Trying same with rather more gankable ship produces very different result.
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But well somehow those pilots just want a "challenge" Something like Asp Explorer without much engineering gives it...
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Not sure I agree with that reasoning. The whole premise is that PvPers seek the human challenge, yet
I have more respect for gankers standing by what they do - shoot everything that moves because they can, the easier the better - than PvPers claiming to just follow the flock because there are people to shoot, while still trying to uphold the tale of the "human challenge". If you really want proper PvP, make some effort. You know... as every other player group does when they want to play together (not you personally of course - the proverbial you).
And yes, I realize that there is a gradient between PvPer and ganker. But I am very sick of the "I want the human challenge" - "shoots the newbie" meme.
Sure, if you ignore the words of the devs during the Livestream when they introduced powerplay.
I have a question for you. A powerplay pledged player wants to fight players of the opposing powers, not just for friendly 1v1s, but to actually oppose the other power. What do you think they should do?
Actions speak louder than words. Even if there was the notion of Elite being a PvP game in the live stream above - I wouldn't know, and I am not going to watch 100 minutes of a nine year old stream to find out - it should be clear by now ( nine years later) that, as a whole, this isn't a PvP game. Not even PvP focused. PvP is possible, but very optional. And it seems, the way the PP revamp went, it's going to stay that way.
It's time stamped directly to the relevant part. The rest of your rant is nonsense.
Go to rivaling powers' headquarters and hotspots, hope and pray that you meet someone you can directly oppose and be aware that direct PvP is the least efficient way to do Power Play and generally a waste of time. You're surely not going to further your power's goals by shooting newbies in a system two or even three PP territories across the bubble.
And possibly unpledge from the pirate lord and go to their territory, because those are the most likely to fulfil the dream of direct PvP PP. If all the direct PvP power players do the "yarrr", I can see why PvP power play is starving.
how is it nonsense that, despite all that moaning, ranting and pledging over nine years, OOPP still hasn't happened? But way to stray from a civilised argument to name calling. Makes your line of arguing so much more intriguing.
So you recommend to not even bother with PVP, and go where the players are. Brilliant, you just explained why gankers sit in the hotspots.
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Of course it offers those so inclined opportunities to engage in PvP if the meet player opposition. It isn't, however, a feature that ever requires players to engage in PvP if they don't want to while engaging in it, and never has been.
I never name called. I said your rant is nonsense. Your going on and on and on about the game not being something that the game very clearly is. It's not a good version of a PVP game, but it is still a PVP game.
Attacking those who really cannot fight back or escape. Being REAL HEROES.
it's not rocket science why gankers go to hotspots. I thought this whole line of arguments was about "PvPers" and power play, not ganking.
Still shadow boxing I see. But yes, they're doing the only thing the game reasonably offers them in the activity they want to do.
The line of reasoning explains why powerplay needs to the PVP feature, because without it, all that's left is what all of you are so very clearly not okay with lol
I never made that argument. Was just correcting inaccurate information.
Why those real heroes don't attack any capable opponent? Meaning those that can leave when they want or fight back with reasonable chance of winning.
Or that activity they want to do more like ruining other peoples game sessions, or winning everytime?
They do. Check YouTube, look in the discords, tons of videos being posted all the time of them vs capable opponents. But what also.happens is they get bored and quit playing, which is more money FDEV isn't getting .
I am afraid you're going to have to live with that misconception for a while.
Hot take: I'm actually okay with honest gankers these days, I have accepted it as part of the game even if I dislike it. I'm less okay with PvPer hipocrisy. Apart from that, my opinion will still be: If you want PvP, make it happen. Make an effort, as every other player group has to.