The Open Only Incentive

irrational and devoid of logic, you sound like my ex wife.
Twice you've had the opportunity to remark on my idea of a kamikaze kill switch, and twice you've deflected, ♀

Oh, that was an actual proposal?

Sorry, I thought you were having a joke.

You've already got a self-destruct button. You want a big boom that takes everyone else out? Let's give that a miss. Unless the thought of someone doing this repeatedly in a Sidewinder outside of the CG station appeals to you?
 
I dunno....what did I do right so I didn't get mopped the floor with like you did.
Dude, the million dollar question. I arrived at the CG in a Chieftan, Clean, minding my own business and wanting to go about business, 14 deaths later...

Today I returned to the same CG, purchased a sidewinder, first time out DEAD by CMDR Universe himself, starts with a "D". And so it goes. I will remain here and die as many times as is required to highlight this issue, In a sidewinder that'll be 100000 rebuys later. To prove a point you know, the secret handshake, gotta break the brother hood as being competent in a engineered ship doesn't suffice
 
You don't seem new, but seriously what are you expecting?

It's a CG = more pilots in Open in one place
It's a anarchy system = no bounties for killing anyone, except maybe security - who won't show up if you are attacked

Can you explain?
 
You know, I was thinking - all of us with crappy bandwidth SHOULD play in Open, hanging out where the griefers gather. You want to see true griefing? Welcome to rubber-band hell!
 
Came to this thread titled "Open Only Incentive" expecting a suggestion which totally wouldn't make me go to open.

Got exactly what I expected.

A+++ would be unsurprised again.

(PS: I'd come to Open, if there were no people in Open ;) )
 
Last edited:
You don't seem new, but seriously what are you expecting?
Are you implying that Open is for Gwankers only, and that if one is of a lessor rank "Don't Go Open"...
It's a CG = more pilots in Open in one place
It's a anarchy system = no bounties for killing anyone, except maybe security - who won't show up if you are attacked

Can you explain?
yes I can explain.
1). Why were the Gwankers not attacking each other, and why only ships not of equal rank ?. (cowards ?).
2). No obvious criteria for attacking, big gazoomies perhaps, to many modules, to many canons, who knows.

From a highly engineered Chieftan to a basic Sidewinder, same response, it must be my BO.
 
Last edited:
I advocate "Play in whatever mode you want, but if you choose Open equip for it and manage your expectation".

I'm no a PvPer but play only in Open - the only reason I would attend such a CG is to show off my skills in getting past anyone who thinks they would be able to stop me. That's a realistic expectation. In practice? Who knows. At the moment I'm in a fairly basic Sidey so I probably wouldn't even try (indeed I'm not sure I could even jump there).

What was your expectation?

In answer to your questions:-

1. The best time to attack someone is when you have a 3 to 1 advantage or better. Sun Tzu said that and he invented fighting. So whilst it might be cowardly, really it just shows an efficient use of your ship to get the result you want.

2. It's an anarchy, you don't need a reason. Why do anything?
 
1. The best time to attack someone is when you have a 3 to 1 advantage or better
You're right, I was killed by winged Gwankers asap at the CG, but I doubt either would have the temerity to face me Solo. Most of the Gwankers are solo artists, My point is that its easy to kill a lessor opponent so why do it.

2. It's an anarchy, you don't need a reason.
Then why don't they attack each other which they never do, it reeks of cowardice.
 
You don't seem new, but seriously what are you expecting?

It's a CG = more pilots in Open in one place
It's a anarchy system = no bounties for killing anyone, except maybe security - who won't show up if you are attacked
It's a pair of competing warzone CGs, at that. "I'm fighting in a system-wide civil war and other people are trying to kill me, something should be done about it"
 
It's a pair of competing warzone CGs, at that. "I'm fighting in a system-wide civil war and other people are trying to kill me, something should be done about it"
really, how dangerous is a sidewinder at the orbital station. I was killed 14 times within 7 clicks of the orbital station dude, not at the war zone, and not affiliated with anyone.
 
Last edited:
really, how dangerous is a sidewinder at the orbital station. I was killed 14 times within 7 clicks of the orbital station dude, not at the war zone, and not affiliated with anyone.

You are either just trolling the thread or you have forgotten your medication.

CG + Open + Anarchy System = lots of kiddies shooting the jobbie out of everything (plus the weekend and school half-term means lots of them).

(They are not shooting each other 'cos they are mates, in that they have a common purpose in killing everything and anything but with a preference for hollow icons.)
 
Don't misquote me, thanks. I was killed 14 times yesterday at the CG, its the pointlessness of it all. I have enough money for 2500 rebuys at 6 million a pop but its not the money, whats the point of killing me 14 times, I have no idea what set them off. (I'm back there today to prove a point), I really want to see how many times the Gank.

I'm starting to get the gist of the Gwanker community, its a club, a group with "jack the ripper" morals and a secret handshake, if you don't know what the handshake is, "bang bang you're dead", great song that.

The Gwankers regard PvP as THEIR open PRIVATE domain and woe betide anyone who transgresses without the secret handshake. I agree with the OP who posted earlier hinting at a Kamikaze kill switch, F-Dev give me the option of turning my ship into a giant FSD enhanced frag bomb that kills anything in a 4km radius, heck if I'm going to get needlessly killed I'd like to go out with a bang.


Where did I misquote you? I have TWO quotes, one if CLEARLY labelled from being a quote by you, the second quote is NOT stated to be quoting you. in fact, I did not even tell the source of that quote.

I could be more clear in that regard of the source of the quote.



You are showing lack of another term, OP, it is not used for "any" poster in this thread, it stands for "original poster", meaning the persons making the initial post in this thread.


I do not understand where you came up with the term gwanker or what you mean by using that.
 
Last edited:
Dude, the million dollar question. I arrived at the CG in a Chieftan, Clean, minding my own business and wanting to go about business, 14 deaths later...

Today I returned to the same CG, purchased a sidewinder, first time out DEAD by CMDR Universe himself, starts with a "D". And so it goes. I will remain here and die as many times as is required to highlight this issue, In a sidewinder that'll be 100000 rebuys later. To prove a point you know, the secret handshake, gotta break the brother hood as being competent in a engineered ship doesn't suffice

Well, you are for sure not competent at figuring out when you need to give up. An engineered ship will still blow up quick if you don't know how to fly it.
Don't just expect to show up among a bunch of guys that been doing this for years and be just as good as them. There's 400 billion other star systems for you to practice in and meditate on common sense.

You go to the open CG when you are ready for it.
 
Last edited:
I'm guessing that perhaps english isn't your native language?

What people are telling you is that in your post/rant, you were replying to Han Zulu, someone who DOES NOT kill other players, and is strongly against "ganking".
Actually, almost right. I'm not against griefing per se. I consider it a valid way of playing in Open, even though I don't engage in it myself. It's a valid play even if it's a bit cowardly. Griefers/gankers are like the reavers in Serenity (Firefly). So in simple words, I don't like them, I don't do it, but I accept their existence.

What needs to happen is rather that FDev started to work on ways of making it easier to be a good cop in Elite and actually be able to find and take action against them. Like, 1) Have a "Police Force" flag in squadron setup, 2) someone with notoriety (killed non-bounty players) are blocked from Solo and PG mode, has to play in Open, 3) instancing try to place them in police force squadrons.
 
Last edited:
Get off your high horse and stop White Knighting, if they wanted a apology from me they would've asked me, besides, banter amongst men requires no apology, banter is a form of wit which allows pride and passion to retain their place without humiliating the opponent.
No worries. I'm not going to ask for an apology. Instead, I'd like to reach out an arm to friendship. If you're on PC, you can find me as Han Ka Solo or Han Zulu V. Send a friendship request and I'll accept. :)

Back on topic : does anyone know what the secret handshake is to join the Gwanker community, and what of the Kamikaze kill switch :))
I heard the only requirement is pink hair and ugly mascara, no handshake required.
 
Don't just expect to show up among a bunch of guys that been doing this for years and be just as good as them. There's 400 billion other star systems for you to practice in and meditate on common sense.

You go to the open CG when you are ready for it.
So, you guys obviously haven't read my posts, You give the impression that Open is for a select few, its their domain, you have to be ready, what exactly does that mean "if you are ready". how ready does one have to be ?.. If one shouldn't venture into open then there should be a big red banner attached to open. Only For Gwankers and those who are ready. those with B.O. should not venture into this void.
 
So, you guys obviously haven't read my posts, You give the impression that Open is for a select few, its their domain, you have to be ready, what exactly does that mean "if you are ready". how ready does one have to be ?.. If one shouldn't venture into open then there should be a big red banner attached to open. Only For Gwankers and those who are ready. those with B.O. should not venture into this void.
Open is the domain of any game play allowed. That's the way Frontier has made it. Open should be marked red and have a warning before you start it (I think it now says something next to the option). The first time I was griefed, I was upset like you, but I got over it and accepted it. That's what Open is. After that, I've played in Open many times, and been killed two, three times after, but most of the time, most players aren't griefers. I don't fly without rebuy, and if I get killed, its' que sera sera. Not the end of the world.
 
So, you guys obviously haven't read my posts, You give the impression that Open is for a select few, its their domain, you have to be ready, what exactly does that mean "if you are ready". how ready does one have to be ?.. If one shouldn't venture into open then there should be a big red banner attached to open. Only For Gwankers and those who are ready. those with B.O. should not venture into this void.

Well, you obviously decided to die some extra 13 times to find that out. You still had the option to change to solo anytime you wished, or go and do something else, etc.
And why not look up some of the players on this forum, that is for PvP, where they meet up, share their knowledge, and have fun shooting at each others, if that is what you are after. There are other players out there that wants todo co-op things. meet up and do some stuff together.


Instead of trying to alienate yourself with such groups, why not try to make friends instead? There are many friendly players in Elite... but the game world is huge, so running into these by pure chance is very unlikely, and many times when moving around, jumping through systems, it is very easy to miss a friendly hello here and there.
 
Back
Top Bottom