The Quest To Find Raxxla

Friedenreich Xante

Friedenreich Xante
Jaiotu said:
One thing that might make finding Raxxla even tougher is OBAFGKM (also known as KGB FOAM).

I know when I'm out generally traveling I tend to set my filters so that I only drop in on fuel stars unless I'm looking for something specific. I'm sure I'm not the only one. If Raxxla happens to be in a non-fuel star system this would make someone 'accidentally' discovering it even less likely. As you depart the bubble the first non-visited systems you'll start to encounter are those low-interest brown dwarf systems. It could be that Raxxla is sitting in our own backyard at orbiting of these low interest stars.

Another possibility is that Raxxla won't show up with a normal Honk. What is Raxxla is orbiting one of those distant binary stars that is so far from the main star. Many explorers simply scan the planets near the primary and leave those distant objects untouched because they are 'too far' to travel to and 'not worth' the scan.

For these reasons (and others) I'm pretty convinced that the only way we'll ever discover Raxxla is if Frontier have left us some breadcrumbs to follow. The question then becomes just what "a tiny bit obvious" actually means. There's a lot of leeway in that "tiny bit" modifier. Is it obvious or not? If it's only "a tiny bit obvious" then it really isn't obvious at all, is it? Or does "a tiny bit" mean that it is obvious that it becomes ridiculous to the point of absurdity so that everyone just ignores it? Like Raxxla being Sirius or The Founders World?

We've been told that there will be "no clues" but I'm pretty sure this means that we won't be given any clues outside the game itself. There must be some way of finding Raxxla using information in the game ... or maybe Frontier is planning to eventually insert clues into the game over time to make finding Raxxla a possibility. I can't believe that Frontier will pass on the public relations possibilities of industry news covering the discovery of a decades-long gaming enigma. If we can't find it by brute force they'll eventually spoon feed us the answers ala Drew Wagar and the Zurara discovery.
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What's even more cryptic is MB's Phrase "It's a journey that everyone has to travel for themselves." Does that mean that there is a Special way to find it, and everyone who wants to find it has to follow a specific procedure, otherwise it won't unlock? This would sustain the theory that it's in a Permit locked sector, and some requirements have to be met to unlock it, and "everyone has to travel for themselves" because once it has been found by one, the others following will have to meet those requirement.

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Jaiotu

Jaiotu
Friedenreich Xante said:
What's even more cryptic is MB's Phrase "It's a journey that everyone has to travel for themselves." Does that mean that there is a Special way to find it, and everyone who wants to find it has to follow a specific procedure, otherwise it won't unlock? This would sustain the theory that it's in a Permit locked sector, and some requirements have to be met to unlock it, and "everyone has to travel for themselves" because once it has been found by one, the others following will have to meet those requirement.
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Well ... lets dissect Michael's statement: It's a journey that everyone has to travel for themselves.

What if he was being overly literal? Is there some journey in the game that simply can't be bypassed? It can't be LHS 3447 ... I know I didn't start there in my original account so there was nothing to force me to journey there. It can't be Shinrarta Dehzra because not everyone becomes Elite and becoming Elite doesn't force you to go there.

The only journey that I can think of that you absolutely HAVE to take is the one into witchspace (unless you never leave your starter system which would be kind of pointless).

Of course ... this is just assuming that MB's statement should be interpreted literally.
 

Friedenreich Xante

Friedenreich Xante
Jaiotu said:
Well ... lets dissect Michael's statement: It's a journey that everyone has to travel for themselves.

What if he was being overly literal? Is there some journey in the game that simply can't be bypassed? It can't be LHS 3447 ... I know I didn't start there in my original account so there was nothing to force me to journey there. It can't be Shinrarta Dehzra because not everyone becomes Elite and becoming Elite doesn't force you to go there.

The only journey that I can think of that you absolutely HAVE to take is the one into witchspace (unless you never leave your starter system which would be kind of pointless).

Of course ... this is just assuming that MB's statement should be interpreted literally.
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Mhh even taken literally, since he was talking about Raxxla, "has" is being used in the context of "has... in order to find Raxxla", nothing else IMHO.
 

[Diplomacy] Carnegie

[Diplomacy] Carnegie
Jaiotu said:
Well ... lets dissect Michael's statement: It's a journey that everyone has to travel for themselves.

What if he was being overly literal? Is there some journey in the game that simply can't be bypassed? It can't be LHS 3447 ... I know I didn't start there in my original account so there was nothing to force me to journey there. It can't be Shinrarta Dehzra because not everyone becomes Elite and becoming Elite doesn't force you to go there.

The only journey that I can think of that you absolutely HAVE to take is the one into witchspace (unless you never leave your starter system which would be kind of pointless).

Of course ... this is just assuming that MB's statement should be interpreted literally.
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If I was going to take anything literally from that comment, it would be that the criteria for finding Raxxla are different for every Cmdr - "for themselves"

Or, alternatively, it's just a parental way of saying "I'm not going to tell you".
 

Scytale

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Jaiotu said:
It can't be Shinrarta Dehzra because not everyone becomes Elite and becoming Elite doesn't force you to go there.
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The Dark Wheel faction is in SD. (Same name as the title of the book 'The Dark Wheel', by RH, featuring a certain mythical celestial body called Raxxla...you know that sooo well, Doc. ;))
 

[Diplomacy] Carnegie

[Diplomacy] Carnegie
Scytale said:
The Dark Wheel faction is in SD. (Same name as the title of the book 'The Dark Wheel', by RH, featuring a certain mythical celestial body called Raxxla...you know that sooo well, Doc. ;))
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I treat the 'Dark Wheel' faction the way I do the 'Children of Raxxla' - they're just a bunch of people who chose a 'cool' name and don't have any more knowledge than the rest of us.

Also, to Cmdr Jaiotu's point, you don't have to be Elite to go to Shin - KS backers get access.
 
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Noobilite

Noobilite
Not sure if this has been stated before, but here is the supposed origin of the raxxla idea(according to the internet searching I just did.). Did anyone use this info to try to find it?

http://elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Raxxla
http://ski-ffy.blogspot.com/2012/02/alien-world-complete-illustrated-guide.html



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"The Eye Of The Beholder. A Raxxlan projection which appeared above the primitive world Winter D, populated by sentient, but unadvanced insectoids. The Eye became an overwhelming symbol of the evil that stared from the heavens, so disorienting the creatures that the Oisir-Raxxla were able to build their structure and depart without life being lost."
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Painting by F. Jurgen Rogner.
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Any equivalence to this in the game?

I also found this image. I can't read it completely and I don't know what it is from.(Apparently clicking on it helps!)

https://twitter.com/cmdrisokix/status/799557809079746560?lang=en
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxiZc8QXgAUg0TB.jpg
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This is also interesting but I'm assuming it is related to the formadine rift. Unless they are related.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxiZiIGXcAAUU5s.jpg
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PLAA AEC IZ-N C20-1, PRU AESCS DL-W C15-37, EAFOTS EU-R C4-1

Not sure what this is but it looks cool. Tower of Isokix.

https://twitter.com/CMDRISOKIX/status/1008432924897763330

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=1k7cEzhBlaI&app=desktop

Out of curiosity, if you follow the nose of the Zurara where is it pointed? Can't get in the game still because I'm on linux.
 
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Scytale

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DrewCarnegie said:
I treat the 'Dark Wheel' faction the way I do the 'Children of Raxxla' - they're just a bunch of people who chose a 'cool' name and don't have any more knowledge than the rest of us.
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TDW faction is FDev made, afaik. Which makes quite a pretty difference imho. Or should we then treat Sirius Corp your same way too?

*(Why have I the strange feeling that some of our excellent and veteran fellow threaders suddenly may want us away of SD and TDW ??? Is there anything they are...obfuscating :eek: ??? )*
 
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Dziondziak

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If Raxxla cant be stumbled upon, then it must be in a permit locked area. The only other option is some wacky procedure that could not be guessed. wait for x and y to align, pass through the rings of z and follow the north star till morning. I dont think thats the case because it would not be possible to figure out without clues.
"A journey that everyone has to travel for themselves." Makes me think of some unspoken requirement. Perhaps there is a fourth Elite status that is tracked but not shown, or some other way to obtain a permit.
I accept the "little bit obvious" to be more obvious than not. If its as menial as a small site on a planet will let you know, it would be possible to know the planet, look for hours and still not find it. I believe Raxxla will be identifiable from orbit at least.
 

[Diplomacy] Carnegie

[Diplomacy] Carnegie
Scytale said:
TDW faction is FDev made, afaik. Which makes quite a pretty difference imho. Or should we then treat Sirius Corp your same way too?

*(Why have I the strange feeling that some of our excellent and veteran fellow threaders suddenly may want us away of SD and TDW ??? Is there anything they are...obfuscating :eek: ??? )*
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Sirius Corp isn't a shadowy, secret organization, unlike the REAL Dark Wheel.

If I wanted to run a secret organization, I'd definitely set up a public one with the same name. Perfect obfuscation.

Zieman said:
IIRC the devs have told that the system has been visited. Don't remember if it was even honked, but Raxxla itself wasn't scanned anyway.
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There's no known source for that rumor, so take it with a pinch of salt.
 

Nivolet

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Noobilite said:
Not sure if this has been stated before, but here is the supposed origin of the raxxla idea(according to the internet searching I just did.). Did anyone use this info to try to find it?

http://elite-dangerous.wikia.com/wiki/Raxxla
http://ski-ffy.blogspot.com/2012/02/alien-world-complete-illustrated-guide.html




Any equivalence to this in the game?

I also found this image. I can't read it completely and I don't know what it is from.(Apparently clicking on it helps!)

https://twitter.com/cmdrisokix/status/799557809079746560?lang=en




This is also interesting but I'm assuming it is related to the formadine rift. Unless they are related.



PLAA AEC IZ-N C20-1, PRU AESCS DL-W C15-37, EAFOTS EU-R C4-1

Not sure what this is but it looks cool. Tower of Isokix.

https://twitter.com/CMDRISOKIX/status/1008432924897763330

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=1k7cEzhBlaI&app=desktop

Out of curiosity, if you follow the nose of the Zurara where is it pointed? Can't get in the game still because I'm on linux.
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Tbh I like the idea of photos or images as reference to Raxxla.

Take a look at this: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...0200703120236208.1073741825.1107456896&type=3

Basically it’s Michael Brookes back. But the Lovecraft reference always makes me think...

I tried to get some of the Raxxla references together with the Cthulhu Myth but... well... naaaaah...

Perhaps you have some better ideas.

Good luck commander

O7
 

Scytale

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DrewCarnegie said:
Sirius Corp isn't a shadowy, secret organization, unlike the REAL Dark Wheel.

If I wanted to run a secret organization, I'd definitely set up a public one with the same name. Perfect obfuscation.
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You mean something like this ?
‘Shinrarta Dezhra?’ The woman laughed, her scorn plain to hear. ‘You think
the Dark Wheel advertises on a station board in plain sight? That we need
rookie (Elite/Founders ?)pilots to drag a couple of tonnes of thrumpberry flavouring across to
Hutton orbital? A trivial ploy to keep the founders amused.’
‘I’m gratified to hear it,’ Thorn replied. ‘You had me worried for a moment.’
‘It was a little too obvious,’ the second man agreed.
‘It keeps the treasure seekers and wishful thinkers occupied (Rifters ?),’ the woman said.
‘They believe they are on to something. They have their uses for occasional
menial activities. The truth is far more subtle than they will ever suspect.(Rifters indeed...)
Shinrarta is nothing.’
‘So…?’
‘You should not consider the Dark Wheel a single organisation, gentlemen.
How could it survive for so long if it were so? The Wheel has many levels,
many hubs, cogs, gears and spokes. It is more akin to an affiliation of
organisations that share certain common goals. Interlocking in purpose.
Consider yourselves now spinning on the outermost rim.’


I pretty much like this fan fiction... Aims to the point imho.
 
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[Diplomacy] Carnegie

[Diplomacy] Carnegie
Scytale said:
You mean something like this ?
‘Shinrarta Dezhra?’ The woman laughed, her scorn plain to hear. ‘You think
the Dark Wheel advertises on a station board in plain sight? That we need
rookie (Elite/Founders ?)pilots to drag a couple of tonnes of thrumpberry flavouring across to
Hutton orbital? A trivial ploy to keep the founders amused.’
‘I’m gratified to hear it,’ Thorn replied. ‘You had me worried for a moment.’
‘It was a little too obvious,’ the second man agreed.
‘It keeps the treasure seekers and wishful thinkers occupied (Rifters ?),’ the woman said.
‘They believe they are on to something. They have their uses for occasional
menial activities. The truth is far more subtle than they will ever suspect.
Shinrarta is nothing.’
‘So…?’
‘You should not consider the Dark Wheel a single organisation, gentlemen.
How could it survive for so long if it were so? The Wheel has many levels,
many hubs, cogs, gears and spokes. It is more akin to an affiliation of
organisations that share certain common goals. Interlocking in purpose.
Consider yourselves now spinning on the outermost rim.’
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She always did use 100 words when 10 would do.
 

Noobilite

Noobilite
I just noticed something. DW=DarkWheel,DrewWagner... The truth myth is out there!!

https://canonn.science/lore/drewwagar-raxxla/

This is very similar to this...

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/I...ipIBSkHNa10qhfz-ozpMDA3bFoyCyAojRNq1nFr64=s85 This image appears to be broken. And now very tiny... Drag it into a google search. It's about the children of raxxla coming home. Not sure if it's cannon or the player groups content. or both or neither.


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Coincidence?!

Now that I'm seeing that image in really large scale I'm noticing there is something like writing in the reflection of the eye. Is it Hebrew? Can Raxxla be spelled in Hebrew, Arabic or Aramaic? Look at the top of the blue part of the eye. And the top of the black of the inner eye for that matter. It looks like that or Japanese...

The image also contains what appears to be 6 planets and a star.. possibly polaris. And the original description describes a primitive insectoid race... Isn't that the thargoids? Or are they not insectoid?

Also, Raxxla as an anagram... Xlaxra. Or maybe Alx Xar... Alex Xar?!

Side note: What is the planet on the splash screen where you choose to enter the game or go to options. It has a version of the picture where there is a station in orbit with a little planetary vehicle looking at it and another with the station crashed in front of the rover.

http://i.imgur.com/cmytuqw.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkDj8KhrDig

Here is someone reading from the original book. It might be someone in this thread. I forget what he said his user name was.

I just had a thought. Did that guy who went to the developers system out side the galaxy scan that system. I wonder if raxxla isn't the developers system that is too far to travel too. If only one person went there and only refueled and was taken back. Maybe that is raxxla. The darkwheel could be fdevs and their game development.
 
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Friedenreich Xante

Friedenreich Xante
What is known about Bellica, LHS 2894, Ross 354 and Wolf 262? Those are permit locked systems that are much closer to Sol. Is there any lore around them?

There are also many Fed locked systems we don't know how to unlock yet (though I don't think Feds are hiding Raxxla). Have efforts been made to find a way to unlock them?
 
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