Will have to check on that. This being why I get e-books that can be rapidly searched. Also, pretty sure TDW had a mention of a fly-over of London as a reward for the Sim-training undertaken by Alex Ryder.
The Quest To Find Raxxla
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Completely agree, I've been chased by FIA, ATR, IISS, Alliance Interpol, Thargoids and Blue Epaulettes for years now. Basically have to carry a rocket launcher everywhere and sleep inside a spaceship. It's a really rough galaxy out there.
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Will be in Pliedaes system this weekend for Tourist Spot 0748 A Rare Warmth.
As this is one of our hotbed of ref locations I will be spending some time here.
I've been to Maia before but never took time to really look around the system or visit the others.
Anyone have any suggestions for areas to double check in or around the 7 sisters?
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As this is one of our hotbed of ref locations I will be spending some time here.
I've been to Maia before but never took time to really look around the system or visit the others.
Anyone have any suggestions for areas to double check in or around the 7 sisters?
The lost sister
Similar “lost Pleiad” stories are found in European, African, Asian, Indonesian, Native American and Aboriginal Australian cultures. Many cultures regard the cluster as having seven stars, but acknowledge only six are normally visible, and then have a story to explain why the seventh is invisible.
The world’s oldest story? Astronomers say global myths about ‘seven sisters’ stars may reach back 100,000 years
Cultures around the world call the Pleiades constellation ‘seven sisters’, even though we can only see six stars today. But things looked quite different 100,000 years ago
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Will be in Pliedaes system this weekend for Tourist Spot 0748 A Rare Warmth.
As this is one of our hotbed of ref locations I will be spending some time here.
I've been to Maia before but never took time to really look around the system or visit the others.
Anyone have any suggestions for areas to double check in or around the 7 sisters?
The lost sister
Similar “lost Pleiad” stories are found in European, African, Asian, Indonesian, Native American and Aboriginal Australian cultures. Many cultures regard the cluster as having seven stars, but acknowledge only six are normally visible, and then have a story to explain why the seventh is invisible.
The world’s oldest story? Astronomers say global myths about ‘seven sisters’ stars may reach back 100,000 years
Cultures around the world call the Pleiades constellation ‘seven sisters’, even though we can only see six stars today. But things looked quite different 100,000 years ago
In today's episode of "waaaaaaaait a minute...":
Artemis, the Pleiades and Orion have a very clear mythological link that we somehow missed or forgot.
Now the question is, assuming all stops are meaningful, where would Beta Sculptoris and the Guardian space even fit.
Also, the lost Pleiad is our good friend Merope (out of shame for her husband Sisyphus tricking his way out of the underworld twice) - so you could start from there.
I am planning a retrurn there to look mare at a later date but included will be alpha as well as it just seems like a good spot to go.
True but how could Orion and the Pleiades fit within the Codex?
I’ve looked at a potential link for years over multiple relationships including this association, but at most the link is tenuous, granted historical but I think we need more than classical mythology.
I want the Pleiades to fit, because of the obviousness of Delphi.
The only thing pointing from the Codex to Delphi is the references to the Omphalos Rift.
Most of the Codex I presume is effectively telling us to look towards Axis Mundi and the Lost Realms around there, Ive associated with Robert Holdstock…
Now we could draw a correlation between AxiscMundi and Hyperborea, because when you look at their XYZ positions they ‘sort of’ line up, but that’s a stretch. Nothing else seems to point to Delphi?
Which is sort of counterintuitive, especially since the Brookes tours.
My presumption then is the Thargoid narrative eg the site of Delphi was a ‘clue’, telling us to look for a world tree, and an axis mundi… that is effectively the Lost Realms area in my opinion… but what else’in game’ could point us towards Delphi?
Personally I don’t think it’s relevant, please I want to be proven wrong. I suspect it’s the other way around. There’s too much going on in the Lost Realms area, it’s a relative hot spot. And the first leg of Brookes Tour points us directly to it!
It makes no sense to me to suddenly jump from Axis Mundi to Delphi, without some context in game, the distance is too big, not without a clue or context, what could we be missing?
I’ve looked at a potential link for years over multiple relationships including this association, but at most the link is tenuous, granted historical but I think we need more than classical mythology.
I want the Pleiades to fit, because of the obviousness of Delphi.
The only thing pointing from the Codex to Delphi is the references to the Omphalos Rift.
Most of the Codex I presume is effectively telling us to look towards Axis Mundi and the Lost Realms around there, Ive associated with Robert Holdstock…
Now we could draw a correlation between AxiscMundi and Hyperborea, because when you look at their XYZ positions they ‘sort of’ line up, but that’s a stretch. Nothing else seems to point to Delphi?
Which is sort of counterintuitive, especially since the Brookes tours.
My presumption then is the Thargoid narrative eg the site of Delphi was a ‘clue’, telling us to look for a world tree, and an axis mundi… that is effectively the Lost Realms area in my opinion… but what else’in game’ could point us towards Delphi?
Personally I don’t think it’s relevant, please I want to be proven wrong. I suspect it’s the other way around. There’s too much going on in the Lost Realms area, it’s a relative hot spot. And the first leg of Brookes Tour points us directly to it!
It makes no sense to me to suddenly jump from Axis Mundi to Delphi, without some context in game, the distance is too big, not without a clue or context, what could we be missing?
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Re-reading Milton in relation to the quote used from the Brookes Tour, describing Miltons pendant world.
Its actually described in the full text as hanging from the walls of heaven, which I interpreted as being described as an expansive circular area. An enormous circle, a circular wall in space. Could Raxxla be ‘below’ the Lost Realms… because my current hypothesis is these areas collectively denote an ‘Otherworld’.
This ‘Otherworld’ area sits directly below the great world tree Yggdrasil, upon Axis Mundi, a Celtic symbol for a doorway to the Otherworld, it’s surrounded on all sides by systems and bodies named after ‘Mountains’, and ‘seas’ more Celtic symbolism for the zones separating the Otherworld from our realm; effectively and collectively has FD built a Celtic cosmological model?
Did FD then hang Raxxla from this area, in a sort of reversed Miltonian heaven? Again remember in Miltons Pandemonium, Hell is supposed to be a perverse version of creation.
Its actually described in the full text as hanging from the walls of heaven, which I interpreted as being described as an expansive circular area. An enormous circle, a circular wall in space. Could Raxxla be ‘below’ the Lost Realms… because my current hypothesis is these areas collectively denote an ‘Otherworld’.
This ‘Otherworld’ area sits directly below the great world tree Yggdrasil, upon Axis Mundi, a Celtic symbol for a doorway to the Otherworld, it’s surrounded on all sides by systems and bodies named after ‘Mountains’, and ‘seas’ more Celtic symbolism for the zones separating the Otherworld from our realm; effectively and collectively has FD built a Celtic cosmological model?
Did FD then hang Raxxla from this area, in a sort of reversed Miltonian heaven? Again remember in Miltons Pandemonium, Hell is supposed to be a perverse version of creation.
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On the subject of the Pleiades, Pleione was considered the mother, what star would be the "brow" of the mother of the Pleiades if viewed from Sol?
I refer to the below image, is that a Cobra mk2? shape for WFPC2 within 3 FGS's????? is this a subtle clue from Frontier that we should be looking at the WFPC2 picture catalogue? refer one example below again.
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I refer to the below image, is that a Cobra mk2? shape for WFPC2 within 3 FGS's????? is this a subtle clue from Frontier that we should be looking at the WFPC2 picture catalogue? refer one example below again.
Individual colour images - 3 (WFPC2, 545 nm)
Individual colour images - 3 (WFPC2, 545 nm)
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Interesting that its loading as if something with the name exists but not going anywhere yet
Maia is neat but the blackhole is really far away (~25 minutes of supercruise). Perhaps start there. Maia B is noted on the beacon as being a lens for local star and nebula. Possibly, a specific alignment as suggested by Rochester's research. In, theory this should be possible by going to Maia B and then targeting something nearby at the approximate alignment. Yes, I do believe some of the "user submitted" beacons were FDev CMDRs dropping hints. Some of these are just too weird for that not be happening. Either that, or FDev currating keen observations by us regular CMDRs that fit the larger narrative.
I feel like the bottom is the most easily overlooked part of the bubble, so it makes a lot of sense to hide stuff there.
My first visit I had tried to position myself to see what they were talkimg about but no dice.
I think if we have the correct (raxxla?) System we will see something to confirm it.
I've also been trying to line up several systems to see if I can get a line (pointer) that could also show what system may be a good check point. Honestly though, 7 Sisters seems like the best point to start before looking out (ha, a pun.)
From Googling "Pleiades missing star":
Merope (The Lost Sister) – Merope is more commonly accepted as the 'lost Pleiad' because hers was the last star to be mapped by astronomers and is the faintest star in the cluster, not visible to the naked eye.
Try an alignment with Merope from Maia B blackhole.
Merope (The Lost Sister) – Merope is more commonly accepted as the 'lost Pleiad' because hers was the last star to be mapped by astronomers and is the faintest star in the cluster, not visible to the naked eye.
Try an alignment with Merope from Maia B blackhole.
MEROPE - Corinthian Pleiad Nymph of Greek Mythology
In Greek mythology Merope was one of the Pleiades--seven star-nymph daughters of the Titan Atlas. She was the wife the impious king Sisyphus and ancestress of the Corinthian and Lycian royal houses. Merope was so ashamed of her husband's crimes that she hid her face in heaven, causing the...
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One other thing in relation to TDW Alleged Toast. The "mother of Galaxies" may be Pleione. Pleione is the mother of the Pleiades and she is sometimes known as Aethra.
Googling "mother of the Pleiades":
Pleiades, in Greek mythology, the seven daughters of the Titan Atlas and the Oceanid Pleione: Maia, Electra, Taygete, Celaeno, Alcyone, Sterope, and Merope. They all had children by gods (except Merope, who married Sisyphus).
Pleione was perhaps also known as Aethra, for in ancient texts, the mythology of the two overlaps. Pleione was perhaps one of the Epimelides, the Oceanid nymphs associated with meadows and pastures, for Pleione can be taken to mean “plenty”, something associated with flocks of sheep.
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Googling "mother of the Pleiades":
Pleiades, in Greek mythology, the seven daughters of the Titan Atlas and the Oceanid Pleione: Maia, Electra, Taygete, Celaeno, Alcyone, Sterope, and Merope. They all had children by gods (except Merope, who married Sisyphus).
Pleione was perhaps also known as Aethra, for in ancient texts, the mythology of the two overlaps. Pleione was perhaps one of the Epimelides, the Oceanid nymphs associated with meadows and pastures, for Pleione can be taken to mean “plenty”, something associated with flocks of sheep.
AETHER (Aither) - Greek Primordial God of Light & the Heavenly Ether
Aether was the primordial god (protogenos) of light and the bright, blue ether of the heavens. His mists filled the space between the solid dome of the sky and below the transparent mists of the earth-bound air. In the evening his mother Nyx drew her dark veil across the sky, obscuring the ether...
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Lesson: The Pleiades is actually their mother (Pleione/Aethra/Aether) and 6 of them with Merope hiding. Additionally, Merope is not a bright star and generally not visible. Mythology would agree on that and the lore. Further, Aethra fits into the Trojan War mythos and may well explain Delphi being in the Pleiades. Which means: Alleged Toast of the Dark Wheel is particularly about the Pleiades.
Does our Yggradasil somehow line up with Pleiades region?
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Does our Yggradasil somehow line up with Pleiades region?
Aethra (mother of Theseus) - Wikipedia
Aethra | Titaness, Daughter of Pittheus, Helen of Troy
Aethra, in Greek mythology, daughter of King Pittheus of Troezen and mother of Theseus. Thinking to help fulfill the prophecy of the Oracle at Delphi regarding how the childlessness of King Aegeus of Athens would end, Pittheus (whose prospects for a son-in-law had recently vanished) plied Aegeus
In regards to Yggdrasil and the Pleiades, not really…but maybe?
Yggdrasil is ‘higher up’ relatively, only its ‘lower aspects’ fall into the same relative alignment, if you look from Hyperborea - they do fall almost into the same Y position.
This positional point of view is likewise in correlation with the Thargoid Mealstroms, which sit on either side creating an odd window so to speak or a gap!
A path through the Mealstroms?
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/the-quest-to-find-raxxla.168253/post-10138410
The Lost Realms of Robert Holdstock, with Mountains (white), inside the Mealstroms!
Interestingly when you overlay the Yggdrasil systems with the Mealstroms, the system Jormungand is within this gap also!
This position is kind of in opposition to the path of Jacques… but that’s stretching it I think. Spacially there doesn’t look to be any commonality, if there is I would say it’s either pattern bias or it directs the eye from Delphi to Hyperborea, not the other way around.
But that’s my point; whilst initially building my maps of the Lost Realms, before I made any connections to Holdstock, I’d seen certain visual correlations, mostly where there was a distinct system, way off, but which had a mythological or literary link.
To my eye at first it felt it ought to draw my attention ‘away’ from the Lost Realms zone… so granted some made me think there might be directional clues towards Delphi, but I could not make them stick.
Then I noticed this was happening a lot, so effectively there were lots of these far off areas, but once I made the link to Holdstock they made sense. They were actually drawing the attention ’towards’ the Lost Realms area.
For instance there’s the system Fintan - an Irish survivor of the biblical flood, it’s way off the beaten track, not actually mentioned in Holdstocks work, but a potential link to mythology by its link to ‘sunken’ lands. I made the link because it’s on the same YZ positions of the zone and had a few other weird named systems close by to it, forming what I saw as a path, linked to ‘sunken lands’.
There are many such systems abound the Lost Realms zone… again there’s no direct link for these, they weren’t mentioned in Holdstocks work, but I suspect they were intentionally inserted to draw our attention to that zone - not away…because of their shared context, if it were so due to the proliferation in the Lost Realm zone I would expect to see a very obvious path away towards Delphi, but I have not of late (except for Fintan and the Mealstroms!).
It doesn’t mean that’s not so!
The following diagram shows the Mealstroms encompassing the bubble, the systems shown are those attributed to the Lost Realms. The direction of Delphi is shown, and I’ve overlaid all Gen ships in this general area.
This is the same series of systems but viewed overhead from galactic north. Note there really isn’t anything pointing us to Delphi, that we know of, the Mealstroms don’t really line up perfectly with Delphi.
My assessment is we are NOT being directed away from the bubble. Everything within the Codex which I’ve ascribed so far would logically pull our attention towards the Lost Realms area. Delphi very likely was a clue, to look for an axis mundi and a world tree?
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I'm in Maia now, I'll target Yggradasil system in about 300k ly