Good luck commander.
Raxxla and Dark wheel does seem to be the first major piece of Elite Lore to be put into the game, hopefully your search will lead to somewhere.

I got a funny suspicion through we will have to wait until Frontier narrative designer to join the team before this is fully implemented into the game.

I hope I'm wrong through.

Thank you, Cmdr. I'm quite sure that I'll be spending a lot of time chasing Raxxla, perhaps even enough time to give any alien culture enough time to actually build the constructs I'm searching for should they not exist yet :)
 
Thank you bitstorm, this is additional information I haven't seen about the mission regarding what the factions are looking for in the containers. I'll be sure to try the Silent Song mission without the actual spheres if possible. Not sure how to test the Outer Rim mission, as there's no cargo to non-deliver.

I have a few questions, I hope you can answer for me:
- How did you come to think about trying to see what would happen if you tried to deliver without the actual containers?
- Did you try to complete the mission and deliver a stolen container(s)?
- Your two screenshots are almost identical, was that intention?

And yes, the Dark Wheel faction does seem to be a rather complicated faction :)

1) Just experimenting with the mission, trying to figure out if there's a link to the Unknown Artefact.
2) Not sure what you're asking here, I've completed this mission many times. You still get the bugged mission text on completion. Are you specifically asking about the version given out by The Dark Wheel? Yes I completed that nothing out of the ordinary happened.
3) The latter is the only screen shot I have of The Dark Wheel mission, I added the mission header at the top. I thought I'd taken a screenshot of the initial mission page but it seems not. =(
 
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Mission: What Was Lost Will Soon Be Found

Mission: What Was Lost Will Soon Be Found (The Wheel Of Time Turns).
Summary: Retrieve Black Box from given system. First Black Box located in a WSS. Listening gave only faint regular beeps. Top and Bottom pics shows respectively the top of 3 orbs or spheres? Trying to sell astro data with Black Boxes in cargo yielded no results, no new astro data was revealed. Recorded sound fragments contains a voice saying: "This is never gonna stop Clay, this challenge will never stop".
Hypothesis: Black Box contains data crystals containing the ships log with mission details and the ships course. Data crystals/spheres are the basis for the Mission: Obfuscated In The Outer Rim / Mission: Silent Song Of The Spheres, although it is strange why the cryptographers is in doubt of it's human/alien origin, if it was simply a data crystal from a ships log.
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Upon non-delivery (a somewhat impatient mission client):
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Upon delivery:
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Black Box images (Flight Recorder,Secure Data Storage,Top, Bottom)
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Mission: What Was Lost Will Soon Be Found (The Wheel Of Time Turns)
SystemStationFactionLocate In System#DateReward
HIP 86063Chasles landingSocial HIP 86063 FreeCol 285 Sector YI-L B23-2114 sep 3301 19:0644,986
HIP 86063Benyovszky DockHIP 86063 CartelColo 285 Sector ZI-L B23-4114 sep 3301 19:5434,761
HIP 86063Chasles LandingHIP 86063 CartelHIP 867063115 sep 3301 14:00091,497
MotilekuiYoung RingMotilekui Empire PartySynuefe AW-M C23-9118 sep 3301 18:1940,223
MotilekuiSchwabe TerminalMotilekui Empire PartySynuefe -H D11-65119 sep 3301 9:3578,898
MotilekuiSchwabe TerminalUnionists Of MotilekuiSynuefe -H D11-69119 sep 3301 9:3544,583
MotilekuiSchwabe TerminalHIP 14361 Federal ServicesSynuefe -Z B46-2119 sep 3301 10:0851,494
MotilekuiSchwabe TerminalMotilekui Purple ClanSynuefe VQ-B B46-1119 sep 3301 10:0846,375
MotilekuiSchwabe TerminalMotilekui Empire PartySynuefe -H D11-75119 sep 3301 11:1472,732
49 ArietisKonscak Colony49 Arietis Left PartyArietis Sector KH-V B2-1119 sep 3301 21:5839,439
49 ArietisKonscak Colony49 Arietis Blue Bridge CommsArietis Sector GB-X B1-4119 sep 3301 21:5858,848
49 ArietisFisk Landing64 Arietis FrontArietis Sector GB-X B1-3119 sep 3301 22:2444,835
49 ArietisKonscak Colony64 Arietis FrontArietis Sector GB-X B1-1120 sep 3301 08:1991,803
49 ArietisKonscak ColonyArietis Sector GB-X JH.V B2-2120 sep 3301 08:3157,496

6 aug - 13 sep
SystemStationFactionLocate In System#DateReward
LTT 16456Ray PlatformLTT 16456 ResistanceObotrimi16 aug 3301 21:4659,254
NaitsMcDivitt OrbitalNaits CoLTT 1652217 aug 3301 14:0238,825
FintenoKolmogorov StationFinteno FreeCol 285 Sector PY-R d4-11918 aug 3301 10:1451,513
FintenoKolmogorov StationFinteno FreeCol 285 Sector IT-W b16-318 aug 3301 10:1541,719
FintenoKolmogorov StationFinteno FreeMislika18 aug 3301 11:4333,562
FintenoKolmogorov StationFinteno FreeCol 285 Sector HT-W b16-218 aug 3301 11:4579,888
FintenoKolmogorov StationFinteno FreeCol 285 Sector PY-R D4-11918 aug 3301 13:1444,983
FintenoKolmogorov StationFinteno Gold PosseCol 285 Sector PY-R D4-11918 aug 3301 13:3674,992
FintenoKolmogorov StationFinteno FreeCol 285 Sector GY-W B16-118 aug 3301 13:3788,914
FintenoKolmogorov StationFinteno FreeBD+34 68518 aug 3301 13:3943,111
FintenoKolmogorov StationFinteno Law PartyPegasi Sector II-G A12-418 aug 3301 14:2977,733
NaitsMcDivitt OrbitalNationals Of NaitsPiscium Sector FS-J A9-618 aug 3301 18:02115,188
Ross 779Arnold SettlementRoss 779 Silver CrewLHS 367718 aug 3301 18:3761,508
NaitsMcDivitt StationWorkers Of Naits Progressive PartyPiscium Sector FD-I A10-118 aug 3301 20:0073,657
TicushpakhiRoss HangarPiscium Sector FD-I A10-118 aug 3301 20:02
Wolf 953Constantine SettlementWolf 953 Progressive PartyPiscium Sector NE-G a11-218 aug 3301 20:0231,457
Wolf 953Constantine SettlementWolf 953 Jet Life CoIndrundjara18 aug 3301 21:4259,131
MariyacochBloomfield PortMariyacoch Silver SyndicateKao Kach19 aug 3301 16:2677,928
Wolf 1022McDivitt PortWolf 1022 SystemsBiham19 aug 3301 16:59120,644
MariyacochSavitskaya StationMariyacoch Silver SyndicateCol 285 Sector IK-P A35-019 aug 3301 17:0731,407
PunnaNicollier DockHand Gang Of PunnaCol 285 Sector MQ-N A36-319 aug 3301 17:4033,263
PunnaNicollier DockBureau Of Punna Defence PartyCol 285 Sector PW-L A37-119 aug 3301 17:4144,679
NaitsMcDivitt OrbitalNaits CoLHS 3722123 aug 3301 16:2393,139
NLTT 51200Vian WorksLeague Of NLTT 51200Col 285 Sector JV-N A36-2123 aug 3301 18:25101,848
MariyacochPriestley StationMariyacoch Silver SyndicateKao Kach124 aug 3301 17:5497,576
NLTT 51200Strekalov ColonyNLTT 51200 Crimson ClanRoss 779125 aug 3301 18:3564,399
TicushpakhiPeral RefineryNationalists Of TicusgpakhiPiscium Sector DS-J A9-3125 aug 3301 18:59119,218
TicushpakhiRoss HangarNationalists Of TicushpakhiSTKM 1-1968126 aug 3301 5:4043,732
TicushpakhiRoss HangarTicushpakhi Power SystemsCol 285 Sector DE-R A34-1126 aug 3301 5:41113,196
HIP 112052Witt PlatformHIP 112052 Empire PartyCol 285 Sector RJ-O b20-3127 aug 3301 16:4450,075
Jang DiHenry StationJang Di Empire LeagueJang Di127 aug 3301 18:3292,184
78 Ursae MajoriSeddon Gateway78 Ursae Majoris SystemsTiethay127 aug 3301 19:4746,415
NaitsMcDivitt OrbitalSyndicate Of NaitsCol 285 Sector KN-J C9-1718 sep 3301 18:1259,668
IndrundjaraCabana HangarCartel Of IndrundjaraNaits18 sep 3301 18:2962,013
VaratiBond HubVarati Blue Public LimitedCol 285 Sector AN-G B12-019 sep 3301 19:4839,182
VaratiBond HubVarati Independent UnionCol 285 Sector AN-G B12-1110 sep 3301 16:4633,648
VaratiBond HubVarati Blue Public LimitedCol 285 Sector GO-E B13-1111 sep 3301 19:1072,763
VaratiBond HubVarati Independent UnionCol 285 Sector ET-E B13-5111 sep 3301 19:12119,240
VaratiBond HubVarati Independent UnionCol 285 Sector AN-G B12-1111 sep 3301 20:08120,742
VaratiThompson DockVarati RingCol 285 Sector ET-E B13-5112 sep 3301 8:3451,536
VaratiThompson DockVarati Blue Public LimitedHIP 110229112 sep 3301 21:5586,496
VaratiThompson DockVarati RingHIP 110229112 sep 3301 21:5545,054
VaratiForsskal HubVarati Independent UnionCol 285 Sector DT-E B13-2112 sep 3301 22:19107,212
VaratiForsskal HubVarati RingCol 285 Sector ZM-G B12-4112 sep 3301 22:1987,782
VaratiForsskal HubVarati Independent UnionCol 285 Sector CI-G B12-5112 sep 3301 22:1959,319
VaratiForsskal HubVarati Independent UnionCol 285 Sector IX-T D4-43112 sep 3301 22:1959,877
VaratiThompson DockVarati Independent Union28 Cephei112 sep 3301 22:4791,957
MbayoHopkins PlantMbayo PossePegasi Sector PN-T C3-23113 sep 3301 14:4351,977
HarmaGabriel EnterpriseHarma Central InterstellarPegasi Sector NC-V C2-20113 sep 3301 17:1978,708
LodharyAnthony DockLodhary Jet ClanPegasi Sector ON-T C3-27113 sep 3301 20:0159,831
HatmehingHevelius TerminalHatmehing Universal SystemsAsvienses116 sep 3301 16:5550,929
49 ArietisGaiman Dock64 Arietis FrontArietis Sector CQ-Y C8120 sep 3301 7:4692,568
 
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Heya,
I was doing some digging on the UA and this mission got my attention.
I have since been directed here and I see you have these missions listed so I'll pass this onto you if it makes any difference I dunno.
This one is from Harma, Gabriel station, Silver Cartel faction.

If this helps, I also found Hafnium 178 convoy in this system (Phraces), all the rings are pristine. Also an UA convoy was found in a nearby system, Krisha.
Also loads of Trinkets of Hidden Fortune in nearby systems. I have been taking them from haulers in the area and selling at BM.

Just some info.
 
On that Black Box one, do you know if going back to the mission giver without the item as per my comment above (https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=168253&p=2595789&viewfull=1#post2595789) was tested or is it unknown?

Thanks for reminding me, bitstorm. A somewhat impatient mission client is 'suggesting' to send someone else (mission post updated).

Heya,
I was doing some digging on the UA and this mission got my attention.
I have since been directed here and I see you have these missions listed so I'll pass this onto you if it makes any difference I dunno.
This one is from Harma, Gabriel station, Silver Cartel faction.

If this helps, I also found Hafnium 178 convoy in this system (Phraces), all the rings are pristine. Also an UA convoy was found in a nearby system, Krisha.
Also loads of Trinkets of Hidden Fortune in nearby systems. I have been taking them from haulers in the area and selling at BM.

Just some info.

Thanks Cmdr. All and any info regarding these missions is most welcome :)
My most recent theory (thanks to Cmdr nilreb for pointing me to the What Was Lost Will Soon Be Found missions) is that the data crystals originate from Black boxes from ships that has been to the Outer Rim trying to locate Raxxla, Although I have not discovered any specifics on the map, the coordinates or the context.

I have yet to discover a tangible link between Raxxla, the UA's and the Hafnium 178.
 
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Thanks for reminding me, bitstorm. A somewhat impatient mission client is 'suggesting' to send someone else (mission post updated).



Thanks Cmdr. All and any info regarding these missions is most welcome :)
My most recent theory (thanks to Cmdr nilreb for pointing me to the What Was Lost Will Soon Be Found missions) is that the data crystals originate from Black boxes from ships that has been to the Outer Rim trying to locate Raxxla, Although I have not discovered any specifics on the map, the coordinates or the context.

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Ok :)
Well I went to Mullane Ring and found the other mission there too, fyi.
Are these missions available in all stations and factions?

About black boxes:
"The flight computer from a destroyed ship. Recovered flight computers can offer details on the movements and intentions of ships before meeting their demise....."

Anyway to read this data?
In theory, the black boxes from the missions have the data of where that particular ship has been or was going which is important (according to the mission givers), in solving a mystery.

Is "and on the many earths" a clue. perhaps?
 
Ok :)
Well I went to Mullane Ring and found the other mission there too, fyi.
Are these missions available in all stations and factions?

About black boxes:
"The flight computer from a destroyed ship. Recovered flight computers can offer details on the movements and intentions of ships before meeting their demise....."

Anyway to read this data?
In theory, the black boxes from the missions have the data of where that particular ship has been or was going which is important (according to the mission givers), in solving a mystery.

Is "and on the many earths" a clue. perhaps?

I believe the missions are available in all stations if your rank and rep are adequate. I have not found a way to read the flight recorders yet, but I believe that's what the Dark Wheel is currently trying to accomplish.

"and on the many earths" could be like a clue, albeit a very vague one.
 
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Just a thought, but do the numbers printed on the outside of the SAP 8 Core cargo containers mean anything to anyone?

I compared one of my container's numbers with another one on the wiki today, and they look identical. I'm thinking that any useful information would be stored in the data crystals inside the container; however as to the meaning of the numbers, I've got no clue other than they are simple (identical) identification numbers for the canisters.
 
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Great thread guys, just stumbled across this. Yay, another thread like the UA thread to follow, just what I needed! ;-)
 
Mission: Sell UA at Li Qing Jao

Mission: Sell UA at Li Qing Jao in SOL that has a Black Market.
Summary: No direct link has been established between the UA and Raxxla, only conjecture linking the Thargoids with the UA and Raxxla.
Hypothesis: Selling the UA at Li Qing Jao will reveal it's secret, that may be related to Raxxla.


System
Date
Hours
#SSS
#Hafnium spotted
#UA spotted
Timocani
10 aug 3301
6
42
3
Timocani
11 aug 3301
6
33
2
0[*1]
Timocani
12 aug 3301
6
37
2
Timocani
13 aug 3301
6
62
3[*2]
Timocani
14 aug 3301
7491



[*1] One UA was retrieved by Cmdr Delmonte while in session.
[*2] Got bored and grabbed one, sold for 57,675.
 
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I like to try my dry brain cells on this topic aswell,
as i did theorize on the UA thread here are my thoughts.
Maybe you can helP?

Still working on my "Quest for Raxxla",
i'm a bit lost...
I counted every letter in the fabled "Raxxla" and substituted the name with the number of position:

R A X X L A
18 1 24 24 12 1

Now astrologers do not use an X/Y/Z coordinate-system,
and i highly doubt, that a three or four digit relative position in each axis is enough to
navigate the galaxymap of E: D.

But they use another system consiting of three values per variable to locate an object,
the "Right ascension", short RA and the declination, short dec.

In this system the name Raxxla and the allocated numbers indicate a position at:

RA 18h 1min 24sec
dec +/-24° 12' 1"

My google skills however do not yield a result in a named system,
can anyone point me on how to navigate to those 2 possible locations?
I am not sure even, if those coordinates take the earth as the origin or maybe SagA*?
Any ideas?

The reason i post this, is because of FFE lore, there is a system with a "Hypergate" rumored to exist, and very hostile human military remnants guarding it.
Maybe you got the key and i got a trace?
I do rule out Polaris out as an option, simply because lacking accessability,
and some UA owners already tried going there with no success (maybe due to a bug?).

Now i looked into the "aladin" star-atlas and found a star right at the coordinates:
"18 01 24.082 -24 12 2.26" in the positive angle there is a super bright star very close,
but nothing right next to the coordinates.

Now to find out what designation the coordinates have...
 
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I like to try my dry brain cells on this topic aswell,
as i did theorize on the UA thread here are my thoughts.
Maybe you can helP?

Hi Cmdr, only conjecture I'm afraid. Finding Raxxla using encoding from the name itself would be rather sneaky, but probably not without the reaches of the imaginations of FD. Not logged in atm, but what about grid reference 181,24,24, planet @121LY?
 
Maybe we need to be triple elite to get a reaction from the missions or Dark Wheel and complete all the missions then see what happens.


  • Triple Elite: Check
  • Complete all missions (*1): In progress
  • Dark Wheel reaction: Pending

(*1): I sure hope not, there's a lot of stations and a whole lot of factions :)
 
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Here is what i found at my conjecture:

15 jumps left to HIP 88264....
Enthusiasm critical, coffee critical...

EDIT: Arrived, scanning system.

Scan complete... nothing...
View attachment 55129

Checking another nearby system with a bright white star.

Hi Cmdr, only conjecture I'm afraid. Finding Raxxla using encoding from the name itself would be rather sneaky, but probably not without the reaches of the imaginations of FD. Not logged in atm, but what about grid reference 181,24,24, planet @121LY?

I'm not sure how i shall find that destination...

Oh and on hiding info in the name:
The best hidey spot is the most obvious!^^
They said they have the coords... just can't find it.
That might refer to a missing object in space, or maybe simple problems of keeping information intact over ages.

On conjecture:
The constellation i am in is named "hercules" who did pass "cerberus" to venture into the underworld...
Is this coincidence? Is my mind playing tricks?

96 herculis is a system with 3 suns. 3 heads?
http://server7.sky-map.org/starview?object_type=1&object_id=476393
 
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Here is what i found at my conjecture:

I'm not sure how i shall find that destination...

Oh and on hiding info in the name:
The best hidey spot is the most obvious!^^
They said they have the coords... just can't find it.
That might refer to a missing object in space, or maybe simple problems of keeping information intact over ages.

On conjecture:
The constellation i am in is named "hercules" who did pass "cerberus" to venture into the underworld...
Is this coincidence? Is my mind playing tricks?

96 herculis is a system with 3 suns. 3 heads?
http://server7.sky-map.org/starview?object_type=1&object_id=476393

Oh, sorry for the misunderstanding, I've only got conjecture on my own part, you are following the leads as you see them :)

You can find the mentioned location in the GalMap;open it and find the coordinates, it'll be a box with potentially more than one system, and if you are lucky;just one.
 
Oh, sorry for the misunderstanding, I've only got conjecture on my own part, you are following the leads as you see them :)

You can find the mentioned location in the GalMap;open it and find the coordinates, it'll be a box with potentially more than one system, and if you are lucky;just one.

How can i tell which grid is which? Can you give me an idea how to use your method?
I am not that firm in astrology, yet i have some serious fun joini9ng up this treasure hunt.

Found some "rare" bodies:
Class M Dwarf-Star with Ring

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M class dwarf with ring2.jpg
M class dwarf with ring3.jpg

If i remember correctly the FFE plot spun around Polaris,
including the "Turner Class" ship.
Polaris is one of the brightest stars visible from earth.
Have the other objects in the "brightest star list" been checked out?
I think you need a very bright star, best with a big solar mass used as
a stellar beacon for long range travels.

Any ideas on how i can check what their designation is in E: D?
 
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How can i tell which grid is which? Can you give me an idea how to use your method?
I am not that firm in astrology, yet i have some serious fun joini9ng up this treasure hunt.

Great pictures, Julio!
If I may come with a suggestion: Take the pictures from the Debug view, that way you'll don't see the cockpit.

Open the GalMap, and simply scroll to the coordinates, sadly the ones I suggested is a grid containing no stars.

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