I havent yet, but I intend to try next time I'm on. I have the sensor. I've spent a couple of hours today trying to find a trinket of hidden fortune to take as well, but its looking like i could spend a few years searching and never find one
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I havent yet, but I intend to try next time I'm on. I have the sensor. I've spent a couple of hours today trying to find a trinket of hidden fortune to take as well, but its looking like i could spend a few years searching and never find one
ok cool , i've been planning the same cuz who knows what parameter ends up solving this 10 year old 1800 page mystery for the Community
i'm pretty sure i have an extra 'Trinket' on my FC i'd be happy to give you for your efforts, but i think you said earlier in the thread PC players like me can't trade/give items to Console players? ( different platforms & all that )
we live on different versions of the galaxy. I used to post all the ELWs I found, til I found out anyone on a PC could just go straight to them and claim them. felt a little aggrieved and spat the dummy
The Quest To Find Raxxla
I've heard these mentioned but I have never in 3? 4? Years plying ever seen them in game? You get TOHF from trader ships (IIRC I had most success with Adders) through pirating them- you need a reasonably fast well-armed & Shielded ship with cargo space, manifest scanner and a point Defence...
The way to do it is to drop out & hang around at the nav beacon of an anarchy. Cargo scan ships (particularly trader ships, Adders, Type 8, etc) as they head towards/away from the star for fuel scooping. Play some enjoyable background music as you'll be at it for around an hour ( the normal spawn rate for TOHF carrying ships) or more. If you dont find them be prepared to move systems.
Once youve found a target ship get close (preferably away from the pirate shark pack circling the nav beacon) and fire off a hatch breaker limpet. Repeat (their pds will destroy your HB) until TOHF are dropped, then open cargo scoop & quickly scoop in or use collector limpets to gather them in, close the cargo scoop & hightail out. It can be frustrating gameplay as the spawn rate is quite low and then the oher pirates will gather the trinkets, including using hatchbreakers against you, hence have at least one pds yourself. An alternative is to wait away from the nav beacon to intercept traders as they drop out of SC, but that location is fairly random
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Yeah I scanned maybe 50 ships in 3 anarchy systems and found lots of biowaste, rebel plans and limpets but not a single tohf so I do think it's going to be a long job
Last time I got some in Lang Wang after trying three other systems, but I think its random where & when, they're very rare, which makes me think theyre valuable for something...after all they are illegal everywhere! With no good reason...the deacription is "This container appears to hold an assorted collection of low-value trinkets, knick-knacks and statuettes. Such trinkets are generally used by superstitious pilots to try and win favour with the lady Fortuna. However, these particular knick-knacks have a much more valuable prize hidden within"...so what's somvaluable hidden within? You cant open them, or breakm by gunfire to release the contents...
They used to be more common in three systems. Two are way out of the bubble (Thor's Helmet Sector FB-X C1-5 and Seagull Sector DL-Y D3), the other was Plendovii but the latter is not an anarchy so you'd get a bounty for piracy.
They used to be more common in three systems. Two are way out of the bubble (Thor's Helmet Sector FB-X C1-5 and Seagull Sector DL-Y D3), the other was Plendovii but the latter is not an anarchy so you'd get a bounty for piracy.
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It wasn't a topic in that lore book draft.
Shinrarta Dezra was named by the person who had the KS reward to name the Founder's World.
Thanks for the clarification Allen, Ive deleted the line about the lore book
@Allen Stroud would you be able to elaborate upon what was considered or established in game, about Randomius Factoria and or Fortuna?
Or could you provide some insight into the contextual links for Fortuna in the works of Robert Holdstock, and why he referred to her in the work, in respect to his wider concepts?
It’s evident some work was incorporated into the game, in respect to the Trinkets of hidden fortune, and these have some locational ties to certain systems, possibly in name or mythology only, but FD has confirmed, the story they were originally tied to was ultimately removed.
There’s obvious reference to Randomius Factoria directly in game, but I suspect that was a separate story thread by another author of whom I have no interest in.
So I’d like to understand the Trinkets wider context, because these elements oddly still exist and operate in game, so it’s possible they continue to perform some ‘environmental’ aspect, of a larger locational concept concerning the ‘fates’ and ‘norns’, in particular a specific location Im currently attempting to peace together in respect to the storyline about the Nemb megaship at LP 892-51.
“Well the way those pirate ripped the ship apart, it was more than some rare old trinkets”.
Nemb is interesting because unlike many objects or locations in game, the word has no meaning nor real life origin I can establish?
Locationally Nemb is very close to the system Atropos, the eldest of the three Fates, or Moirai, in Greek mythology.
I find that very interesting…
Love the new Holdstock book by the way.
Or could you provide some insight into the contextual links for Fortuna in the works of Robert Holdstock, and why he referred to her in the work, in respect to his wider concepts?
It’s evident some work was incorporated into the game, in respect to the Trinkets of hidden fortune, and these have some locational ties to certain systems, possibly in name or mythology only, but FD has confirmed, the story they were originally tied to was ultimately removed.
There’s obvious reference to Randomius Factoria directly in game, but I suspect that was a separate story thread by another author of whom I have no interest in.
So I’d like to understand the Trinkets wider context, because these elements oddly still exist and operate in game, so it’s possible they continue to perform some ‘environmental’ aspect, of a larger locational concept concerning the ‘fates’ and ‘norns’, in particular a specific location Im currently attempting to peace together in respect to the storyline about the Nemb megaship at LP 892-51.
“Well the way those pirate ripped the ship apart, it was more than some rare old trinkets”.
Nemb is interesting because unlike many objects or locations in game, the word has no meaning nor real life origin I can establish?
Locationally Nemb is very close to the system Atropos, the eldest of the three Fates, or Moirai, in Greek mythology.
I find that very interesting…
Love the new Holdstock book by the way.
Heartwood: A Mythago Wood Anthology [trade paperback] Edited by Dan Coxon
AN ANTHOLOGY edited by Dan Coxon PUBLICATION DATE August 2024 COVER AT INTERIOR ILLUSTRATION Vince Haig INTRODUCTION Michael Moorcock PAGES 484 ISBN
pspublishing.co.uk
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Lady Fortuna mythology (not conclusive)
Fortuna (in game) is similar in aspect or at least equivalent to the Greek Tyche (in game); and one of her epithets or surnames as Automatia.
Tyche manages fate according to her own will, without any regard to the merit of man.
‘Automatic’ in Greek (αὐτόματος) means "what is self-willed” but also “to what is not willed”. Tykhe had a number of alternative cult titles (not in game).
Fortuna is a Roman goddess of fortune and luck whose popularity continued on throughout into the Middle Ages. Her common concept being that luck is blind and capricious, highlighting how there was no method of control over destiny, or life, advocating a passion for life or living in the moment.
The capricious Fortuna, was often depicted with the Wheel of Fortune or Rota Fortunae, which spins at random.
The earliest conceptions in both the Roman and Greek involve not a two-dimensional wheel but a three-dimensional sphere, a metaphor for the world or zodiac.
Fortuna (in game) is similar in aspect or at least equivalent to the Greek Tyche (in game); and one of her epithets or surnames as Automatia.
Tyche manages fate according to her own will, without any regard to the merit of man.
‘Automatic’ in Greek (αὐτόματος) means "what is self-willed” but also “to what is not willed”. Tykhe had a number of alternative cult titles (not in game).
Fortuna is a Roman goddess of fortune and luck whose popularity continued on throughout into the Middle Ages. Her common concept being that luck is blind and capricious, highlighting how there was no method of control over destiny, or life, advocating a passion for life or living in the moment.
The capricious Fortuna, was often depicted with the Wheel of Fortune or Rota Fortunae, which spins at random.
The earliest conceptions in both the Roman and Greek involve not a two-dimensional wheel but a three-dimensional sphere, a metaphor for the world or zodiac.
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@filthymick420 has kindly donated some trinkets so next time I'm online I'll try flying to the centre with both trinkets and thargoid sensor, and I'll try scanning the sensor and see what if anything happens. In other news, I've ordered a playstation hotas so i can practice pc controls. I've also been in touch with FDEV. Early in the new year I'm going to close down the console account and make the leap to odyssey. wish me luck, I'm sure it will be as traumatic as finding raxxla. lol
@Allen Stroud would you be able to elaborate upon what was considered or established in game, about Randomius Factoria and or Fortuna?
Love the new Holdstock book by the way.
Heartwood: A Mythago Wood Anthology [trade paperback] Edited by Dan Coxon
AN ANTHOLOGY edited by Dan Coxon PUBLICATION DATE August 2024 COVER AT INTERIOR ILLUSTRATION Vince Haig INTRODUCTION Michael Moorcock PAGES 484 ISBNpspublishing.co.uk
Thanks. Heartwood has sold out several times and been reprinted, which is great. PS Publishing just sent me my slipcase edition. It's absolutely gorgeous.
The list of authors involved is stellar, plus little old me.
Randomius Factoria. I recall this being something I arrived fairly late to as a concept. I think Dave Hughes had done a little work developing the theology in some early drafts of his ideas. The initial concept felt a bit 'Ian Bell' to me, in that when you look at a lot of the earlier background, the Ian Bell stuff was often the less serious stuff. That said, when I researched in a bit more detail I realised I was mistaken in judging it as a comedy Warhammer theme for the Elite Universe or solely as a satire on procedural generation. Interesting to note that there is A LOT of explorations of Fate, Randomness, etc during the 1980s in a variety of SF Fantasy franchises.
The extract below is straight out of the Lave Guidebook, which was a compilation I did for my own story work. It came from the revised version of the Old Worlds draft. Looking at the tracked changes, I think this was a light edit of Dave's initial entry. His draft in the older file contains a note linking it to the Holdstock source in The Dark Wheel.
This section found it's way into the appendices of Lave Revolution in the second edition copy.
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I'm 1/2 way through the journey, and along the way have identified and found:
-Mother of Galaxies
-The jewel that burns on the brow
-The whisperer in witchspace
-The siren of the deepest void
I was able able to identify the parent's grief and lover's woe but haven't gotten there yet. It all neatly fits, matches the hidden info in the Raxxla logo and enlightens the story of a famous UK astronomer. Enjoying it very much.
-Mother of Galaxies
-The jewel that burns on the brow
-The whisperer in witchspace
-The siren of the deepest void
I was able able to identify the parent's grief and lover's woe but haven't gotten there yet. It all neatly fits, matches the hidden info in the Raxxla logo and enlightens the story of a famous UK astronomer. Enjoying it very much.
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I was wondering, what is your guess on the first line of the alleged toast of the Dark Wheel? "To the jewel that burns on the brow of the mother of galaxies".
For me it's clearly referring to Cassiopeia, the mother of Andromeda (which is a galaxy). From the stars in Cassiopeia the ones I suspect more are Sigma Cas and AO Cas.
Sigma shows in the forehead (brow) of Cassiopeia in the app "Star Walk 2", and there's also an article about Sigma which describes it as "The Smalt Blue Jewel". But in the same article they claim the start is on Cassiopeia's shoulder, not her brow.
As for AO Cas it shows in the head of Cassiopeia on the Stellarium website (although not exactly on the forehead). And it's one of the brightest stars in the constellation.
What is your guess for this part of the toast?
For me it's clearly referring to Cassiopeia, the mother of Andromeda (which is a galaxy). From the stars in Cassiopeia the ones I suspect more are Sigma Cas and AO Cas.
Sigma shows in the forehead (brow) of Cassiopeia in the app "Star Walk 2", and there's also an article about Sigma which describes it as "The Smalt Blue Jewel". But in the same article they claim the start is on Cassiopeia's shoulder, not her brow.
As for AO Cas it shows in the head of Cassiopeia on the Stellarium website (although not exactly on the forehead). And it's one of the brightest stars in the constellation.
What is your guess for this part of the toast?
lol, was just asking about this. What are you theories on all of those? If you don't mind sharing.
most are prose way of describing an astronomical body but with a double meaning. For instance the mother of galaxies is both a person and an astronomical body. Its more than I care to write here, so if you catch me live I'll explain a bunch but not all of it.
Things are really settling into place and I should be getting close to the end. My question is if/when I find it, should it be posted? Even posting the answer to the first line of the TDW toast could ruin the whole thing.
Waypoints I'm willing to share:
- LGM-1
- Crab Pulsar
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‘His spread wings, at leisure to behold. Far off the empyreal heaven, extended wide. In circuit, undetermined square or round. With opal towers and battlements adorned. Of living sapphire, once his native seat.
And fast by hanging in a golden chain. This pendent world, in bigness as a star. Of smallest magnitude close by the moon.Thither full fraught with mischievous revenge. Accurst, and in a cursèd hour he hies’
John Milton Paradise Lost.
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Thanks. Heartwood has sold out several times and been reprinted, which is great. PS Publishing just sent me my slipcase edition. It's absolutely gorgeous.
The list of authors involved is stellar, plus little old me.
Randomius Factoria. I recall this being something I arrived fairly late to as a concept. I think Dave Hughes had done a little work developing the theology in some early drafts of his ideas. The initial concept felt a bit 'Ian Bell' to me, in that when you look at a lot of the earlier background, the Ian Bell stuff was often the less serious stuff. That said, when I researched in a bit more detail I realised I was mistaken in judging it as a comedy Warhammer theme for the Elite Universe or solely as a satire on procedural generation. Interesting to note that there is A LOT of explorations of Fate, Randomness, etc during the 1980s in a variety of SF Fantasy franchises.
The extract below is straight out of the Lave Guidebook, which was a compilation I did for my own story work. It came from the revised version of the Old Worlds draft. Looking at the tracked changes, I think this was a light edit of Dave's initial entry. His draft in the older file contains a note linking it to the Holdstock source in The Dark Wheel.
This section found it's way into the appendices of Lave Revolution in the second edition copy.
Yes the link evidently then is a direct homage to Holdstocks Dark Wheel.
‘Elyssia 'What god or goddess do you believe in?' 'Randomius Factoria . . .' Alex muttered. 'Me too . . .' They looked at each other. Alex laughed and said, 'Repeat after me: Lady of Fate, we adore you . . . ' 'Get us to Rafe's, we implore you . . .' From The Dark Wheel (chapter 3).
The phrase ‘Randomius Factoria’ doesn't actual have any direct translation from the Latin, namely it being a type of pseudo-Latin, in English it likely would be something like ‘random’ ‘factual’ or something, so to me it felt like a joke initially, rather 80s!
The Greek and Roman cults for Fortuna, have a more logical historical context, and there’s a lineage of the name back to Homer and the Odyssey too.
So yes my initial interpretation was somewhat very similar. Historically then in regards to ED lore it’s something which could be ascribed to the earliest days of exploration?
There is evidence to suspect there is a potential fulcrum associated with various systems that are associated?
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TYCHE CULT - Ancient Greek Religion
Tyche was the ancient Greek goddess of good fortune. She was usually worshipped as the guardian spirit of a city's good fortune and her cult was fairly widespread. In this guise she was depicted with a turret-crown representing the city's walls and a horn of plenty brimming with the fruits of...
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