Just looked it up: Premonition, Chapter 23, page 337 and the few pages leading up to it.I doubt that was in the col70 sector, while it's always hard to place locations from the novels, Col70 is extremely far away and it's clear in AHTW they are using 2b drives given the travel times they (frequently) quote.
Wreaken is absolutely mentioned, but they also do have outposts in many places. I'm not sure a bunch of pirates would travel hundreds of lightyears outside known space to attack an outpost.
First time I've heard that. I'd be interested if you can recall the quote? It's been years since I read that one, I'd prefer not to have to re-read a Drew book
The Quest To Find Raxxla
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That's an interesting reminder, thanksA few years back (more than 5 now!) I did a POI for the GMP covering what had been discovered by players about Guardian space and (possibly) Thargoid territory at that point.
It’s been slightly superseded now, but still might be worth a read for anyone who wasn’t around (or heavily involved) then.
EDSM - Elite Dangerous Star Map
The Galactic Positioning System of Elite: Dangerous at your service.www.edsm.net
(I hasten to add that there’s nothing in it that I think is Raxxla related, so this is really just for general interest as the topic’s been coming up a bit.)
I'm actually trying to track a mystery down that related to Braintrees, maybe someone can help with that (assuming that Scriveners might be related to the Raxxla hunt, etc).
This map from ED Astrometrics shows braintree locations on the border between the Sanguineous Rim and Inner Orion spur (bottom left of the big blob), but I just can't find any documented discoveries there.
The below map is Aliens, there's no corresponding blue blob in the same place, but it's possible it's obscured by the Thargoid data?:
Looking at the Codex, there's a single Reported Guardian Codex (monolith) reported in Outotz LS-K D8-3 for the Sanguineous Rim, but I can't find it. Comparing the ED Astrometrics map of the Guardian sites with the Braintree map, that particular Braintree blob doesn't seem to corelate to an recorded Guardian ruins.
I've checked the Canonn list of Guardian sites, and the Canonn list of Braintree sites and I can't find anything that might be this mysterious blob or that reported discovery in Outotz. I've generally googled around and can't find anything. ED Astrometrics says it got that data from the usual sources (not self-reported).
My guess is that maybe someone(s) found them while exploring but didn't not them on the Canonn lists or anywhere else.
Does anyone have any ideas?
I'm in the Flaming Star Nebula area now since I think that's approximately where the ED Astrometrics map shows the blob...
Awesome, thanks! Nicely solved there
I may be a bit more sceptical than you...or maybe I’m just getting crotchety with old age!
I suspect that Raxxla has not been materially changed at all since the gamma & I don't think Odyssey will bring any new clues.
I also suspect it was originally hidden, either by a permit (which we probably all have by now obtained!) or by a set of conditions which were only introduced later. The reason for this belief is Drew Wagar’s statement that DB said something along the lines of “Raxxla is in-game, we (i.e. FD) know where it is and we know why it hasn't been found”. Drew only mentioned that latter bit in a couple of references I’ve found.
The other reason for my beliefs are the way I think FD/DB/MB operate, and the apparent lack of open knowledge of anything to do with Raxxla within FD-I’m metagaming! If Raxxla had been updated then more people would have been invoved (graphics designers, game designers, code implementers...) which would make the secret much harder to keep...so I think there would have been leaks.
P.S. I also suspect the FSS will be no help at all in finding Raxxla!
Not sure on either of them I'm afraid. That Outotz system seems to be referenced a lot as a crystalline shard mat farming system, so I’d be very surprised if there’s actually a Guardian site there that never got reported in to Canonn. Quite possibly just a Codex bug. Easy enough to check if anyone’s out that way though.That's an interesting reminder, thanks
I'm actually trying to track a mystery down that related to Braintrees, maybe someone can help with that (assuming that Scriveners might be related to the Raxxla hunt, etc).
This map from ED Astrometrics shows braintree locations on the border between the Sanguineous Rim and Inner Orion spur (bottom left of the big blob), but I just can't find any documented discoveries there.
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The below map is Aliens, there's no corresponding blue blob in the same place, but it's possible it's obscured by the Thargoid data?:
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Looking at the Codex, there's a single Reported Guardian Codex (monolith) reported in Outotz LS-K D8-3 for the Sanguineous Rim, but I can't find it. Comparing the ED Astrometrics map of the Guardian sites with the Braintree map, that particular Braintree blob doesn't seem to corelate to an recorded Guardian ruins.
I've checked the Canonn list of Guardian sites, and the Canonn list of Braintree sites and I can't find anything that might be this mysterious blob or that reported discovery in Outotz. I've generally googled around and can't find anything. ED Astrometrics says it got that data from the usual sources (not self-reported).
My guess is that maybe someone(s) found them while exploring but didn't not them on the Canonn lists or anywhere else.
Does anyone have any ideas?
I'm in the Flaming Star Nebula area now since I think that's approximately where the ED Astrometrics map shows the blob...
Similar for the Braintree area, which looks to be somewhere on the ‘South-West’ Col 70 border to me. Maybe it’s near the small permit locked region just off Col 70 - an NGC one I think. I’m pretty sure I checked the borders of that for Braintrees just before 3.3 launched though and there weren’t any at the time IIRC.
A mild aside on that small permit locked region - I came across it years ago by following an asterism, which from the California nebula looked almost exactly the same shape as the layout of the first Guardian site. I doubt there’s any actual connection, but it was an interesting find nonetheless! (When I say I came across it, I just mean finding it personally. I’m not claiming I was first to find it, just to be clear. Though admittedly I didn’t come across very many discovered systems nearby.)
Fair enough, I'm not against that idea either. The way I work at the moment facilitates for all of themI may be a bit more sceptical than you...or maybe I’m just getting crotchety with old age!
I suspect that Raxxla has not been materially changed at all since the gamma & I don't think Odyssey will bring any new clues.
I also suspect it was originally hidden, either by a permit (which we probably all have by now obtained!) or by a set of conditions which were only introduced later. The reason for this belief is Drew Wagar’s statement that DB said something along the lines of “Raxxla is in-game, we (i.e. FD) know where it is and we know why it hasn't been found”. Drew only mentioned that latter bit in a couple of references I’ve found.
The other reason for my beliefs are the way I think FD/DB/MB operate, and the apparent lack of open knowledge of anything to do with Raxxla within FD-I’m metagaming! If Raxxla had been updated then more people would have been invoved (graphics designers, game designers, code implementers...) which would make the secret much harder to keep...so I think there would have been leaks.
P.S. I also suspect the FSS will be no help at all in finding Raxxla!
That's the thing I like since we don't know what to focus our efforts on really. So just keep playing the game of Raxxla, turning any stones if I happen to see one. Observe. Pay attention, Try out anything that may be relevant.It gives me an opportunity & reason to play the game. We all do the same I guess. o7
Ah, right. Nice old coincidence?
BD-12 1172 (Spirograph) back in the early days had a 'independent' status (2017/3303).
That glitch was quickly ironed over by FDev after it was discussed on the forums in regards to Wreaken & Col 70.
I kept the bookmark from then.
It's almost in line as you said, BD-12 1172 is a tad lower down.
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"Undaunted, some Raxxla seekers insisted the story’s Author had cunningly concealed facts about the mysterious locale in his book, as hints for those with eyes to see."
perhaps suggesting a book cipher for this...
"To the jewel that burns on the brow of the mother of galaxies! To the whisperer in witch-space, the siren of the deepest void! The Parent’s grief, the Lovers woe and the yearning of our vagabond hearts! To Raxxla!"
... Just a thought ....
perhaps suggesting a book cipher for this...
"To the jewel that burns on the brow of the mother of galaxies! To the whisperer in witch-space, the siren of the deepest void! The Parent’s grief, the Lovers woe and the yearning of our vagabond hearts! To Raxxla!"
... Just a thought ....
Ooh that's intriguing! I wonder if maybe the Dredgers would be considered 'independent' in that way?
Lots of ringed planets there too, It would be a good place for a Dredger clan ship to refuel. I'm loosely speculating that they must have some systems marked as their own version of green systems, presumably one with many rings would be potentially such a system.
*I've just read that the Dredgers were in 2.4, and two of them (Artificers and Phagos) appeared in the 2.4 Beta, but were never seen in game (assumed to be not in game for that reason). That's very interesting to me. Maybe they have been in game just never found? that means your 3303 screenshot could well have reflected a Dredger in-system?
Unfortunately I'm 1300ly away following the approximate vector the other way... tempted to go look at Spirograph though.
Is the Artificer's dredger still in Upaniklis, do you know?
I'm zigzagging my way down, I'm 1200LY above just poking some old megaship wrecks from the past.
But I assume we're 5 years late ...
I don't know
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Here’s the answer to that:
(Posted to the Alien Archaeology thread originally.)
Edit - as the full date’s not in the text, the post’s from 2020.
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Thank you!
Earlier much, much earlier....
From the first game's manual and their description is absolutely wild.
They were repaired with a warp drive and have departed to an unknown destination. Though, there are several Earth-likes not terribly far from Upaniklis so you never know. From "A Renewed Journey for the Golconda":
The rest is probably worth including..
Not sure but this may be FDev saying "don't be afraid to take leaps of faith". Anyway, it was lovely having provided several rounds of supplies to ensure their safe departure for unknown destinations.
I think it may be a critical hint that a Dredger (or part of one) upgraded the Golconda with modern drives yet they are absolutely ancient.
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Interesting...presumably one of the official books? Or Milton’s Paradise Lost perhaps?
Perhaps this is this your wordpress site?
At least it has the reference, apparently from Philip Sidney’s poem which has been discussed so often in this thread.
Nice site, there are some nice summaries on other subjects there as well.
Astrophel and Stella
From this para of the codex – many have searched google and found Philip Sidney’s poem: Several versions of the Raxxla story mention an alien artifact: The Omphalos rift, described as a…
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I knew it! Decepticons!
What is the image on top of the just-published Discovery Scanner?
Is that a Guardian Beacon taken from a weird angle, or something new?
Is that a Guardian Beacon taken from a weird angle, or something new?