gan some other types of system faction.
And there you have it. That is all there is in the game right now.
Sure you can do like some folks and build up your own fantasy world around the existing stuff. This is called roleplay and the majority of people dont do it. I'm not here to make up for all the things lacking in the game.
So OP my suggestion to you is play less and play more diverse. Otherwise based on your playstyle you will burn out fast because there just isnt enough here to keep everyone happy.
Also another word of advice. Dont even think about trying to get a type 9 right now. You will lose money every time you take it for a spin. The game is not ready for large ships. Spend time collecting the smaller ships. Kit them out with grade A gear. Spend some time going to see one of the nebula or something. If you get all that done, take a break for a few months and come back when they add features and content.
