The Quest To Find Raxxla

Pyroboros · Feb 2, 2022

Adel said:
I try to understand since an hour how to enter in a comet signal but can't understand (your link is about how to crash galmap).

YesYes GalMap. u can Seach for stuff in Galmap this includes everything that has an 64bit ID. Stations, Planets, ... . You just need to find the right way to put that seach string together. Basicly Overflowing the SystemID so that its mostsignificant bits go in the BodyID part. Depending on the Layer (MassCode) there is a difference. The GalMap (if a lookup gives no result) the search will trys to convert the input string in an 64bit number and then asks Stellarforge if a system body ... whit this nummber exists or not and if so it will show u in which system.
If u happen to be in that system already... it will pop up a marker like for an Signalsource, at the lokation were the thing whit that ID should be.

CMDR Davanix · Feb 2, 2022

electro said:
I have started to come the conclusion that it must be somewhere in sol. Since its allowed only for elite cmdrs. But find a moon or a portal thats small far from sol its hard. I have tried many times in sol.

Sol is not only allowed for Elite CMDRS you could be a middle rank and get the permit as it is the Federation that give it, I think you mean the Founders system Shinrarta

Pyroboros · Feb 2, 2022

SOL: 10477373803	GalMap Seachbar (ID*2^20 + 0)
0	Wregoe AC-D d12-0	Sol	Star
1	Wregoe AC-D d12-1048576	Mercury	Planet
2	Wregoe AC-D d12-2097152	Venus	Planet
3	Wregoe AC-D d12-3145728	Earth	Planet
4	Wregoe AC-D d12-4194304	Moon	Planet
5	Wregoe AC-D d12-5242880	Mars	Planet
6	Wregoe AC-D d12-6291456	Asteroid Belt	Sol Belt "nonBoby"
7	Wregoe AC-D d12-7340032	Jupiter	Planet
8	Wregoe AC-D d12-8388608	Jupiter Halo Ring	Jupiter Ring "nonBoby"
9	Wregoe AC-D d12-9437184	Io	Moon
10	Wregoe AC-D d12-10485760	Europa	Moon
11	Wregoe AC-D d12-11534336	Ganymede	Moon
12	Wregoe AC-D d12-12582912	Callisto	Moon
13	Wregoe AC-D d12-13631488	Saturn	Planet
14	Wregoe AC-D d12-14680064	D Ring	Saturn Ring "nonBoby"
15	Wregoe AC-D d12-15728640	Enceladus	Moon
16	Wregoe AC-D d12-16777216	Tethys	Moon
17	Wregoe AC-D d12-17825792	Dione	Moon
18	Wregoe AC-D d12-18874368	Rhea	Moon
19	Wregoe AC-D d12-19922944	Titan	Moon
20	Wregoe AC-D d12-20971520	Iapetus	Moon
21	Wregoe AC-D d12-22020096	Halle's Comet	not in Game "nonBoby" may not even counted in nonBodyCount
22	Wregoe AC-D d12-23068672	Uranus	Planet
23	Wregoe AC-D d12-24117248	ZetaCC Ring	Uranus Ring "nonBoby"
24	Wregoe AC-D d12-25165824	Ariel	Moon
25	Wregoe AC-D d12-26214400	Umbriel	Moon
26	Wregoe AC-D d12-27262976	Titania	Moon
27	Wregoe AC-D d12-28311552	Oberon	Moon
28	Wregoe AC-D d12-29360128	Neptune	Moon
29	Wregoe AC-D d12-30408704	Galle Ring	Neptunes Ring "nonBody"
30	Wregoe AC-D d12-31457280	Triton	Moon
31	Wregoe AC-D d12-32505856	Sol 9+10	BaryCenter Pluto & Charon "nonBoby"
32	Wregoe AC-D d12-33554432	Pluto	Draft
33	Wregoe AC-D d12-34603008	Charon	Draft
34	Wregoe AC-D d12-35651584	90482 Orcus	Draft
35	Wregoe AC-D d12-36700160	Vanth	Draft
36	Wregoe AC-D d12-37748736	(307261) 2002 MS4	Draft
37	Wregoe AC-D d12-38797312	Salacia	Draft
38	Wregoe AC-D d12-39845888	Actaea	Draft
39	Wregoe AC-D d12-40894464	Haumea	Draft
40	Wregoe AC-D d12-41943040	Hi'iaka	Draft
41	Wregoe AC-D d12-42991616	Quaoar	Draft
42	Wregoe AC-D d12-44040192	Makemake	Draft
43	Wregoe AC-D d12-45088768	(225088) 2007 OR10	Draft
44	Wregoe AC-D d12-46137344	Eris	Draft
45	Wregoe AC-D d12-47185920	Sedna	Draft
46	Wregoe AC-D d12-48234496	Persephone	Draft
47	Wregoe AC-D d12-49283072	"Daedalus"	Station "nonBoby"
48	Wregoe AC-D d12-50331648	"Burnell Station"	Station "nonBoby"
49	Wregoe AC-D d12-51380224	"Abraham Lincoln"	Station "nonBoby"
50	Wregoe AC-D d12-52428800	"Li Qing Jao"	Station "nonBoby"
51	Wregoe AC-D d12-53477376	"M.Gorbachev"	Station "nonBoby"
52	Wregoe AC-D d12-54525952	"Galileo"	Station "nonBoby"
53	Wregoe AC-D d12-55574528	"Mars High"	Station "nonBoby"
54	Wregoe AC-D d12-56623104	"Columbus"	Station "nonBoby"
55	Wregoe AC-D d12-57671680	"Titan City"	Station "nonBoby"
56	Wregoe AC-D d12-58720256	GameCrash	from here the game will Crash when trying to target.

electro · Feb 3, 2022

CMDR Davanix said:
Sol is not only allowed for Elite CMDRS you could be a middle rank and get the permit as it is the Federation that give it, I think you mean the Founders system Shinrarta

Ok.. thanks.. that cleared it up

Han_Zen · Feb 3, 2022

Pyroboros said:
SOL: 10477373803 GalMap Seachbar (ID*2^20 + 0)
0 Wregoe AC-D d12-0 Sol Star
1 Wregoe AC-D d12-1048576 Mercury Planet
2 Wregoe AC-D d12-2097152 Venus Planet
3 Wregoe AC-D d12-3145728 Earth Planet
4 Wregoe AC-D d12-4194304 Moon Planet
5 Wregoe AC-D d12-5242880 Mars Planet
6 Wregoe AC-D d12-6291456 Asteroid Belt Sol Belt "nonBoby"
7 Wregoe AC-D d12-7340032 Jupiter Planet
8 Wregoe AC-D d12-8388608 Jupiter Halo Ring Jupiter Ring "nonBoby"
9 Wregoe AC-D d12-9437184 Io Moon
10 Wregoe AC-D d12-10485760 Europa Moon
11 Wregoe AC-D d12-11534336 Ganymede Moon
12 Wregoe AC-D d12-12582912 Callisto Moon
13 Wregoe AC-D d12-13631488 Saturn Planet
14 Wregoe AC-D d12-14680064 D Ring Saturn Ring "nonBoby"
15 Wregoe AC-D d12-15728640 Enceladus Moon
16 Wregoe AC-D d12-16777216 Tethys Moon
17 Wregoe AC-D d12-17825792 Dione Moon
18 Wregoe AC-D d12-18874368 Rhea Moon
19 Wregoe AC-D d12-19922944 Titan Moon
20 Wregoe AC-D d12-20971520 Iapetus Moon
21 Wregoe AC-D d12-22020096 Halle's Comet not in Game "nonBoby" may not even counted in nonBodyCount
22 Wregoe AC-D d12-23068672 Uranus Planet
23 Wregoe AC-D d12-24117248 ZetaCC Ring Uranus Ring "nonBoby"
24 Wregoe AC-D d12-25165824 Ariel Moon
25 Wregoe AC-D d12-26214400 Umbriel Moon
26 Wregoe AC-D d12-27262976 Titania Moon
27 Wregoe AC-D d12-28311552 Oberon Moon
28 Wregoe AC-D d12-29360128 Neptune Moon
29 Wregoe AC-D d12-30408704 Galle Ring Neptunes Ring "nonBody"
30 Wregoe AC-D d12-31457280 Triton Moon
31 Wregoe AC-D d12-32505856 Sol 9+10 BaryCenter Pluto & Charon "nonBoby"
32 Wregoe AC-D d12-33554432 Pluto Draft
33 Wregoe AC-D d12-34603008 Charon Draft
34 Wregoe AC-D d12-35651584 90482 Orcus Draft
35 Wregoe AC-D d12-36700160 Vanth Draft
36 Wregoe AC-D d12-37748736 (307261) 2002 MS4 Draft
37 Wregoe AC-D d12-38797312 Salacia Draft
38 Wregoe AC-D d12-39845888 Actaea Draft
39 Wregoe AC-D d12-40894464 Haumea Draft
40 Wregoe AC-D d12-41943040 Hi'iaka Draft
41 Wregoe AC-D d12-42991616 Quaoar Draft
42 Wregoe AC-D d12-44040192 Makemake Draft
43 Wregoe AC-D d12-45088768 (225088) 2007 OR10 Draft
44 Wregoe AC-D d12-46137344 Eris Draft
45 Wregoe AC-D d12-47185920 Sedna Draft
46 Wregoe AC-D d12-48234496 Persephone Draft
47 Wregoe AC-D d12-49283072 "Daedalus" Station "nonBoby"
48 Wregoe AC-D d12-50331648 "Burnell Station" Station "nonBoby"
49 Wregoe AC-D d12-51380224 "Abraham Lincoln" Station "nonBoby"
50 Wregoe AC-D d12-52428800 "Li Qing Jao" Station "nonBoby"
51 Wregoe AC-D d12-53477376 "M.Gorbachev" Station "nonBoby"
52 Wregoe AC-D d12-54525952 "Galileo" Station "nonBoby"
53 Wregoe AC-D d12-55574528 "Mars High" Station "nonBoby"
54 Wregoe AC-D d12-56623104 "Columbus" Station "nonBoby"
55 Wregoe AC-D d12-57671680 "Titan City" Station "nonBoby"
56 Wregoe AC-D d12-58720256 GameCrash from here the game will Crash when trying to target.

How do you calculate the searchbar string, from the system ID number?

Disemboweled Ego · Feb 3, 2022

Thanks for this, I was using a different method to target these by figuring out the ids and editing the misc.conf, which required relogging and jumping out of the system.

Han_Zen said:
How do you calculate the searchbar string, from the system ID number?

I think it's the number of the body you want + the N2 number + 2 to the power of the length of the N2 bits in the id64 (which depends on the mass code), but I haven't tested it in too many systems. It feels non-trivial to explain and I think if I tried I'd just end up with something that reaches the solution in a roundabout way and is confusing.

Adel · Feb 3, 2022

So i tried this but i can't overflow the buffer:

C:

#include <stdio.h>
#include <stdlib.h>
#include <math.h>                                       // I need this to use the pow() function (power)
#include <string.h>                                      // i need this to convert number into string
#include <inttypes.h>                                   // uint64_t is defined here

int main()
{
    char buffer[8];                                             // 8 Bytes = 8*8bits = 64 bits

    uint64_t ID_Base = 10477373803;                             // Sol system adresse
    uint64_t ID_Overflow;

    ID_Overflow = ID_Base*pow(2,20);                            // Sol_adress*(2^20)

    sprintf(buffer, "%I64u", ID_Overflow);                      // Translate Number into string
    printf("ID_Base=%I64u\t, ID_Overflow=%I64u \t, buffer=%s\t\n", ID_Base, ID_Overflow, buffer);   // display results

    return 0;
}

Output result:

Code:

ID_Base=10477371448     , ID_Overflow=3617855278842786103       , buffer=10986322712854528

Process returned 0 (0x0)   execution time : 0.005 s
Press any key to continue.

What am i missing

?

Robert Rockbite · Feb 3, 2022

Don't worry, Your code "works" as intended.
However, your compiler or OS probably does not.
With gcc on Linux (and %lu instead of %I64u) I get:

Code:

ID_Base=                                                      1887439211    , ID_Overflow=                                                      2528116736     , buffer=                                                      2528116736   
*** stack smashing detected ***: terminated

Adel · Feb 3, 2022

Robert Rockbite said:
Don't worry, Your code "works" as intended.
However, your compiler or OS probably does not.
With gcc on Linux (and %lu instead of %I64u) I get:

Code:

ID_Base= 1887439211 , ID_Overflow= 2528116736 , buffer= 2528116736 *** stack smashing detected ***: terminated

I'm on Win10 Home 64 bits 21H2
I remember that "int" type are tricky because they depend on x86/x64 architecture.
This is why i used the uint64_t to be sure i have a 64bits variable.

But i totally forgot that linux can have another behavior, so another number retreived.

Thx for you help

Pyroboros · Feb 3, 2022

The Id to overflow is the SystemID not the 64bitAddress.
To get the bits for the Body by adding something to the 64bitAddress you would need to add BodyID* 2^54 (BodyID is always the 9 bit MSBs of 64bitAddress)

To get the SeachString

Adel · Feb 4, 2022

Pyroboros said:
The Id to overflow is the SystemID not the 64bitAddress.
To get the bits for the Body by adding something to the 64bitAddress you would need to add BodyID* 2^54 (BodyID is always the 9 bit MSBs of 64bitAddress)

To get the SeachString

Thx a lot for your tool !

For those that have issues with the file when downloading it:
- #NAME? => the pb comes from the difference between your system lang and the file lang. You have to get the right name of "BITLSHIFT" in your lang (in french it's "BITDECALG"). Then replace all occurences of BITLSHIFT to the function used in your lang.

- When a cell has "##########" it just means the number is too long and the police (letters height) is too tall to be displayed. I modified it from 10 to 8 and its now displayed.

Jorki Rasalas · Feb 4, 2022

As I understand it I suspect the last half dozen or so posts may be close to the boundary of breaching the EULA clauses 3 c,d,e

Elite Dangerous EULA and Terms of Use - Frontier Store

The Frontier Developments Online Store is the exclusive online retailer for products made and licensed by Frontier Developments plc

www.frontierstore.net

Traditionally this thread has studiously avoided taking advantage of any exploits in the Quest for Raxxla.
@Macros Black : what do you think mate?

Macros Black · Feb 4, 2022

Jorki Rasalas said:
As I understand it I suspect the last half dozen or so posts may be close to the boundary of breaching the EULA clauses 3 c,d,e

Elite Dangerous EULA and Terms of Use - Frontier Store

The Frontier Developments Online Store is the exclusive online retailer for products made and licensed by Frontier Developments plc

www.frontierstore.net

Traditionally this thread has studiously avoided taking advantage of any exploits in the Quest for Raxxla.
@Macros Black : what do you think mate?

Logs are public so I see no problems in this.

yelboc · Feb 4, 2022

Macros Black said:
Logs are public so I see no problems in this.

I think Jorki is referring to the exploiting of the games overflow behaviour in the galmap.

Disemboweled Ego · Feb 4, 2022

Jorki Rasalas said:
As I understand it I suspect the last half dozen or so posts may be close to the boundary of breaching the EULA clauses 3 c,d,e

I think it's a case where it violates the spirit of the law but not the letter of it.

It's definitely a bug that should be fixed or implemented properly (and securely) as a feature so you could link a route to any station/body/or combat zone easily from out of game links.

It would be way different the same exact exploit mechanism was used to gain a gameplay advantage or to crash other peoples games.

CMDR Davanix · Feb 4, 2022

FDevs way of player retention...

Lets limit player numbers per instance to a very low number...infact lets make it near impossible to instance in Open..uhuhuhuhu sounds great

Here Is a bug fix...uh huh created more bugs, Also add Thargoid bugs that arnt a threat anymore unless you choose them to be...

storyline? ah sure its going ahead fine... "Insert two hundred years later meme here"

Add a marksman/sniper rifle....ehh lets make it shoot really slow plasma balls

And uh we made Dinosaurs fun again out of the rest of the profits...huhuhuhu

Lets tell everyone Raxxla is, isnt, maybe, maybe not, cant reach, can reach, is some wierd bug we planted to show you Brabens face into the game to keep players playing...huhuhuhu

Sounds good boss you can go and not engage with the community anymore and lose your enthusiasm as you now have the money you wanted while crashing your fans hopes and excitement

Jorki Rasalas · Feb 5, 2022

yelboc said:
I think Jorki is referring to the exploiting of the games overflow behaviour in the galmap.

Thanks mate
Yes, this was what I was referring to, specifically the apparent use of software to exploit this bug which I think may contravene EULA clauses 3c and 3d.

Macros Black · Feb 5, 2022

I'm not clear on how using the galnet searchbar is a bug or how it can be used to find bodies?

Maybe someone from fdev could clarify whether or not this is a bug.

If it's a bug/unintended behavior then I wouldn't use it.

Lakon Spaceway · Feb 5, 2022

The search bar is universal cartographic, and it is for finding systems. If you've visited the system before, you can then find bodies using the system map. If you haven't then you need to got to the system, honk it on discovery scanner to find how many bodies there are in the system, and, then, use the full spectrum scanner to find bodies. To find places of interest to explore on the bodies, use a detailed surface to map the body 100%. Sometimes you need to then enter orbital cruise around the body before the places of interest on the surface show up in your navigation pane.

Jorki Rasalas · Feb 5, 2022

Lakon Spaceway said:
The search bar is universal cartographic, and it is for finding systems. If you've visited the system before, you can then find bodies using the system map. If you haven't then you need to got to the system, honk it on discovery scanner to find how many bodies there are in the system, and, then, use the full spectrum scanner to find bodies. To find places of interest to explore on the bodies, use a detailed surface to map the body 100%. Sometimes you need to then enter orbital cruise around the body before the places of interest on the surface show up in your navigation pane.

Ha ha ha, good joke. You do of course realise that most of us on this thread have been playing for many years!??

The question is whether it is acceptable to make use of an exploit, via the system search dialog and system logfiles, and in particular to automate that exploitation as recent discussion has implied.

P.S. In any case I don’t think it’s going to find Raxxla. I’m pretty convinced that Raxxla is disguised as an ordinary object and won’t be revealed until you perform some specific action-e.g. enter a tunnel (“omphalos”?) in an installation

PPS and please excuse me if Im grumpy. Copawlot had a fit yesterday, then again at 01:00 last night and I had a disturbed night afterwards with him, so a lack of sleep and an increasing annoyance with dogsh.. everywhere. Just had to clean up the kitchen