The Quest To Find Raxxla
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Thargoids appear in the FDEV sanctioned books, which are supposed to be canon.
Hmm... that sounds a little bit like slipping over into seeing Raxxla everywhere and ignoring what's really there. Which is what they want.
There's various reasons for the Superpowers to be there. Primarily there's the presence of a very valuable resource - Meta-Alloys. There's also obviously military reasons to be there. All these start with the Thargoids.
The Thargoid presence goes back to the end of the first war, where they had left the seeds of their own return.
Why would they be in the Pleiades in the first place? Well Thargoids sow areas then return later. Other areas with Barnacles are the Witchhead and California Nebulas. Why Nebulae? Well that's open to speculation, but possibly it's down to deposition on surfaces of the molecules which compose the Nebula.
Anyway... The rumours have always been that it's Soontill the Thargoids were looking for, not Raxxla.
Of course, but not in an "active" way.
I mean, in order to deal with Raxxla, we might be supposed to deal with the Thargs and antigravity in some manner...
What do we know about Tharg drives ? Are they "Newtonian" like ours ? And Raxxla ?
Anyway... just guessing.
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Out Of The Darkness has Thargoids in an active way. Unless by active you mean that things are told from a Thargoid perspective.
He has everyone convinced that there is not going to be any clues what-so-ever in any of the books because Raxxla was 'strictly off-limits' to him. I am not saying he isn't a credible source, what I am saying is if he was cut from writing about Raxxla that is one thing, but he gave his position as if he were speaking for every 3rd party writer there ever was. I am not so sure that Drew has the power and/or knowledge to make such a call without confirming with other authors as well, that kind of statement would have to come from above him or from every writer.
Regardless lets suppose Drew is right and no one is allowed to touch Raxxla, there is still a way to write about Raxxla indirectly without directly referring to the planet or even know you are writing about Raxxla. For example: Suppose I am John Harper writing 'And Here the Wheel'. If I was told I could write about a super-weapon called 'Starburst' with suspected capabilities of blowing up a star, that in and of itself is not directly referring to Raxxla. However... If Raxxla is in a system where the star was exploded, turned into a blackhole, or Raxxla was turned into an asteroid belt, then said weapon is the key to unlocking Raxxla. I like Drew, he's a good guy, I just wish he wouldn't have made such a blanket statement convincing people there is nothing to Raxxla.
Regardless lets suppose Drew is right and no one is allowed to touch Raxxla, there is still a way to write about Raxxla indirectly without directly referring to the planet or even know you are writing about Raxxla. For example: Suppose I am John Harper writing 'And Here the Wheel'. If I was told I could write about a super-weapon called 'Starburst' with suspected capabilities of blowing up a star, that in and of itself is not directly referring to Raxxla. However... If Raxxla is in a system where the star was exploded, turned into a blackhole, or Raxxla was turned into an asteroid belt, then said weapon is the key to unlocking Raxxla. I like Drew, he's a good guy, I just wish he wouldn't have made such a blanket statement convincing people there is nothing to Raxxla.
There was a writers guide for all the authors. They all had the same information and limitations.
If I remeber correctly, Harper made Soontil because Raxxla was of limits.
How can we search for gas giants that have 8 or more moons and to see their distance from star at same time? Because closest gas giant with 8 moons I found was 217 Ls away from M-type star (red dwarf) and it still was too far away to produce image from Codex (Dark Wheel station).
Maybe not all know there is already thread focused to searching for the Dark Wheel station using Codex picture as main clue. We already did some work.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/477422-The-codex-screenshot-for-the-The-Dark-Wheel-Which-system-is-it
I like this thread about Raxxla for wonderful theories based on history, literature, old games. Often clever/studied theories I really enjoy to read all time But it is not how we do searching for the station using that Codex picture. It is just about brute force searching and routine. Of course if you can see something more from the Codex picture you are welcome. We need decrease number of candidate systems.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/477422-The-codex-screenshot-for-the-The-Dark-Wheel-Which-system-is-it
I like this thread about Raxxla for wonderful theories based on history, literature, old games. Often clever/studied theories I really enjoy to read all time
But it is not how we do searching for the station using that Codex picture. It is just about brute force searching and routine. Of course if you can see something more from the Codex picture you are welcome. We need decrease number of candidate systems.Thargs nope.
please, don't make me look again for DW's stream telling it,
Saying "again" because the link is already somewhere here.
(Drew ! Help !)
I mean like unfolding a plot that implies Thargs coming out of a mere background.
Like Cmdr Scytale Tleilaxu marrying the Tharg Queen or so ..
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Maybe not all know there is already thread focused to searching for the Dark Wheel station using Codex picture as main clue. We already did some work.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/477422-The-codex-screenshot-for-the-The-Dark-Wheel-Which-system-is-it
I like this thread about Raxxla for wonderful theories based on history, literature, old games. Often clever/studied theories I really enjoy to read all time
I like the work in the thread, CMDR. Link to the thread is now added to the OP.
Question for anyone who has managed to read the sonnets that may be related to the Raxxla codex entry. Taking a step back I think I’ve been looking at things too fragmentedly. Assuming Omphalos and Astrophel and the Spiriling Stars to be different clues.
The Omphalos Rift is said to be mentioned in several stories which seem to originate in an unnamed book that bares a resemblance to the children’s book “Princess Astrophel and the Spiriling Stars” (I think we often forget the Princess part, dunno if it’s significant tho.) so it would seem that we are to look for a mention of an item of significance, power, Magic etc within the works for a clue(s). Has anyone found mention of an item matching that description within the sonnets?
The Omphalos Rift is said to be mentioned in several stories which seem to originate in an unnamed book that bares a resemblance to the children’s book “Princess Astrophel and the Spiriling Stars” (I think we often forget the Princess part, dunno if it’s significant tho.) so it would seem that we are to look for a mention of an item of significance, power, Magic etc within the works for a clue(s). Has anyone found mention of an item matching that description within the sonnets?
I'll check HR 6001 next time I log on. As for narrowing down the list, I would suggest the following criteria:
if stellar_radius less than or equal to 1.0, then distance to gas giant with 8+ moons must be 100ls or less
if stellar_radius greater than 1.0, then distance to gas giant with 8+ moons must be 1500ls or less
This is because there are some stars labelled as red giants in the Stellar Forge even though they have stats resembling red dwarfs (e.g. the system in Bleia Eohn in the list) and the others are much larger than Sol, so the above should separate the two groups quite well.
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This being said, a red dwarf system would need the gas giant to be so close to the star that the station would be more easily found by passers-by (unless it was a very distant secondary star). Red giants would also attract the attention of explorers. From that perspective, it might be fruitful to search for systems where the gas giant with 8+ moons is close to a star other than the primary, especially in those thousands of systems with a red dwarf primary star. The catch here is that if the gas giant does orbit a star other than the primary, then the initial search needs to cover star types other than type M in order to find which have red dwarf companions!
HD 14284 3 H & 4 H
No station found at HD 14284 3 H. Colour not quite right.
No station either at 4 H
No station found at HD 14284 3 H. Colour not quite right.
No station either at 4 H
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No station or other POI at HR 6001. From near the 8th moon, the gas giant and the star are both a decent match in terms of size to the image in the Codex, although the image in the Codex shows more detail on the star and the star appears more red than here. (The star is M2III and is over 51 solar radii and the gas giant is about 1 Kls away).
The Omphalos stone is a stone. The Omphalos Rift is... a rift
Being a structure/object of some kind I assume it’s something along the lines of stargate. Why it’s omphalos idk. Central to the planet? Sends you to a center? Central to the galmap? (Which would be sol which sits at coordnace 0:0:0) idk that part I really don’t have a clue on.