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The Planetary landing and planetside missions discussion Thread
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In frontier you could land anywhere on any solid planet or moon. I would expect the same here.
Procedural generation will allow the game to generate as many landscapes as the devs want, possibly for every planet (that's the objective anyway), in the same way that the planet textures are generated now for all of them. It will "simply" be much more detailed and with geometry (hills, mountains, what have you).
Yes... So the only real question is the most important one, what will you be able to do there (of interest)?
Why do you assume that "looking around" will be the only thing you'll be able to do?
Because people are quick to talk about the "excitement" of planetary landings and walking around planets & ships, but very very slow (or don't at all) mention about any game play/mechanics/entertainment reason for doing it.
The former is the easy bit. The latter is the hard bit.
Forget the "walking around" stuff. I bought a space game (I less and less like to call ED a successor to Elite/Frontier TBH), not an ego shooter. I don't need to leave my ship. I enter the atmosphere, fly across the planet landscape and settle down at a point that looks suitable for a landing. Then I dump my mining machine. Then I head off and come back to collect later. Unless I misjudged the planet's gravity vs. the strength of my engines. There is nothing else that needs to be done on planets outside the spaceports.
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Yeah, that kind of planet landing is for you 'pilot chair cowboys'....I want to get missions from the local populace, (all kinds). Sure, do some mining; perhaps raw ore to supply a mfger. for an NPC store front dealing in collectibles and Jewelry. Get hints/directions from Npc characters on locations (local/onplanet, and distant/deepspace), where I could find a precious item or wonderous rumored equipment. Find bandits or a notorious criminal. Walk or other type travel to a distant shore, watch multiple sun sunsets, and to do some great fishing, for on planet or off planet sale. Even on the populated planets, and of course stations, perhaps purchasing a custom 'bobblehead'. The same of course goes for DB's often quoted large animal hunts....So many possibilities.
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I hope it's not limited to certain planets. The major leap forward needs to be all the planets. If it's procedurally generated, why not?
It's not the half baked approach that SC is taking. I'm sure there planets will be limited, there galaxy is so much smaller though.
No, imho it needs to be all the planets out there. This is where Elite leaves all it's competitors quite literally in the dust, for real!
However keep in minds, attempted landings on many planets would mean certain death, for one reason or another. physical reasons, or indigenous life.
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What I'd like to see...
Supercruise exit to planet being the point at which the transition happens, so you exit at the point where SC would normally kick you out of ftl but instead of an emergency stop you keep going.
Mining machines like the MB-4
Some way of protecting any persistent assets you might have on a planet
Planetside starports like in Frontier and FFE
Expensive atmospheric shielding for big cargo ships
Gravity and drag
No making it too easy because people whine about trying to land a thousand tonne metal brick on a planetary body.
Supercruise exit to planet being the point at which the transition happens, so you exit at the point where SC would normally kick you out of ftl but instead of an emergency stop you keep going.
Mining machines like the MB-4
Some way of protecting any persistent assets you might have on a planet
Planetside starports like in Frontier and FFE
Expensive atmospheric shielding for big cargo ships
Gravity and drag
No making it too easy because people whine about trying to land a thousand tonne metal brick on a planetary body.
Being able to use the ship underwater on water worlds would be awesome
Not to sound harsh, but of all the possibilities, game mechanics and depth planetary landings could open up, you propose a mining machine? Surely things like this are right down the list, with far more interesting/fundamental things well above it?
To be honest if you use procedural generation, the hardest place to have for planetary landings would be in Sol as I assume if you left it to just procedural generation, then the terrain would not be true to life.
For every other system the terrain can be whatever we want it to be as long as it looks realistic, as we have not been able with our tech to send something to map out bodies outside our solar system.
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Planetary Landings
Do you think this is what it might look like when we have the ability to land on populated planets?:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-d2-PtK4F6Y
Do you think this is what it might look like when we have the ability to land on populated planets?:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-d2-PtK4F6Y
Only because it was a nice feature in the last two games
It has to be true to what it might be in 1300 years. Not true to life.
I don't think that there will be problems, although I'm sure that making this will be a significant task. Planets and systems are already made with mix of procedural generation and dev-intervention, I don't see why this couldn't be extended to planet surfaces in principle.
Cool video! it might look something like that, although just from a distance. I think you'd lose detail on buildings an stuff as you get in a little closer with that kind of method.
Check out Outerra, www.outerra.com I'm hoping the planetary landings will look something like that!
Check out Outerra, www.outerra.com I'm hoping the planetary landings will look something like that!
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I have no doubt that Frontier will create something fantastic