Really? I thought they just arrived in 'empty' space with nothing visible. News to me! Then again I've not got the best memory...

That's as I remember it too. If the star could be there then the rest of the bodies could too, presumably.
 
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Heres my take, from what I've gathered.

"Whisperer in witchspace, Siren of the deepest void"

The constellation Lyra: "The constellation is associated with the myth of the Greek musician and poet Orpheus. Lyra constellation lies in the northern sky. It represents the lyre, a musical instrument with strings used in antiquity and later times."

"Without Orpheus and his music, the Argonauts would not have been able to make it past the Sirens, whose song enticed sailors to come to them, which usually resulted in sailors crashing their ships into the islands on which the Sirens lived. When the Argonauts approached the islands, Orpheus drew his lyre and played music that drowned out the Sirens’ calls."

https://www.constellation-guide.com/constellation-list/lyra-constellation/ and theres the listing of the stars aswell.

Kinda makes you wonder, since they stay that Raxxla is somewhere near SOL.

-T

Lyra is indeed an intresting idea, but which star?
Also, there were several individual names for Sirens in Greek mythology, maybe some of them will ring a bell?

Thelxinoe or Thelxiope or Thelxiepia or Thelxiepe or Thelxiepeia
Aglaophonus or Aglaope or Aglaopheme
Molpe
Aglaonoe
Parthenope
Leucosia
Ligeia
Peisinoe or Pisinoe
Himerope

My guess would be - it's the second star in the pattern we need to visit after the first one, which is "Jewel that burns on the brow of the mother of galaxies"
(but that's just my take on the path to raxxla - visiting a series of correct stars)
 
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I know I read somewhere that MB said that Raxxla was in the bubble right? But the bigger question is did he mean the "human" bubble or...get this...THE BUBBLE NEBULA! DUN-DUN-DUNNNN!!!
 
What happened to the 'heart and soul' (nebula) part of the riddle? I'm there now. Do I look for a 8th moon around here?
 
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OK here is all I have currently. My theory is we're not supposed to visit each star but rather trace them in the sky, locate the correct stars and...where that leads I haven't got the foggiest.

But I'm trying not to over-think this. Its possible all this is just pareidolia.

Either way its been a hoot reading these posts and going over old mythology.

"To the jewel that burns on the brow of the mother of galaxies" Cassiopeia.

"To the whisperer of whichspace"
Pheme - the whisper (in constellation of Perseus).

The siren of the deepest void - hell/Hades, the sirens looked over Persephone before she was taken by Hades. Virgo

”parents Grief” Cepheus

“Lovers woe” Perseus

"Yearning of vagabond hearts" - Hermes protector of travellers and vagabonds. Or Odysseus who dressed as a vagabond when he returned to his wife Penelope. Who was beset by suitors who 'encircled her'...

Vulture and navel = Lyra / Cygnus link to north star by the Egyptian meridian line or naval. In mythology its thought Cygnus could be a bird of pray. There's also a tenuous link to Orion which was Osiris in Egyptian myth god of re-birth. The Orion theory places that the 3 pyramids of Giza have star chambers that point to Orions belt along the meridian line.

Tin-foil roll...depleated.
 
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The problem with tinfoil is...
"With four parameters I can fit an elephant, and with five I can make him wiggle his trunk." -- Attributed to von Neumann

The DW quote might be directions. On the other hand it might be a toast. (although it depends on the kind of author). Imagine the toast maker turning in a circle after toasting each stellar body. In which case you might be able to figure out where the toaster is... or not as the case may be.
Astrophel could be the first thing you find on google ... or .. it could be a children's story and since its not available in game it is not a clue at all.

For the practical minded player the only tangible clue is 2296 but since there is no gameplay that supports that route, we are left again with mythological elephant fitting.
 
I recommend going to Antares and take a look. :)

Well, whilst heading to Antares from the bubble, I stumbled across a listening post that wasn't listed on Cononn website. Got rather excited, but having visited it's companions and found the site, it was probably amongst the dullest there is. It's a crashed Conda (Trading Vessel MD-02 on HR 6051 2f). Found two logs there, both about survival tips. The logs say numbers /11, but can't find a trail or signals of any other wreckage nearby. Predicting a dead end again, back to check out Antares. Even though it really does sound like a lighting related bug.
 
Just adding my theory: my research was focused on the "omphalos" part and the relative myth about Zeus and the two eagles.

I tried to find in the sky the two eagles without any success, at least until i discovered that the Lyra constellation in the past was represented
as a lyre in front of an eagle.

So now we have the two eagles, if we prolonge a line from the two constellations, they will intercept in two points. Maybe we are lucky and Raxxla waits there
 
I've tested this on three different computers, with different graphics cards and drivers. Looks the same on all of them.

Looks the same in VR, as well.

It's a special feature they have put in. Just for you. ;-)

Edit: Have you listened to it?
 
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- The obfuscated area is not fixed on windshield, it follows your view.
- The cockpit and ship is litt by the starlight, even when the star is totally black.
- The effect is the same from all directions and does not seem to be limited in distance outward from the star.
- The effect is the same in external camera and when the ship is without power.

If this is active obfuscation(not a bug), it's either something that 'affects the pilots eyes' or it's the ship(and Remlock mask) that does it.

There are a few Galnet articles that may hint that this may be something real:
https://community.elitedangerous.com/en/galnet/uid/2d0472c6f8e7eee1966acb1f542cfb6a6689f379
https://community.elitedangerous.com/en/galnet/uid/cf45ee72bfc41c59770ace38773cca30c44f214a
https://community.elitedangerous.com/en/galnet/uid/577636439657babf44d2ca7d

Quick update, I can confirm I'm seeing the same thing. Currently sitting at 85,565ls from the star, and there is still a small area in field of view where the star is covered. Moving my head slightly at this distance does indeed reveal the star, and it works the same in camera view.

It is the same in normal space and supercruise, and if you turn off the hud and enter FSS, you see the same thing there.
 
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It's a special feature they have put in. Just for you. ;-)

Edit: Have you listened to it?

Have you overlay-ed it with the galmap? :p

It did not happen at Alpha Cygni. That one is only 116 solar radi, though. Antares is 380 solar radi. Almost the size of Rho Cass.

I forgot to mention, I did visit Rho Cas after 3.3 dropped, didn't encounter the visual bug then.
 
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Quick update, I can confirm I'm seeing the same thing. Currently sitting at 85,565ls from the star, and there is still a small area in field of view where the star is covered. Moving my head slightly at this distance does indeed reveal the star, and it works the same in camera view.

It is the same in normal space and supercruise, and if you turn off the hud and enter FSS, you see the same thing there.

There is a secondary effect as well. The light that hits the ship, does not come directly from the star.
If you use the external camera to look at the shadows inside the cockpit, you see that the light is of by up to about 60°.
At about 38,000 ls, the shadows lign up with the star.
The offset is not linear. It will increase and decrease, from 38,000 ls and out.
 
I really like the part about Tartarus being 'the deepest void' (and it is a system in ED). Whom would that make the siren, though? I read a little around Tartarus but I'm not sure.
 
Hello there,

i'm off to sleep so i won't be able to read answers until my lunch break tomorrow, but i couldn't resist asking the question directly here (sorry if it's already been investigated, i've only started replaying a bit in recent days and am outdated on many topics):

Is the "To the whisperer in witch-space, the siren of the deepest void!" part of the Raxxla codex entry something that was known beforehand? Because it sounds new to me and... it also sounds an awful lot like what is described in the messages left on Formidine Rift alpha site:

- "Could have sworn i heard some weird voices in the last jump" (message 2/6).
- "A siren song" (message 5/6).

Has it already been investigated/dismissed? I'm currently heading straight to the Zurara from FR delta site, after which i plan to go as far as i can into the void, following the Riedquat-Reorte axis
Should i look for something in particular while in the region? (i play by tiny bits on an irregular schedule)

Notes:

- i made sure i was allied with the Dark Wheel before i left the bubble, just in case some mission would pop up later.
- i'm currently flying on a multirole Conda equipped for exploration/mining with only a 50+Ly range, so i may not be able to access everything.

Thanks in advance :)
 
Well, whilst heading to Antares from the bubble, I stumbled across a listening post that wasn't listed on Cononn website. Got rather excited, but having visited it's companions and found the site, it was probably amongst the dullest there is. It's a crashed Conda (Trading Vessel MD-02 on HR 6051 2f). Found two logs there, both about survival tips. The logs say numbers /11, but can't find a trail or signals of any other wreckage nearby. Predicting a dead end again, back to check out Antares. Even though it really does sound like a lighting related bug.


Hi Spock
can you give me the details please & I’ll add them to my LP/UCB summary.
 
There is a secondary effect as well. The light that hits the ship, does not come directly from the star.
If you use the external camera to look at the shadows inside the cockpit, you see that the light is of by up to about 60°.
At about 38,000 ls, the shadows lign up with the star.
The offset is not linear. It will increase and decrease, from 38,000 ls and out.

Sounds like a bug rather than an intended feature. Have you raised a bug report to check the response?
 
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