The Quest To Find Raxxla

[SergMx]

It is ...the cubes

EDExploration - HerzbubeWiki

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When I wrote about the regions I did not mean sectors, namely the regions of the game. As far as I remember these regions, a strange shape was introduced into the game with the codex.
Measure the galaxy in cubes is not correct, it is round and the concentration of stars near the center is very large i.e. the accuracy will fall.
The sector of the polchr system just takes this into account. To increase the number of stars in the central cubes, a correction for this must be introduced in the grid, in the polar one it will be by itself.
And I believe the grid and distance from the Sun are then recalculated from the polar system.

 

[Han_Zen]

It's that simple and you haven't found it yet? ;-)

One could also apply that perhaps just in the Sol system, with the Moon being the mother...

Could be internal directions in another system as well. It’s the toast of TDW. Their history is tied mostly to the old words.

 

[simulacrae]

When I wrote about the regions I did not mean sectors, namely the regions of the game. As far as I remember these regions, a strange shape was introduced into the game with the codex.
Measure the galaxy in cubes is not correct, it is round and the concentration of stars near the center is very large i.e. the accuracy will fall.
The sector of the polchr system just takes this into account. To increase the number of stars in the central cubes, a correction for this must be introduced in the grid, in the polar one it will be by itself.
And I believe the grid and distance from the Sun are then recalculated from the polar system.

Ya - was playing with the regions before - they definitely line up along the polar coordinate galaxy map you also see in the codex. I vaugely remember something early on where they talked about how they arrived at the coordinate system they are using.... Also I know there is a thread out there from Jackie Silver(?) maybe - that has some good insight into naming conventions within the sectors.... (edit - ah ya looks like that is what alexyk had in his link)

 

[simulacrae]

I see some changes were done to the thread. I am against Censorship in all forms. I believe he had a right to post - and his Image analysis was fun. I think it was best in his own thread like he had it before - and probably should have been using spoilers instead of walls of images - but I feel the response from the community has been less than good.

 

[CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian]

The interesting this about this about this is almost inevitably you will end up in a region circling Ursa Major... also it is four points probably and not six.

The two best possibilities for the "jewel on the mother of all galaxies" based on shear obviousness and brightness are Sirius and Arcturus (two of the single most bright stars in the sky). They are also visible in the stream of stars representing the Milky Way Galaxy.

As far as the next key phrase "the whisperer in witch-space, the siren of the deepest void" the next candidate is the Canes Venatici's Giant Void (the largest of the confirmed voids in the known Universe). See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canes_Venatici . This seems to be both a reference to the danger/excitement of exploration and a very certain region of the sky. If I was guessing, I'd try Cor Caroli (yes it is the brightest star in Canes Venatici - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cor_Caroli) next (by the way it's part of the Great Diamond asterism - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Diamond - in the North celestial sphere that Arcturus is part of).

Then we have "The parent's grief, the lover's woe, and the yearning of our vagabond hearts". This has two major interpretations but only one refers to a single collection of stars:

1) Reference to the Trojan War more broadly but specifically to Thetis and Achilles (her son). It goes pretty deep there are prophecies about both. Thetis sacrificed multiple children in efforts to make on of them immortal out of fear of these prophecies. Finally, she commissioned the shield of Achilles that highlights the constellations in the immediate region surrounding Ursa Major (allegorical only).
2) Demeter / Persephone / Virgo Constellation (Virgo actually has represented both). Demeter lost her daughter to Hades and caused a crop failure due to her sadness. Persephone and Hades (her husband) can only see each other for 6 months or so a year (myth of the Seasons). Vagabond hearts is the connection to the fact it is story of love and loss and death and life. Start at Spica (the next part of the Great Diamond).

Which considering the hits on the Great Diamond you may want to consider going to Denebola (yes, all are in game). Also, check Regulus as it is also occassionally considered as part of the Great Diamond.

If this actually works (it might given it fits pretty well), please kindly credit me as I am hunting down the Achilles / Thetis connection.

P.S. All the constellations referenced are singled out in the Elite Dangerous OST (original sound track).

It's always fun to interpret the hints in the codex and other places, but what are we looking for?

I'm not talking about Raxxla being a planet, a ship or a hole in space. I'm talking about what FD are trying to tell us with the hints.
The codex says: "The earliest documented stories tend to agree on several points, however: that Raxxla is a
definite place, and that it holds a mystical secret."

A definite place requires coordinates. Nothing else. Coordinates can be many things though. Regular ED coordinates have a starting point (Sol), a plane (Galactic) and X,Y,Z in ly. That is quite a lot of info to put into mystical hints. It can however be done relatively simple, without using know staring positions, assumed planes and specific units of measurement.

The TDW toast is a possible example:

Starting position: the jewel that burns on the brow of the mother of galaxies
An axis (direction): (from) the whisperer in witch-space, (to) the siren of the deepest void. - Ideally this axis goes through the starting point, but it's not required. Parallel works.
A plane that the axis penetrates: (a triangle formed by)The parent's grief, the lover's woe, and the yearning of our vagabond hearts.

If we could decode all the six bits to systems, we would have an exact point in space.

This is just an example of the amount of information needed and how a hint could be structured. Keep looking.

 

[[PS4] Filthymick420]

I see some changes were done to the thread. I am against Censorship in all forms. I believe he had a right to post - and his Image analysis was fun. I think it was best in his own thread like he had it before - and probably should have been using spoilers instead of walls of images - but I feel the response from the community has been less than good.

Proper mod etiquette requires the person being harassed should be the one to be censored not those doing the harassing

 

[SergMx]

I found a strange drawing (green) on the Internet, for some reason it looks a lot like a galaxy with regions.

Il Mito di Raxxla & Dark Wheel.

RAXXLA Il mito di Raxxla circola da sempre nella galassia di Elite e tra i giocatori affamati di misteri. Al momento nessuno sa dove sia nonostante gli sviluppatori abbiano detto già qualcosa a riguardo il

www.elitedangerousitalia.it

The Quest To Find Raxxla

I feel as though I’ve made a breakthrough. I’ve never been able to discern a system hidden in a Galnet article before but this time I found two articles, so far, that point to the same place. This isn’t Raxxla that I’m likely to find but instead perhaps the real Soontill. Hopefully finally...

forums.frontier.co.uk

 

[Darth Ender]

the dark wheel toast is a stupid "hint" to a mystery that within the lore fdev created, the people doing the toasting (who are the elite explorers/treasure hunters) have been searching for and haven't found raxxla for roughly a thousand years.

"Oh, we've been stating the location of what we've been searching for this whole time and didn't bother to piece together some earth centric clues we would have had to have been responsible for knowing in the first place to create the toast? Our bad"

no.

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

What clavain said ... plus I think a few of them are laughing at us from the Bar in Raxxla where they can actually sit and Drink with their Unicorn Bunnies at their sides (looking at you Macros and Han Zen...)

Just searching the thread for what you said about Adamastor & Hesperus, and found this...

You’re accusing Macros and Han Zen of being Unicorn Bunnies???

That’s rather non-PC isn’t it???

 

[simulacrae]

Just searching the thread for what you said about Adamastor & Hesperus, and found this...

You’re accusing Macros and Han Zen of being Unicorn Bunnies???

That’s rather non-PC isn’t it???

Ya - Welll I was trying to say they had their own Unicorn Bunnies- and I want one too (I have an extreme case of Unicorn Bunny Envy). But hopefully soon that will be rectified
I always Picture Macros as some kind of Dragon - with me as the guy in the reflection. And Han Zen as some sort of Daoist Han Solo....

 

[yelboc]

I found a strange drawing (green) on the Internet, for some reason it looks a lot like a galaxy with regions.

Il Mito di Raxxla & Dark Wheel.

RAXXLA Il mito di Raxxla circola da sempre nella galassia di Elite e tra i giocatori affamati di misteri. Al momento nessuno sa dove sia nonostante gli sviluppatori abbiano detto già qualcosa a riguardo il

www.elitedangerousitalia.it

The Quest To Find Raxxla

I feel as though I’ve made a breakthrough. I’ve never been able to discern a system hidden in a Galnet article before but this time I found two articles, so far, that point to the same place. This isn’t Raxxla that I’m likely to find but instead perhaps the real Soontill. Hopefully finally...

forums.frontier.co.uk

No, Thats the CoR logo background which is a player made design and unofficial. Unfortunately the Wiki is not a reliable source of information. If I had a credit for every time that logo comes up I'd own a fleet carrier by now..

The image, btw , is from the barberry crop circle:

Pi appears in crop circle

Well educated aliens

plus.maths.org

With regards to the toast. Darth Ender is correct in so much as TDW don't know where Raxxla is, so expecting the toast to lead you there is likely to be a false hope. My impression after much deliberation is that the toast describes Raxxla itself, as much as they know about it, and the effect it has had on their members:

Jewel, Siren etc. - this is what it is; lover's woe, parents grief etc. -what its done to us.

So for hints, I think we need to look elsewhere in the codex article.. not that that helps much

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

@simulacrae :
Ah yes, found it https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/the-quest-to-find-raxxla.168253/post-8994414
I suspect you misinterpreted the Adamastor’s route. The Galnet said she had travelled out to the Synuefe LP past HIP 39748 and HIP 33386 not via them. So I interpret this as an indication her route was actually along a straight line near those two systems. I took the average of their coordinates and took that as the actual route travelled out to the LP; it’s very close to 90degrees to the route she took from Coalsack to HIP 69200 where the incident occurred and Carver departed the ship. Remarkably close at 88 or 92 degrees to it, and closest point of approach is something like 5ly, which is practically touching! Methinks there is a reason for this but I couldn’t figure it.

She was originally enroute from Chukchan to an Azimuth secret base out toward BLoop. It doesn’t make sense for her to stop at the LP unless it was enroute to that base, so that base should remain to be found along that line. I think the 370 ly original fuelling is a bit of a red herring, since the LP is 365ly from Chukchan clearly she could refuel by scooping enroute (I’m assuming her jump range was around 150ly or so going by comparison with other megaships).
Now why did she travel back via HIP 69200, presumably towards a different Azimuth base, certainly not toward Chukchan.

Just still pondering over this- the new Galnet post about a message from Hesperus has retriggered my interest in this puzzle.

 

[CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian]

I found a strange drawing (green) on the Internet, for some reason it looks a lot like a galaxy with regions.

Il Mito di Raxxla & Dark Wheel.

RAXXLA Il mito di Raxxla circola da sempre nella galassia di Elite e tra i giocatori affamati di misteri. Al momento nessuno sa dove sia nonostante gli sviluppatori abbiano detto già qualcosa a riguardo il

www.elitedangerousitalia.it

The Quest To Find Raxxla

I feel as though I’ve made a breakthrough. I’ve never been able to discern a system hidden in a Galnet article before but this time I found two articles, so far, that point to the same place. This isn’t Raxxla that I’m likely to find but instead perhaps the real Soontill. Hopefully finally...

forums.frontier.co.uk

This is image a clue as it is in the actual Codex for the The Dark Wheel. From the looks of it this is either an exceptionally cool and small M-class star or a L-class brown dwarf with a nearby moon or planet. Station appears to be an Orbis.

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

This is image a clue as it is in the actual Codex for the The Dark Wheel. From the looks of it this is either an exceptionally cool and small M-class star or a L-class brown dwarf with a nearby moon or planet. Station appears to be an Orbis.

An Orbis yes, but if you compare that pic with a similar Orbis (e.g. Aulin Enterprise) the colour of the lights at the back of the station do not match. If you correct the colour of the Codex pic to match the star is less red and looks like a subdwarf. The scale looks like it may have been manipulated also.
I posted a link to my colour corrected version a while back in this thread.

 

[simulacrae]

@simulacrae :
Ah yes, found it https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/the-quest-to-find-raxxla.168253/post-8994414
I suspect you misinterpreted the Adamastor’s route. The Galnet said she had travelled out to the Synuefe LP past HIP 39748 and HIP 33386 not via them. So I interpret this as an indication her route was actually along a straight line near those two systems. I took the average of their coordinates and took that as the actual route travelled out to the LP; it’s very close to 90degrees to the route she took from Coalsack to HIP 69200 where the incident occurred and Carver departed the ship. Remarkably close at 88 or 92 degrees to it, and closest point of approach is something like 5ly, which is practically touching! Methinks there is a reason for this but I couldn’t figure it.

She was originally enroute from Chukchan to an Azimuth secret base out toward BLoop. It doesn’t make sense for her to stop at the LP unless it was enroute to that base, so that base should remain to be found along that line. I think the 370 ly original fuelling is a bit of a red herring, since the LP is 365ly from Chukchan clearly she could refuel by scooping enroute (I’m assuming her jump range was around 150ly or so going by comparison with other megaships).
Now why did she travel back via HIP 69200, presumably towards a different Azimuth base, certainly not toward Chukchan.

Just still pondering over this- the new Galnet post about a message from Hesperus has retriggered my interest in this puzzle.

Ahh good point !

I ran a quick look at angles minus those stops if that helps:

Ahh ooops only half read your message - I hadnt seen the galnet article yet. Ahhh ya give me a distance and i can get you an approximate coordinate based off of that line

 

[Leeloo Catfish]

the dark wheel toast is a stupid "hint" to a mystery that within the lore fdev created, the people doing the toasting (who are the elite explorers/treasure hunters) have been searching for and haven't found raxxla for roughly a thousand years.

"Oh, we've been stating the location of what we've been searching for this whole time and didn't bother to piece together some earth centric clues we would have had to have been responsible for knowing in the first place to create the toast? Our bad"

no.

Why are we taking their advise again ?

 

[SergMx]

This is image a clue as it is in the actual Codex for the The Dark Wheel. From the looks of it this is either an exceptionally cool and small M-class star or a L-class brown dwarf with a nearby moon or planet. Station appears to be an Orbis.

Sorry.
This picture appeared on the forum only because that's how the forum works.
My opinion: TDW has nothing to do with Raxxla, yes members of TDW searched for Raxxla and even someone found it, but as a rule he was quickly killed.

You have to follow the link and see there a map of the galaxy from the codex, divided into regions.

The green drawing in the margins I think is just an advertisement for the movie. And it's not a circle but a spiral, one way from edge to center and vice versa.

As for the tale of the astronomer and the spiral star, my opinion: this is any ancient astronomer looking into the sky through a telescope and when he saw another galaxy he called it a spiral star.

P.S. For some reason WIKI says that the first spiral galaxy was found by Lord Ross in 1845, although it also says that at least 4 galaxies are visible to the untrained eye.

P.P.S. I wish we had a offtopic in the section that could discuss modern astronomy outside of the game. As many things in modern astronomy incomprehensible and contradictory but to discuss it on scientific forums is not very desirable

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

Ahh good point !

I ran a quick look at angles minus those stops if that helps:

Ahh ooops only half read your message - I hadnt seen the galnet article yet. Ahhh ya give me a distance and i can get you an approximate coordinate based off of that line

The last log of Adamastor where she entered HIp 69200 said “Currently 1.. Ly “ but not from/to where. I suspect the secret base she was heading to is therefore 100 to 199 ly from HIP69200 probably along the straight line route from Coalsack. I did try a search around there but there are a lot of systems & dont know what divergence angle there could be. Another possibility is that the intersection point of the two lines might be a clue, how far would that be I wonder? My 3D math isn’t good enough to calculate it (yes I know- too many Lavian brandies!!).

Don’t understand the navigation info in the latest message (from Hesperus)
“ Navigational data to follow...
H1 Key -E
H2 Key +H
H3 Key -C ”

 

[SkyRock]

The last log of Adamastor where she entered HIp 69200 said “Currently 1.. Ly “ but not from/to where. I suspect the secret base she was heading to is therefore 100 to 199 ly from HIP69200 probably along the straight line route from Coalsack. I did try a search around there but there are a lot of systems & dont know what divergence angle there could be. Another possibility is that the intersection point of the two lines might be a clue, how far would that be I wonder? My 3D math isn’t good enough to calculate it (yes I know- too many Lavian brandies!!).

Don’t understand the navigation info in the latest message (from Hesperus)
“ Navigational data to follow...
H1 Key -E
H2 Key +H
H3 Key -C ”

we have the code: azb3648-000
maybe you need to do something with it ... let's say E H C is a number in the alphabet.
I really don't know what to do with it))

 

[Vetinari]

HESPERUS - Theres a thread that has all the info, apart from yet another message / mission from a 'secret' source that yet again could be the bleeding DW in disguise it probably has nothing to do with Raxxla or DW. Besides, the LP has been found on that thread already so it will be confusing for new people to follow the trail here rather than there. Theres a code to crack now. Presumably using the key

Galnet Update 08.04.3307 - Adamastor Update

Looks like yes. Almost a full day since this puzzle started and no progress. All I can figure out is we're looking for a listening post in a system somewhere near the Taurus Dark Region. Or in the constellation Taurus.

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I suspect the secret base she was heading to

You wont let it lie will you lol watch all the LS around the event and listen to what Arthur says for the answer