The Quest To Find Raxxla

[Jorki Rasalas]

Thread is getting a bit hijacked by the ol' Rifters it seems?

Well, considering the lack of any sane leads left to follow, I guess it's acceptable trying to squeeze anything out of any piece of.. anything. On this thread I've read some brilliant speculations, some fantastic theorycrafting and absolute mad tinfoilery and frankly enjoyed them all. Guessing FD wont come up and say "the chase for Raxxla was all about this enjoyment of the ride" at some point, I'm trying to foresee what would FD want to read in those (hired or voluntarily made) gaming articles about "Mystery of 34 years solved", "Years of search from players bore fruit" etc. when(if) this thing settles. I am of the opinion that, they would rather want to read about some in-game developments of events and in-game merging of data to achieve something accompanied by some progress that could be called "in-game personal narrative" for someone or some people, instead of reading about how players stalked D.B. for two weeks day and night, broke into his house and read through his diaries and data mined all older elite games or threatened to spill excessive salt into a devs meal to merge together some numbers that got run through some decoding softwares to figure out something in the end. Which also for that reason I don't really believe brute forcing it by running around the galaxy is an intended outcome and it won't really work, assuming it's a mostly aimless brute forcing attempt.

But then again, we are currently lacking leads to follow and as we all know, this is FD, known for it's unorthodox approaches to such issues and thus anything might happen. So don't let me keep you from going all nuts out there folks. I am all fine with all approaches up to secretly and closely examining D.B.'s pair of favourite socks for possible hidden clues about Raxxla. Just nothing further than that, though.

Old Rifters are like unwanted relatives, we never go away!

but we always argued that FR and Raxxla were likely to be entirely separate things. It was always unlikely that DB & MB would site the FRift mystery anywhere near Raxxla since it might then be inadvertently found by someone searching for the other mystery.

 

[[Diplomacy] Carnegie]

We have an axe-wielding penguin that regularly goes through DBOBE's trash. Alas, no hints regarding Raxxla ...

Oh! Wait!
Was I supposed to be looking for Raxxla hints?
I was just having fun!

 

[[Diplomacy] Carnegie]

Old Rifters are like unwanted relatives, we never go away!

but we always argued that FR and Raxxla were likely to be entirely separate things. It was always unlikely that DB & MB would site the FRift mystery anywhere near Raxxla since it might then be inadvertently found by someone searching for the other mystery.

I'd LOVE to be able to constructively engage with the Raxxla mystery, but the information we have is so sparse that there isn't any angle that I can get my beak into.

 

[Dziondziak]

Someone in a facebook group I am in wrote that FD has confirmed that the system Raxxla is in has been honked.
I assume this is bologna?

I also remember hearing that a more recent interview with a dev eluded to saying we will know we have found raxxla when we find it. anyone got a link to that?

 

[micky1984]

its been honked but did the pilot check his system map is the question !

 

[[Diplomacy] Carnegie]

its been honked but did the pilot check his system map is the question !

I see 3 possibilities here:

1. It was passed through (not honked) by someone buckyballing to someplace else
2. Raxxla isn't an ELW
3. Raxxla is an ELW, but a significant distance (eg > 200kLs) from the main star

 

[Hanerib]

...FD has confirmed that the system Raxxla is in has been honked.

I have heard this too, but haven't seen the source. Must have been some Twitch stream. Story also tells it was supposed to be a system you could do fuel scooping. When thinking about probabilities, it would have been somewhere with more traffic.. than less. Too much traffic and it would have been found 4 years ago. Less than 1k Ly from the bubble has many untagged planets, but not many unvisited systems I believe. Less than 300 Ly from Colonia has unvisited systems too I believe, since I found an ELW in that radius a few months back. Paths to Colonia, Sag A*, Formidine Rift and Beagle Point are well visited, deviate a little and they are less. Various far-away sights are well tagged, surroundings vary. 5000 Ly from the bubble somewhere? 100Ly from some far-away nebula?

Also this rumour sounds a bit silly and I don't quite believe it.

 

[Jaiotu]

Also this rumour sounds a bit silly and I don't quite believe it.

As with almost any claim regarding solid info regarding Raxxla ... I consider it entirely apocryphal until I've had the opportunity to review the original source myself.

If Frontier has confirmed that Raxxla "has been honked" then we need to see the original source. To continue to discuss this rumour further with zero evidence is counter productive.

 

[Trickylion]

I found it, but it slipped through my fingers.
Wait a minute that was the Liverpool goalkeeper....

 

[Macros Black]

Personally I have honked Shinrarta Dezhra many times.

 

[Scytale]

The Rift ending was simply pathetic. Raxxla turning out to be in SD would be ... well... better I let it down.

 

[HunterwithGreenScales]

Raxxla isn't in the bubble. I'm very sure we can eliminate that theory. Soontill, within the lore at one time, was also a mysterious/mythical planet only previously known about at all, due to translations of private recording of the first, non-violent communications with Thargoids. It was able to avoid being discovered for so long while being so close to the bubble, because:1). It was a dark/uninteresting (except for the planet itself) system just outside the bubbles old world's frontier. And 2.) Once it was found by the CIEP, they further kept it secret (with advanced Thargoid tech) as newer hyperspace technology became available to common explorers. Even despite this, its discovery and reveling to the public was inevitable due to its close proximity.
Raxxla must be much further away from the bubble (and possibly similarly guarded) to have remained undiscovered, by Lore and Player CMDRs alike, for this long. THAT, or there is a flip-side/upside down version of the Galaxy within Hyperspace, and one of the Bubble's many "discovered" worlds is actually Raxxla within there.

 

[Jaiotu]

Raxxla isn't in the bubble. I'm very sure we can eliminate that theory.

I don't think anyone can eliminate that theory. There are some very good reasons why Raxxla could be in the bubble and still be a kept secret. In many ways Raxxla hiding right under our noses makes more sense then it being some random dot out among the billions of stars far from home. According to lore the new Frame Shift Drive which only became available a few years prior to 3300 ushered in an unprecedented period galactic exploration. A mission like the Zurara's into the Formidine Rift was a major undertaking whereas today's explorers jaunt all the way to Beagle Point for holiday. At the time that Raxxla entered the lexicon those kinds of trips were simply impossible. Hyperspace was strictly regulated to the domain of Faraway.

"Jump on your own through hyperspace, across more than half a light year, and you'll be lucky to make the same Universe, let alone your destination.
You might emerge from Witch-Space turned inside out (which is not a pretty sight).
You might be stretched in all the wrong angles, and although the ship keeps travelling, that jelly mass of broken bone and flesh inside the cabin is you."
-The Dark Wheel by Robert Holdstock

 

[Scytale]

I would distinguish the Elite: Dangerous Raxxla from the Elite Raxxla, Doc. Time passed and our rigs and game capabilities evolved. Not sure all the "ancient lore" is still valid. After all, the major feature of this game is the MW. (Did I say Milky Way, Mr Brookes ?)
And imho, we should stick to what this game tells us (as long as we are not sure that FD creative "storyliners" are completely inconsistent with themselves...)
Raxxla Quest can't be brute forced (the raison d'être of the Elite/Founders missions). It would be to much a shame, even for FD.
The thing is...MB quit E: D and the E/F missions stopped and afaik the SAP 8 Core disappeared too. I know DB is the (step-)'father' of Raxxla, but MB was the 'nanny'. He was who gets the work done.
And since 2.4 it isn't. Not even botched like the RF mYsTeRy turning out.

 

[JulesD]

Is the general assumption that Raxxla can be found by just jumping to the correct system and searching around a bit and there it is, something with a big Raxxla sticker on it?
I feel it should be more like a multiple attainment discovery; become elite, visit x, find y, do z.... (as in a personal journey) which eventualy unlocks Raxxla. In which case it can be anywhere and visited all the time by many cmdrs, just not revealed as Raxxla.
Personally, I really hope FD have made finding Raxxla a homage to Robert Holdstock, without whom we wouldn't have Raxxla at all. As such I'm off to visit all the systems with stations which include Holdstock in the name.

 

[Jaiotu]

And imho, we should stick to what this game tells us

If we follow this advice and only stick to what this game tells us then we might as well give up now. This game tells us nothing about Raxxla. Neither did Frontier Elite 2 or Frontier First Encounters. Without the original game's inclusion of The Dark Wheel novella there is precious little to suggest the existence of Raxxla or why it should be worth finding. Even the old "Dark Wheel Missions" have nothing to them to suggest a connection to Raxxla ... unless you import the knowledge of Raxxla gained from reading The Dark Wheel and can therefore make the connection.

No. No. I don't think the advice of sticking to what this game tells us about this particular matter is very helpful at all.

 

[JulesD]

If we follow this advice and only stick to what this game tells us then we might as well give up now. This game tells us nothing about Raxxla. Neither did Frontier Elite 2 or Frontier First Encounters. Without the original game and The Dark Wheel novella there is precious little to suggest the existence of Raxxla or why it should be worth finding. Even the old "Dark Wheel Missions" have nothing to them to suggest a connection to Raxxla ... unless you import the knowledge of Raxxla gained from reading The Dark Wheel and can therefore make the connection.

No. No. I don't think the advice of sticking to what this game tells us about this particular matter is very helpful at all.

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I will second that opinion
Raxxla only exists because of The Dark Wheel novella.

 

[Jaiotu]

I really hope FD have made finding Raxxla a homage to Robert Holdstock, without whom we wouldn't have Raxxla at all. As such I'm off to visit all the systems with stations which include Holdstock in the name.

This is my hope as well. While I haven't taken to visiting stations named for Holdstock I have been reading some of his old books and stories in hopes of finding something interesting that might a parallel somewhere in the game. Nothing as of yet to report on that front (aside from Raxxla's inclusion in The Alien World of course).

 

[rOmiLaYu]

Any news from CMDR Reddit, or did their secret really die with him?

 

[Scytale]

No. No. I don't think the advice of sticking to what this game tells us about this particular matter is very helpful at all.

It's just almost the entire point of the FP of this thread (great work again, Macros !). And.. well...just read my sig. If you can sort out any other little bit obvious thing besides the Dark Wheel faction in E: D...
But I repeat the quest may currently be stopped as I said.

Even the old "Dark Wheel Missions" have nothing to them to suggest a connection to Raxxla

You put The Dark Wheel and Raxxla in the same sentence and then you say it doesn't suggest any connection between them, Doc ?
And what about ... a certain celestial body. The Myth. ? Soontill ? Cirag ? But not Raxxla ? (Cass A ? )

Raxxla only exists because of The Dark Wheel novella.

So, as The Dark Wheel exist in ED then Raxxla exists in ED too and they are related. Thank you.

Without the original game's inclusion of The Dark Wheel novella there is precious little to suggest the existence of Raxxla or why it should be worth finding

Don't forget MB said '..the sequel will be played out in this game'. Which, imho, is quite precious much ....

Raxxla isn't in the bubble. I'm very sure we can eliminate that theory.

Without saying Raxxla must be there, the rim of the Bubble may have some clues. A certain pattern in the E/F missions seems to point there. But I wont enlarge my text wall anymore. If anyone is interested, PM me.