The Quest To Find Raxxla

bluecrash

bluecrash
wetwire said:
Figured i would bring this up here as an odd coincidence that could raise further investigation.
While i was doing some Raxxla research with "Princess Astrophel and the Spiralling Stars" , "Omphalos Rift" and "Astrophel Stella" relationships
I took the information that Omphalos being Delphi. Plugged Delphi into Astrophel Stella which indicated it means Wisest Man, or something similar.
This led me to a passage in the book that i continued to focus on.
This passage notes Phoebos which has a direct relation to Apollo.
When i noticed Apollo was a system i figured i would head there and take a look to get started.
This is when i was given a random mission critical mission quest out of no where. With associated signal source in the system.
Upon investigating it turned out to be a simple fetch quest to collect 72 units of some type of oil and hand it in at the station nearby, but what interested me was it was for Elite Trader status only.
Having seen the rumors that Elite status was required to find Raxxla this raised my suspension.

So my question is, are the random missions biased on your current rank and is this a common event that just happened to show up while i was in the Apollo system?
Or is this a unique instance that warrants further investigation?
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cmdr shadowsun has written a whole interesting essay on these random elite missions and their relevance
 

Macros Black

Macros Black
I was asked 2 interesting questions about OLT3 in a PM, which I' replied to. Thought I'd also share my answer here.

Question: Must you get Allied with all factions on the benevolent list?
These are my assumptions/modus operandi: TDW gives missions to other factions which may or may not be secret local TDW brands. Getting Allied with these faction will, in theory, trigger the invite to the TDW dark station.

The good news is that I don't have far to go to be Allied with all on the 'good' list, the bad news is that I don't think TDW is done giving missions for other factions that must be added to the list.

Question: Are you looking for those specific missions in the not-so-benevolent list?
Whenever I go to Shinrarta Dezhra or LFT 926, I check the TDW missions and add benevolent & non-benevolent missions to the two lists. For now, I'm just doing the ranking for the factions that's in the benevolent list. If that doesn't provide any results, I'll consider getting hostile with the factions on the non-benevolent list and see if that changes anything.

Still a hail mary, tho :)
 

bluecrash

bluecrash
Macros Black said:
I was asked 2 interesting questions about OLT3 in a PM, which I' replied to. Thought I'd also share my answer here.

Question: Must you get Allied with all factions on the benevolent list?
These are my assumptions/modus operandi: TDW gives missions to other factions which may or may not be secret local TDW brands. Getting Allied with these faction will, in theory, trigger the invite to the TDW dark station.

The good news is that I don't have far to go to be Allied with all on the 'good' list, the bad news is that I don't think TDW is done giving missions for other factions that must be added to the list.

Question: Are you looking for those specific missions in the not-so-benevolent list?
Whenever I go to Shinrarta Dezhra or LFT 926, I check the TDW missions and add benevolent & non-benevolent missions to the two lists. For now, I'm just doing the ranking for the factions that's in the benevolent list. If that doesn't provide any results, I'll consider getting hostile with the factions on the non-benevolent list and see if that changes anything.

Still a hail mary, tho :)
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Could you post the current copy of the benevolent list?
 

Ian Doncaster

Ian Doncaster
While we're looking at Viginere ciphers, one extra thing I thought of was using other system names as the keyword. There are three matches of various qualities available there, all using "a" as the "leave unchanged" character.

Plaintext: Raxxla
Codeword: Mandii
Encoded: Dakati (could be Dakatipini system, though this would require the plaintext to actually be Raxxladiaf)

Plaintext: Capella
Codeword: Paita
Encoded: Raxxlaa (so close!)

Plaintext: Raxxla
Codeword: Yaur
Encoded: Paroja

The third one is the only really good match, of course. But could this be a clue in the style of Drew's Formidine Rift directions, stating that Yaur is "between" Raxxla and Paroja, so if you start from Paroja, then travel to Yaur, then keep going, you'll find Raxxla? (For a bonus coincidence, sure to get the less cautious rushing off immediately, check out who currently controls the Paroja system...)
 

Exocortex

E
Hey everyone. Long time lurker, first time poster. 👋

As I was reading the codex entry for Universal Cartographics last night, I happened to notice that the text has changed somewhat. Notably, "Omphalos Infotech" has been changed to "Unified Infotech". Has anyone else noticed this? Probably nothing, but then again... :unsure:
 

thebattlepope

T
I've been following up on the Astrophel and Stella angle mentioned in the Raxxla codex entry, and I'm currently investigating this verse:

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My mouth doth water, and my breast doth swell,My tongue doth itch, my thoughts in labor be:Listen then, lordings, with good ear to me,For of my life I must a riddle tell.

Toward Aurora's court a nymph doth dwell,Rich in all beauties which man's eye can see:Beauties so far from reach of words, that weAbase her praise, saying she doth excel:

Rich in the treasure of deserv'd renown,Rich in the riches of a royal heart,Rich in those gifts which give th'eternal crown;

Who though most rich in these and every part,Which make the patents of true worldly bliss,Hath no misfortune, but that Rich she is.
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It might be serious tinfoilery, but I'm currently investigating Eos. Why? Well, Aurora is Eos by a different name, and while, by "Aurora's abode" the author of the poem clearly just means "east", methinks it's worth a shot. The whole verse is interesting in the context of raxxla - you've got a mention of a riddle, nymphs (siren in the void or something to that effect, from the Raxxla toast), rich treasure, etc.

Here's where it gets interesting, yet - most likely - inconsequential. Eos has a gas giant with eight moons, and an orbital installation orbiting the eighth moon of said planet.

I'm operating on many assumptions here, chief amongst them: that the TDW is important to finding Raxxla, and that the codex entries on the TDW and Raxxla might be a little misleading, which might mean that the whole "eighth moon" thing might lead to a clue to the location of TDW, not TDW itself.

Haven't done much of anything with the installation just yet, and won't for a few hours, but if I find anything - I'll report back.

Also, the "east" angle might be worth looking into, although I have no idea what that might mean yet. East of what? Sol? Lave?
 

Han_Zen

Han_Zen
Exocortex said:
Hey everyone. Long time lurker, first time poster. 👋

As I was reading the codex entry for Universal Cartographics last night, I happened to notice that the text has changed somewhat. Notably, "Omphalos Infotech" has been changed to "Unified Infotech". Has anyone else noticed this? Probably nothing, but then again... :unsure:
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Good find. (y)
 

Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
Ian Doncaster said:
Aten is most plausibly in Elite Dangerous because it's the name of an ancient Egyptian deity - there are several other systems on that theme.
(This could also apply to Ra, which of the galaxy 1 systems in Elite Dangerous is a long way from the fairly tight cluster of the others, and therefore might also be a coincidental match)


To simplify, each system in the original game started out as a 4-byte number, which was used as the starting state of a basic (and not actually very good, since it it had to fit into 80s hardware) random number generator, and various operations on both the number itself and the output of the RNG were used to determine the system properties - including both name and position. So there is a connection between the name and position, but it's not one that you can use to go between the two: knowing the position doesn't give you enough information about the system's internal number to determine its name (and there are a few examples of systems occupying the exact same coordinates), while systems of the same name can be generated in different positions (check Inzaan and Inzaan in Galaxy 8, for example, or Xeer and Xeer in Galaxies 1 and 5) ... as I said, the Elite RNG wasn't actually all that random.

However, RAXXLA is not a possible name for a system in the original Elite, because names in that game are made up of digrams (letter pairs) and because of the formation of the LEXE string, all digrams consist of one of:
  • vowel then consonant
  • consonant then vowel
  • special case: the letter A alone (which is how systems with an odd number of letters are generated) represented as A' (A-apostrophe) in the LEXE string.
So LAVE = LA + VE, TIONISLA = TI + ON + IS + LA, and so on

RA and LA are valid digrams used in many original Elite system names - XX is not. So there's no way that you could "pick the right number" to get RAXXLA as a system in the original Elite.
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Mmm, so could the XX in Raxxla actually represent one of the permissible digrams? (e.g. RaVEla, RaTIla, RaONla........). What are the other permissible digrams? Does this fit with any known ED system name?


Oops, read the next page & see that I was ninjad, ignore me.
 
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Jager01

J
Hey guys, i did a bit of looking like someone else last night about the Omphalos rift part that is in the Codex. Now while it says that these stories are/were considered false i decided to dig into it a bit more considering from what i heard this is the first time that Omphalos was mentioned in regards to Raxxla.

Now first things first what i am saying to my knowledge has nothing to do with the Dark Wheel as it also mentions in the codex that there is a group that kills independent pilots and members of the Dark wheel that get to close to finding Raxxla, so while some of you believe they had control or found it i am actually looking at the possibility that they didn't.

Another note is that Drew mentioned in a stream that Raxxla was/believed to be originally in the first game so i am also looking into this case as well.

Now Omphalos is the greek word for religious Stone Artifact, it also means "navel". This is what many people have brought up and then dismissed this from what i've seen for Raxxla. However in Greek myth if you look into it was that is that it represents the stone that "Rhea" wrapped in swaddling clothes, pretending that it was Zeus in order to deceive Cronus who was the father that swallowed his children to prevent them from usurping him as he did his own father. The stone that represents this is located in Delphi, this is because Zeus was believed to have sent two eagles one west and one east around the world, These met at its center which was over Delphi or so greek lore says.

Rhea is a system in game (Might or might not have clues). Delphi is a system in game that has AEGIS Research as a faction in it. (Might or Might not have clues). Cronus "A star (HD 240430) was named after him in 2017 when it was reported to have swallowed its planets" i have not been in game to see if 1 this constellation is in game or if this system is or how close they are located to the bubble.

After this i came to a bit of a dead end at first from looking into Omphalos so i decided to look into the list of systems that D2EA found that the original game and this have in common. So far two have stood out to me as interesting.

First was Legees and its station called Stefanyshyn-Piper City now for a Australian i did not know if there was a reason for calling this particular station after this female Astronaut, wikipedia doesn't say that she was the first female Astronaut or anything of that kind however her first trip into space was on STS-115 - Atlantis. Now Atlantis was believed to be destroyed by the god Zeus so that got me thinking again if there was or is a connection to the whole Omphalos part.

Now it also just happens that the faction Chapter of Isinor is also located in this system. Isinor is the only system from the original elite game that requires a permit, and according to EDSM "This pastoral system supports an agricultural economy but doesn't welcome strangers. So much so that the governing council won't permit a starport in orbit for trading. The permit for this system can be obtained via the Chapter of Isinor faction."

There was also reports that there was a unregistered station here which has since been removed or re hidden within the system. Now personally i'm not fully to sure on what the go is with these unregistered stations that apparently gave good G5 mats or something but could this be something at all?

Now personally i'm not elite in game yet so if that is one of the requirements as believed me searching/checking this would prob be a waste of time and also most of this could be in dead a false/waste of time but i thought i'd share this and see what you all thought and well see if anyone wanted to look into these as a possibility.

Jager.

Original systems for those that want them Courtesy of D2EA. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XibS5oozz6-Bk3yJwvu09jgmWJNSsgkx/view
 

mach10

M
hrm.... I'm thinking the thing we are looking for is actually in 'witchspace', and visible during your transition when traveling from 1 system to another. The specific system to trigger this is in the name:
Ra (Starting point for jump)
xx (the thing we are looking for)
La (Desination of Jump)

It a place but not a place, you get see it but not interact with it yet. Its been in the game since the beginning, it doesn't require engineers/Horizons to see it.
 

yelboc

yelboc
Exocortex said:
Hey everyone. Long time lurker, first time poster. 👋

As I was reading the codex entry for Universal Cartographics last night, I happened to notice that the text has changed somewhat. Notably, "Omphalos Infotech" has been changed to "Unified Infotech". Has anyone else noticed this? Probably nothing, but then again... :unsure:
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"shocking -up - the mice were furious"

I'd noticed that just after the update - couldn't find any other alterations. If it was an error it, its a pretty shocking one, and I hope they've been more careful with the rest of it... :(
 

simulacrae

simulacrae
Ok so just a slight twist on the jewel on the brow bit...

I spent the evening in Alpheratz also known as Alpha Andromedae

Its the brightest star in Andromedae constellation.... Jewel?

Its arabic name surrat al-faras... Is the navel of the mare (omphalos)

Another name for it is "the head of the woman in chains"... Brow?

As to the mother of galaxies... Well the andromeda galaxy got its name from the constellation...

Anyway i spent an evening there popping in and out of USSs... Nothing to report
 

Oseris

Oseris
mach10 said:
hrm.... I'm thinking the thing we are looking for is actually in 'witchspace', and visible during your transition when traveling from 1 system to another. The specific system to trigger this is in the name:
Ra (Starting point for jump)
xx (the thing we are looking for)
La (Desination of Jump)

It a place but not a place, you get see it but not interact with it yet. Its been in the game since the beginning, it doesn't require engineers/Horizons to see it.
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Go back a couple pages and look at my posts and screen shots.

Also for everyone else: I can’t seem to spot the dark planet in witch space while jumping around unless I’m at the systems I mentioned in my posts.
 

RaNaketh

RaNaketh
Macros Black said:
Thank you very much for the list, CMDR. A quick eye-comparison tells me that there's a nice overlap of factions between our lists. Obviously factions are in flux when expanding/retracting to and from systems, so I'm considering how to capture this information.

As I have noted in the benevolent mission table, it appears that TDW in some instances gives both beneficiary and non-beneficiary missions to the same faction, which is a bit puzzling.

Is this something you have experienced?
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No problems, we're all trying to solve this one together and in our own very unique ways.

I've been taking a sort of weekly mission snap-shot of factions to collect my data. I'd love to do it daily but that isn't going to happen with RL, so I'm doing what I can.

However, like you I have noted that some factions do receive beneficiary and non-beneficiary missions targets which did confuse me. However, the ones I'm most 'suspicious' of at the moment based on my data collection, are the following list of non-highlighted factions which to my knowledge have only receive beneficiary missions (the red ones have been non-beneficiary missions so I'm excluding them at the moment):

130789


This faction group seems to be holding steady, and my suspicions are aroused due to the following quote (which may or may not be canon - I never can tell):

‘You should not consider the Dark Wheel a single organisation, gentlemen.
How could it survive for so long if it were so? The Wheel has many levels,
many hubs, cogs, gears and spokes. It is more akin to an affiliation of
19 organisations that share certain common goals. Interlocking in purpose.
Consider yourselves now spinning on the outermost rim.’

Before I leap into aligning with these factions I'm waiting for more data points to see if more Origin = ? factions appear in the list which will discount my theory, and/or if any other unique flags appear.

I also suspect I need to be 3x Elite anyway, so I'm also working on that whilst collating this data.

Fly Dangerous.
/ Ra
 

LocoOCo

LocoOCo
Hey so I'm trying to attack the DW toast from a different, more literal(?), angle. "To the jewel that burns on the brow of the mother of galaxies" - what 'jewel' 'burns'? Sapphire (fire). When i looked up sapphire on the galaxy map - it brought me to the Prism system, a system already deep in ED lore with Salome..

Not sure if this will actually take me anywhere, but hey, its worth a shot
 
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