Darkwheel reputation loss on killing thargoids???? lol
The Quest To Find Raxxla
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If so then that's quite interesting. Is that all you were doing at the time?
Can't see any lore reason why SD-TDW would support goids...
But if (as Premonition told us) they're a front & not the real TDW, & real TDW are a faction of PF & who may "quietly shut down TDW imposters", and you get allied with "PilotsFederation" faction via burning station rescue missions or Thargoid kills, then perhaps part of the Raxxla storyline is to adversely affect SD-TDW?? Is this the codex's test of skill to join TDW?
Exactly!
If the signal were intended to represent energy leakage through the Omphalos Rift so that you could locate it and pass through it to Raxxla but you can't locate it to a system (which seems to be the only place we can FSD jump from/to) then it can't be related and is likely just flavour/obfuscation...
The only proviso to that is perhaps if it is "located" in hyperspace and you need to pass through it by jumping between systems either side of it...
Oops. just thought if another proviso - the player journal file permits a system to be constructed from a main star plus optional other bodies. And section 15.2 allows that star to be one of the types we usually see, plus BH and Neutron stars, but also allows for an Exotic Star or a Rogue Planet...so perhaps that's what you're looking for. In which case I'd expect you to have to get close to it then investigate the nearby systems listed in your nav panel-perhaps it's only detected & listed at close range, and may not show in galmap.
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Thinking back on the cosmological model.
I’m speculative that MB seeded a number of clues into various posts, in particularly I keep coming back to this idea.
Here there is the repeated concept of Heavens gate, with the almost exact design being utilised in both his book/tattoo design and his shield design. What draws me towards this is the insinuation of a St. Michael guarding those gates.
I do wonder if this is what was implied in the Brookes Tours.
I think this ties back into the plot line of Paradise lost and the location of the Pendant Jewel, which might hang below heavens gate.
I think we have to try and not get too specific here, because academically there are multiple interpretations of where said pendant jewel exists, off the West wall; off the East wall; off the North East; directly below the gate or just below it but to the north etc.
I do wonder which interpretation was utilised. In game I’m aware that the Greek Wind compass does correlate with all my findings, part of me wonders why certain aspects of it are missing, maybe it’s intentional.
Nevertheless, in these images I believe MB is referring to St. Micheal with the burning sword, or as the Guardian defeating the serpent.
What locations in game could this tie-in to?
Again ‘tin-foil’ moment:
What if - the Codex is referring to Legacy; what if Legacy is not important because of the children’s story, but rather that’s just a metaphorical reference to read Legacy.
“The Beaumont system was a frontier world far below Achenar.” Elite Legacy.
Far below Achenar is a system called Michel (French for Michael) and Sopedu - (Guardian of the East).
Above are my Lost Realms systems, which I still hold are what are referred to directly in the codex. Within that network there is the system Aztlan (mythical origin of the Aztecs - the seven caves), this borders the systems named are the cities of gold.
Notably this is also the home for the Orbis Starport ‘Tannhauser Gate’, a reference to the film Bladerunner, one of MB favourite films.
I am no theologian but I understand Saint Michael was charged with the care of the souls of Purgatory!
www.stdennis.ca
Could part of the puzzle be: go to the underworld, with eyes to see, behold within the lost realms of Eden, the gate, the cave, to the mountain of purgatory, follow the star lover upwards, spiralling around to reach the pendant jewel atop the mount omphalos, the system on the outer rim of Chaos, below the gates of heaven!
Those with eyes to see - the beautiful mountain
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/the-quest-to-find-raxxla.168253/post-10401231
Those with eyes to see - The Journey to the pagan underworld to the fairy kingdom
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/the-quest-to-find-raxxla.168253/post-10342908
Source: https://youtu.be/JdUq2opPY-Q
I’m speculative that MB seeded a number of clues into various posts, in particularly I keep coming back to this idea.
Here there is the repeated concept of Heavens gate, with the almost exact design being utilised in both his book/tattoo design and his shield design. What draws me towards this is the insinuation of a St. Michael guarding those gates.
I do wonder if this is what was implied in the Brookes Tours.
I think this ties back into the plot line of Paradise lost and the location of the Pendant Jewel, which might hang below heavens gate.
I think we have to try and not get too specific here, because academically there are multiple interpretations of where said pendant jewel exists, off the West wall; off the East wall; off the North East; directly below the gate or just below it but to the north etc.
I do wonder which interpretation was utilised. In game I’m aware that the Greek Wind compass does correlate with all my findings, part of me wonders why certain aspects of it are missing, maybe it’s intentional.
Nevertheless, in these images I believe MB is referring to St. Micheal with the burning sword, or as the Guardian defeating the serpent.
What locations in game could this tie-in to?
Again ‘tin-foil’ moment:
What if - the Codex is referring to Legacy; what if Legacy is not important because of the children’s story, but rather that’s just a metaphorical reference to read Legacy.
“The Beaumont system was a frontier world far below Achenar.” Elite Legacy.
Far below Achenar is a system called Michel (French for Michael) and Sopedu - (Guardian of the East).
Above are my Lost Realms systems, which I still hold are what are referred to directly in the codex. Within that network there is the system Aztlan (mythical origin of the Aztecs - the seven caves), this borders the systems named are the cities of gold.
Notably this is also the home for the Orbis Starport ‘Tannhauser Gate’, a reference to the film Bladerunner, one of MB favourite films.
I am no theologian but I understand Saint Michael was charged with the care of the souls of Purgatory!
St. Michael — Angel of Purgatory — St. Dennis Parish
Purgatory is a place of waiting and of suffering, where souls, torn from the body they once animated, complete the purification necessary to satisfy their last debts to the justice of God. It is there that the soul yet unworthy to enjoy the Beatific vision descends, and it descends sadly. It has see
www.stdennis.ca
Could part of the puzzle be: go to the underworld, with eyes to see, behold within the lost realms of Eden, the gate, the cave, to the mountain of purgatory, follow the star lover upwards, spiralling around to reach the pendant jewel atop the mount omphalos, the system on the outer rim of Chaos, below the gates of heaven!
Those with eyes to see - the beautiful mountain
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/the-quest-to-find-raxxla.168253/post-10401231
Those with eyes to see - The Journey to the pagan underworld to the fairy kingdom
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/the-quest-to-find-raxxla.168253/post-10342908
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Did you join the fight every time?
Agreed, and I don't necessarily mean meddling with the journey itself, but, like they did with the codex update, I wonder if it's time to slip in another rumour somewhere in the game. Something to help subtly frame a better understanding of what it is and is not.
The only reason I'm thinking this is because the PP2.0 update will likely introduce a lot of new elements to sift through with a nanoscopic filter.
Legacy and Blade Runner share the same theme of uprising against oppressive superpowers.
If Raxxla is a journey we must all follow for ourselves - in this context it would make sense that MB is telling us to follow the same narrative arc as Legacy in some way.
Let's say the Beaumont system is Michel. This could act as an underworld starting point (like Freeholm was), then there could be a pattern of actions such as pirating NPCs to act as the "uprising" element. Maybe that triggers something.
Then we progress through a series of tests (circles of hell themed) to move towards Raxxla.
Well I've read Legacy several times and the one thing I get out of it is that Raxxla is in Alliance space, which is far removed from Achenar.Thinking back on the cosmological model.
I’m speculative that MB seeded a number of clues into various posts, in particularly I keep coming back to this idea.
Here there is the repeated concept of Heavens gate, with the almost exact design being utilised in both his book/tattoo design and his shield design. What draws me towards this is the insinuation of a St. Michael guarding those gates.
I do wonder if this is what was implied in the Brookes Tours.
I think this ties back into the plot line of Paradise lost and the location of the Pendant Jewel, which might hang below heavens gate.
I think we have to try and not get too specific here, because academically there are multiple interpretations of where said pendant jewel exists, off the West wall; off the East wall; off the North East; directly below the gate or just below it but to the north etc.
I do wonder which interpretation was utilised. In game I’m aware that the Greek Wind compass does correlate with all my findings, part of me wonders why certain aspects of it are missing, maybe it’s intentional.
Nevertheless, in these images I believe MB is referring to St. Micheal with the burning sword, or as the Guardian defeating the serpent.
What locations in game could this tie-in to?
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Again ‘tin-foil’ moment:
What if - the Codex is referring to Legacy; what if Legacy is not important because of the children’s story, but rather that’s just a metaphorical reference to read Legacy.
“The Beaumont system was a frontier world far below Achenar.” Elite Legacy.
Far below Achenar is a system called Michel (French for Michael) and Sopedu - (Guardian of the East).
Above are my Lost Realms systems, which I still hold are what are referred to directly in the codex. Within that network there is the system Aztlan (mythical origin of the Aztecs - the seven caves), this borders the systems named are the cities of gold.
Notably this is also the home for the Orbis Starport ‘Tannhauser Gate’, a reference to the film Bladerunner, one of MB favourite films.
I am no theologian but I understand Saint Michael was charged with the care of the souls of Purgatory!
St. Michael — Angel of Purgatory — St. Dennis Parish
Purgatory is a place of waiting and of suffering, where souls, torn from the body they once animated, complete the purification necessary to satisfy their last debts to the justice of God. It is there that the soul yet unworthy to enjoy the Beatific vision descends, and it descends sadly. It has see
Could part of the puzzle be: go to the underworld, with eyes to see, behold within the lost realms of Eden, the gate, the cave, to the mountain of purgatory, follow the star lover upwards, spiralling around to reach the pendant jewel atop the mount omphalos, the system on the outer rim of Chaos, below the gates of heaven!
Those with eyes to see - the beautiful mountain
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/the-quest-to-find-raxxla.168253/post-10401231
Those with eyes to see - The Journey to the pagan underworld to the fairy kingdom
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/the-quest-to-find-raxxla.168253/post-10342908
Source: https://youtu.be/JdUq2opPY-Q
Well there in lies the rub, in Legacy of all the locations named, Beaumont is the only one not in game, and Achenar out of the primary systems named is the furthest removed, that is odd. Still there was at least one other system named, that was furthest removed, and that was much higher up!
Legacy systems shown in green.
Legacy systems overlaid with the systems: Norse Norns, Greek Fates and (highest) ‘Fortune’. Note how the furthest Legacy system is upon a similar alignment to the Fortunes and the Thetis signal, but still too far removed.
There’s also mention of a Ross 629, which likewise is not in game!
I only draw upon Beaumont because of the strange fulcrum it ought to share being in the same area as the Lost Realms and the underworld.
Alliance space Would be the logical choice, it ties in with the Trinkets too likely!
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So a question is; does this represent a 4 body system; a 2 body system (with two moons); a 5 body system etc, etc, etc!
Map legends please FD,,,?
As with the DW codex I do suspect FD have tried to narrow down the search by providing some information, but such is still widely interpretational.
These are the questions I think we ought to be asking FD, not more clues please, but reduce the obfuscation @Paul_Crowther?
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As I was pondering the question I had an epiphany.
The common aspect of the garden is the water.
In the left "Milton cosmos" circle, the water depicts Hell.
So by that association, the other two ponds could also represent some aspect of Hell.
Therefore what could the other two aspects represent? peering into Hell? Dante's inferno? or Milton's?.
Then I wonder if the idea of Hell in game is linking back to Jaques. Could the system where the Battle of Hell's Gate be what this map is representing?
Jaques' "fall" moment was his capture by Imperials - thereafter 'tormented' by his cybernetic augmentations, enslaved by the genetic disease, the legal battle over him between the superpowers, and forced to do hard labour to repay debts. Not to mention literally losing his mind and legs in an accident.
Back to the map:
The ten lights could represent Dante's Malebolge - the ten ditches of the Malebolge
Long causeway bridges run from the outer circumference of Malebolge to its center, pictured as spokes on a wheel. At the center of Malebolge is the ninth and final circle of hell, known as Cocytus.
The common aspect of the garden is the water.
In the left "Milton cosmos" circle, the water depicts Hell.
So by that association, the other two ponds could also represent some aspect of Hell.
Therefore what could the other two aspects represent? peering into Hell? Dante's inferno? or Milton's?.
Then I wonder if the idea of Hell in game is linking back to Jaques. Could the system where the Battle of Hell's Gate be what this map is representing?
Jaques' "fall" moment was his capture by Imperials - thereafter 'tormented' by his cybernetic augmentations, enslaved by the genetic disease, the legal battle over him between the superpowers, and forced to do hard labour to repay debts. Not to mention literally losing his mind and legs in an accident.
Back to the map:
The ten lights could represent Dante's Malebolge - the ten ditches of the Malebolge
Long causeway bridges run from the outer circumference of Malebolge to its center, pictured as spokes on a wheel. At the center of Malebolge is the ninth and final circle of hell, known as Cocytus.
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Any good map ought to have a legend, to allow you to quickly orientate oneself, but failing that, said design ought to also be relatable in general, something that is comparable.
Nevertheless it provides us some context in that it’s a system with a limited number of bodies!
If it were for instance, only 2 bodies, 1 being a ringed then this drastically reduces the probability of finding it as we can now use 3rd party maps to weed out a large proportion?
I suspect we know from the design (if correct) that that general location is at the boundary of Chaos, it being very likely I suspect, close to or around Thetis.
The point of the design ultimately should be to allow us to quickly identify the system visually…
Any good map ought to have a legend, to allow you to quickly orientate oneself, but failing that, said design ought to also be relatable in general, something that is comparable.
Nevertheless it provides us some context in that it’s a system with a limited number of bodies!
If it were for instance, only 2 bodies, 1 being a ringed then this drastically reduces the probability of finding it as we can now use 3rd party maps to weed out a large proportion?
I suspect we know from the design (if correct) that that general location is at the boundary of Chaos, it being very likely I suspect, close to or around Thetis.
The point of the design ultimately should be to allow us to quickly identify the system visually…
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That would be simpler, but it wouldn't be that difficult to search for all systems containing a particular five-body configuration as well.
I've got a full 3rd-party body list - and that should be entirely accurate when it comes to "planets within/adjacent to the bubble" - so if you can describe a search area and what configuration to look for I can probably get you a list of candidates fairly quickly.
I agree. The search ought to be for a system with at least one ringed body in a system with at most 5 bodies?
I currently suspect the apex of the Miltonian model is around Thetis, based upon my assessment of other systems which seem to correlate. So said system should be within a certain radius from there?
This theory is one of my go-to objectives, which I’ve still not had time to fully explore, as I tend to get distracted…
Currently attempting to obtain some trinkets… before that, spent far too long looking for mysterious (probably) fictitious mountains!
In addition to this, this hypothetical axis is also very close to the system Olorun, which is named after the Yoruba god of the sky. This is interesting because the Yoruba creation myth utilises a mythos involving a ‘golden chain’ much like in Paradise Lost, which linked the upper realm to the Earth.
In addition, equally odd is how Amun likewise falls directly upon the outer rim of the ‘signal radius, from Thetis!
This is too much of a coincidence!
I think maybe I need to refocus and go back here and try and resolve to exploring that whole area in more depth, I think I’ve exhausted my patience on Beaumont.
A bridge to the Empyrean?
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/the-quest-to-find-raxxla.168253/post-10304929
I currently suspect the apex of the Miltonian model is around Thetis, based upon my assessment of other systems which seem to correlate. So said system should be within a certain radius from there?
This theory is one of my go-to objectives, which I’ve still not had time to fully explore, as I tend to get distracted…
Currently attempting to obtain some trinkets… before that, spent far too long looking for mysterious (probably) fictitious mountains!
In addition to this, this hypothetical axis is also very close to the system Olorun, which is named after the Yoruba god of the sky. This is interesting because the Yoruba creation myth utilises a mythos involving a ‘golden chain’ much like in Paradise Lost, which linked the upper realm to the Earth.
In addition, equally odd is how Amun likewise falls directly upon the outer rim of the ‘signal radius, from Thetis!
This is too much of a coincidence!
I think maybe I need to refocus and go back here and try and resolve to exploring that whole area in more depth, I think I’ve exhausted my patience on Beaumont.
A bridge to the Empyrean?
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/the-quest-to-find-raxxla.168253/post-10304929
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Currently have 39 TOHF's for sale on my carrier Silent Sphere Song, see my sig for location.
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And a freshly carved out Basilisk Thargoid Heart courtesy Goid Ender...
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Picking a rough 50LY radius from Thetis, systems with 5 or fewer bodies (planets or moons), at least one body ringed:
Beta Pictoris *
9 G. Carinae *, +
LTT 2513
BPM 72493 *, +
LAWD 27
Niu Bese
StKM 1-442 *
Pichanto
Dyindumasci
Hakkaia
*: still has five or fewer bodies if stars are also counted
+: two or fewer bodies, counting planets and moons only (though in 9 G. Carinae the rings are around a Y-dwarf star)
Beta Pictoris *
9 G. Carinae *, +
LTT 2513
BPM 72493 *, +
LAWD 27
Niu Bese
StKM 1-442 *
Pichanto
Dyindumasci
Hakkaia
*: still has five or fewer bodies if stars are also counted
+: two or fewer bodies, counting planets and moons only (though in 9 G. Carinae the rings are around a Y-dwarf star)
OK.. this next part is going to cook your noodle. I have no idea why I did not try this before!
Incoming…
Post in thread 'The Quest To Find Raxxla'
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/the-quest-to-find-raxxla.168253/post-10433684
Incoming…
Post in thread 'The Quest To Find Raxxla'
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/the-quest-to-find-raxxla.168253/post-10433684
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Examined:
Beta Pictoris, all belt clusters, HazRes
9 G. Carinae , all belt clusters visited, rings at 9 G. Carinae 1 surfaced scanned.
LTT 2513: All four belt clusters, ring at LTT 2513 4 (Impossible task to look at every rock, just took a short flyby at a random place)
BPM 72493: All five belt clusters, ring at BPM 72493 1. Bromelite & Alexandrite hotspot.
LAWD 27, Examined belt cluster 1 & 2, unable to get near belt cluster 3 (too close and exit to normal space). LAWD 27 4: Double Void Opal Hotspot.
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hi, any chance you can save 1 'Trinket' for me? i can't get back online EliteD until later tonite. Also, how much are you selling them for? And what system is your FC located? ( i can't check your link at the moment sorry! )