The Quest To Find Raxxla

CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian

CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian
Remember, my theories were forged in the kiln of Canonn Science. Not even they could find an effective way to kill them off. Trust me, it was attempted many times, but I was better at finding critical holes than they were (even in my own theories). I used to be their golden boy. Your going to have to try harder if you don't want this revived. Because, I am coming for the emperor if Marlin's brother had anything to do with keeping Raxxla a secret. I then intend to use the Empire's own genetic tech revive the menagerie of old via genetic sampling (when we get access to ever more more worlds as Odyssey expands). None of the other generation ships were even capable of reaching Achenar within the 199 years required (2097-2296) let alone by 2250 when Marlin's Republic was founded. From, the looks of things, Mayflower 97 went to Tau Ceti then Achenar but I am going to have use current IRL distances (2022) as opposed to 3308 distances because the 3308 distances exceed the 119.4 maximum lightyears the Mayflower 97 could have gotten within that timeframe. If this is indeed the case, we have a route and known distance the Mayflower 97 could be in modern times (assuming Marlin Duval and her remaining crew abandoned ship in Achenar).

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CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian

CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian
So, to recap where we are:
-2296 is solidly in the pre-hyperspace era of genaration ships.
-Rapid Expansion era doesn't begin until 2300.
-There is only one ship that could have actually made the journey to Achenar in the history of the lore at that necessary point in time (2097-2296).
-No other generation ship observed has exceed 0.25 LY/year and thus all other generation ships could only have only gotten 45.77 LY from their origin by 2296.
-That ship (the Mayflower 97) departed in 2097 from Earth's Moon orbit and was headed by Marlin Duval.
-The path is known reasonably accurately:
Sol -> Tau Ceti -> Achenar

Confidence: High confidence given the ship could at maximum have only gotten 119.4 LY between 2097 and 2296 at 0.6 LY/year).
-Marlin Duval died in 2296. Raxxla was found in 2296. First journal reports surface in Marlin Duval's colony she helped establish enroute to Achenar (Taylor Colony, Tau Ceti).

I am fairly certain I can find it this year and probably by mid-February (but definitely before the one year anniversary that my first edition of the Raxxla theory went live on the forums - April 1st, 2021). I have an exceptionally short list of candidates that meet the necessary criteria. No, the Alleged Toast is not useful for anything beyond start at Sol. However, the legend of Soontill is likely applicable even if it were faked as they needed a believable cover story (but please promise me you won't go looking at Soontill system which is 218.47 LY from Achenar). There is literally no ways anyone had any capacity to get anywhere near that region at that point in time. RAXXLA predates even Soontill and Lave.
 

Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
I believe someone at FD said it’s not canon if it’s not in Galnet, Tourist Beacons or Codex.
If someone can give me that reference I’ll put it in my FD Quotes thread.
 

Han_Zen

Han_Zen
CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian said:
So, to recap where we are:
-2296 is solidly in the pre-hyperspace era of genaration ships.
-Rapid Expansion era doesn't begin until 2300.
-There is only one ship that could have actually made the journey to Achenar in the history of the lore at that necessary point in time (2097-2296).
-No other generation ship observed has exceed 0.25 LY/year and thus all other generation ships could only have only gotten 45.77 LY from their origin by 2296.
-That ship (the Mayflower 97) departed in 2097 from Earth's Moon orbit and was headed by Marlin Duval.
-The path is known reasonably accurately:
Sol -> Tau Ceti -> Achenar

Confidence: High confidence given the ship could at maximum have only gotten 119.4 LY between 2097 and 2296 at 0.6 LY/year).
-Marlin Duval died in 2296. Raxxla was found in 2296. First journal reports surface in Marlin Duval's colony she helped establish enroute to Achenar (Taylor Colony, Tau Ceti).

I am fairly certain I can find it this year and probably by mid-February (but definitely before the one year anniversary that my first edition of the Raxxla theory went live on the forums - April 1st, 2021). I have an exceptionally short list of candidates that meet the necessary criteria. No, the Alleged Toast is not useful for anything beyond start at Sol. However, the legend of Soontill is likely applicable even if it were faked as they needed a believable cover story (but please promise me you won't go looking at Soontill system which is 218.47 LY from Achenar). There is literally no ways anyone had any capacity to get anywhere near that region at that point in time. RAXXLA predates even Soontill and Lave.
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Marlin Duval and her crews would have had access to hyperscpace travel during the migration to Achenar. Hyperspace travel was no publicly available at that time, but the technology had been around for 150 years.

It is not practically possible to reach Achenar in that time, by sub light travel. Sub light vessels don't travel at a set max velocity. They accelerate as long as the engines runs. The Mayflower is traveling at 0.6 light speed in the 3250s, because it has been accelerating slowly for more than 1100 years.

I also doubt that Raxxla was discovered in exactly 2296. If a random spacer mentioned it casually, the name would have been relatively common knowledge.

This does not mean that Raxxla isn't connected to the colonisation of Achenar. The time frame is valid, just like with the discovery of the non human relic.
Achenar did have sentient Mudlarks, at the time of discovery. If Raxxla was used by an advanced space traveling species to oversee or manipulate the development of primitive sentient beings, it may have been moved from Sol to Achenar when 'project humans' was finished.
If so, Raxxla was possibly moved again when the Mudlarks went extinct. :unsure:
 

Han_Zen

Han_Zen
Jorki Rasalas said:
I believe someone at FD said it’s not canon if it’s not in Galnet, Tourist Beacons or Codex.
If someone can give me that reference I’ll put it in my FD Quotes thread.
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The ED books are also canon. There are details in them that are off after the retcon, but not much. Basically only the Thargoid / Alliance diplomacy from the 3250s.
 

CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian

CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian
Unfortunately, that isn't all that is at stake here. The theory for Raxxla also must be able to explain the following:

-Sol is government center of humanity at this point so why in the heck does the first mention of Raxxla show up in Tau Ceti?
-Why does Tau Ceti declare independence almost immediately per tourist beacons and not rejoin until the Federation government of the United States transforms into the modern Federation when the Federal Founders sign the document that created the modern Federation?
-What makes Sol, Tau Ceti, Beti Hydri, and Achenar so important that they have special white stations that are not tourism stations? The best known of these is Black Mausoleum in Beta Hydri and is ultimately built by the fledgling Marlin's Republic or the very first Emperor per the Wanted official novel at some point before 3250.

There is more at stake here than meets the eye. I think we ultimately need Marlin Duval to have been directly involved in Tau Ceti to explain why the rumor surfaces in Tau Ceti itself and not elsewhere. Also, the Interplanetary Road Trip tourist beacon in Sol is going to be quite important here, too (see
Source: https://youtu.be/A0FZIwabctw
).

Hint: Go read/listen to The Dark Wheel codex entry. I think Starman is but one proof that will be eventually found at a long disused starport orbiting the 8th moon of a unnamed gas giant. I am 99.99% sure that The Dark Wheel forms in Sol, itself.
 
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Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
Han_Zen said:
The ED books are also canon. There are details in them that are off after the retcon, but not much. Basically only the Thargoid / Alliance diplomacy from the 3250s.
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Makes sense for the books to be canon, else why proof read and push them, supported with some in-game “facts”. Pity they didnt do a better job of that support (e.g. where are all the Dynasty ELW beacons). I’d just like an FD quote on what is canon so I can update my FDQuotes thread! 😁
 

Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
Han_Zen said:
Marlin Duval and her crews would have had access to hyperscpace travel during the migration to Achenar. Hyperspace travel was no publicly available at that time, but the technology had been around for 150 years.

It is not practically possible to reach Achenar in that time, by sub light travel. Sub light vessels don't travel at a set max velocity. They accelerate as long as the engines runs. The Mayflower is traveling at 0.6 light speed in the 3250s, because it has been accelerating slowly for more than 1100 years.

I also doubt that Raxxla was discovered in exactly 2296. If a random spacer mentioned it casually, the name would have been relatively common knowledge.

This does not mean that Raxxla isn't connected to the colonisation of Achenar. The time frame is valid, just like with the discovery of the non human relic.
Achenar did have sentient Mudlarks, at the time of discovery. If Raxxla was used by an advanced space traveling species to oversee or manipulate the development of primitive sentient beings, it may have been moved from Sol to Achenar when 'project humans' was finished.
If so, Raxxla was possibly moved again when the Mudlarks went extinct. :unsure:
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Not saying Raxxla is Guardian...
But it’s Guardian!! 😉
I think humanity was a bio-engineered prey species!
Biology 13 “Non-indigenous animals were considered a particular delicacy. The Guardians expansion into space introduced them to new ecologies and, consequently, to new food. So far I’ve had little success in determining the details of these alien creatures or where they were obtained, but it was certainly a valuable trade for the Guardians. Huge parks and reserves were constructed on their worlds where they could hunt both local and imported animals.”

Raxxla is either a Guardian ark ship, or a meat processing plant! 😁

Git yorrr Boris Burger 'ere!
 
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Allen Stroud

Allen Stroud
CMDRCorrMorningstarFelian said:
-Why does Tau Ceti declare independence almost immediately per tourist beacons and not rejoin until the Federation government of the United States transforms into the modern Federation when the Federal Founders sign the document that created the modern Federation?
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I wrote about that in Sagittarius Eye. I forget which issue. The article was called "Not the Future Our Ancestors Imagined".

Edit: Here's a link -
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYXSCMhyX1M
 

CMDRGURU951

CMDRGURU951
Humanity always has the highest hopes for our actions and responses, despite the vast history proving that our species is not only violent by nature, but also possibly a warring species. As a collective it is far too easy to guide the masses by those in positions of power and status. It should be no surprise to any of us that humanity would choose the destructive paths yet again. The lack of understanding the Thargoids motives is one of the largest chasms in our understanding of what's going on with them.
I get asked repeatedly "What are their motives?" My answer remains the same the whole time, "I do not know."

Wonderful video.
 

Pyroboros

Pyroboros
May i join the discussion?
I would like to apprehend something from a few pages above.

Someone said "how would we even know if we have found Raxxla?"
It can't be a Message popping up, not an Object called Raxxla.
Everything that contains the string Raxxla would have had been Dataminned.
I was looking many places. mostly Omphalos stuff like i tried the system farthest away from the GalMap Borders. Tried to find a System whit 0;0;0 (64;32;64) in Stellar Forge Coordinates (not Sol based).
I was LandScapeSingnal hunting and so on.
JadeJadeJade ...

Now i have returned to the Game, to see what Odyssey has for me.
Surprise my hunting instincts were awakened again by the new GalMap Search Bar.
Before, you couldn't see this list. She was there, but only brought you to the next entry without showing your name. you only saw the system name on which the cursor stopped.
Some systems had the behavior that you had to click several times (i only remember 2x) until the next entry was jumped to. this behavior is explained by the new search.
I started to look for things that ain't there.

Here the odd Stuff:
Try type J[Spacebar] in the Search Bar. U will see 3 entries without a Symbol on the left side that shows what type of Object it is.
-Jackson's Cave | Jackson's Lighthouse (searched if already Solved but no Luck)
-Jait | Kevenland
-Jaitinder Singh | Kevenland (only 2 Stars no pop no nothing)

Since i am only interestet in Raxxla why would i care.
-Jackson's Cave may be part of the solution anyway (have not diged in to that as much)
-Jackson's Lighthouse is a Neutron Star (Pulsar) also maybe part of the puzzle

-But most importantly if we find a way to track something down that we think must be there but is not. we may gain a new tool/way to verify/falsify if Raxxla is in the System we think it is. And if not try the next hypothesis. I can spit out new hypothesis on a hourly basis, but whit no way to test them they not much usefull.

(I need to find that post again) Many thanks to the person who wrote that post i was mentioning. Thx for bringing me back to the root of logic reasoning.
So my currend goal is to try if there is something to discover in Jackson's Lighthouse.
Eighter by finding it. Or FDEV stepping out the shadow and state that there is a glitch... whatever.

If u think this is worth a look.
here is what have i found in Jackson's Lighthouse so far:
A Singnal (i am trying to find a way to uploade a recording)
U can only hear it in normal Space. it gets quieter for every other sounds. Even Engines at 15ms will silence it.
it is only present if closer to 7.13ls from Jackson's Lighthouse and pointing in a geneal Direction. (could'nt pinpoint any specific direction.)

What i forgot:
There is a Body missing in SOL between Saturn and Uranus
Body 20 is Iapetus Saturns outer Moon (in ED at least)
Body 22 Is Uranus
I looked at every Body, Barycenter and belts (Barycenters and AstroidBelts are also Bodys at least if u ask the engine)
So if something is there this may also serve the goal of getting some verifier in our hands.


--Not native englich speaker but tryed my best so if i in any way offended you whit anything here... Well actually i do not care :) Fly Save CMDR's

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electro

electro
Pyroboros said:
May i join the discussion?
I would like to apprehend something from a few pages above.

Someone said "how would we even know if we have found Raxxla?"
It can't be a Message popping up, not an Object called Raxxla.
Everything that contains the string Raxxla would have had been Dataminned.
I was looking many places. mostly Omphalos stuff like i tried the system farthest away from the GalMap Borders. Tried to find a System whit 0;0;0 (64;32;64) in Stellar Forge Coordinates (not Sol based).
I was LandScapeSingnal hunting and so on.
JadeJadeJade ...

Now i have returned to the Game, to see what Odyssey has for me.
Surprise my hunting instincts were awakened again by the new GalMap Search Bar.
Before, you couldn't see this list. She was there, but only brought you to the next entry without showing your name. you only saw the system name on which the cursor stopped.
Some systems had the behavior that you had to click several times (i only remember 2x) until the next entry was jumped to. this behavior is explained by the new search.
I started to look for things that ain't there.

Here the odd Stuff:
Try type J[Spacebar] in the Search Bar. U will see 3 entries without a Symbol on the left side that shows what type of Object it is.
-Jackson's Cave | Jackson's Lighthouse (searched if already Solved but no Luck)
-Jait | Kevenland
-Jaitinder Singh | Kevenland (only 2 Stars no pop no nothing)

Since i am only interestet in Raxxla why would i care.
-Jackson's Cave may be part of the solution anyway (have not diged in to that as much)
-Jackson's Lighthouse is a Neutron Star (Pulsar) also maybe part of the puzzle

-But most importantly if we find a way to track something down that we think must be there but is not. we may gain a new tool/way to verify/falsify if Raxxla is in the System we think it is. And if not try the next hypothesis. I can spit out new hypothesis on a hourly basis, but whit no way to test them they not much usefull.

(I need to find that post again) Many thanks to the person who wrote that post i was mentioning. Thx for bringing me back to the root of logic reasoning.
So my currend goal is to try if there is something to discover in Jackson's Lighthouse.
Eighter by finding it. Or FDEV stepping out the shadow and state that there is a glitch... whatever.

If u think this is worth a look.
here is what have i found in Jackson's Lighthouse so far:
A Singnal (i am trying to find a way to uploade a recording)
U can only hear it in normal Space. it gets quieter for every other sounds. Even Engines at 15ms will silence it.
it is only present if closer to 7.13ls from Jackson's Lighthouse and pointing in a geneal Direction. (could'nt pinpoint any specific direction.)

What i forgot:
There is a Body missing in SOL between Saturn and Uranus
Body 20 is Iapetus Saturns outer Moon (in ED at least)
Body 22 Is Uranus
I looked at every Body, Barycenter and belts (Barycenters and AstroidBelts are also Bodys at least if u ask the engine)
So if something is there this may also serve the goal of getting some verifier in our hands.


--Not native englich speaker but tryed my best so if i in any way offended you whit anything here... Well actually i do not care :) Fly Save CMDR's

-edit here is a short mp3 of it
Click to expand...
Body 21 should be 2060 chiron but since it is impossible to know exactly where it regarding which REAL date current sol orrey has been set to. I has flown to the exact location where chiron aka the key should be in the year 3308, and there was none. As discussed before, it hard to make the location of it in orbit exact for many 100 years since our data today is not as exakt. Even Stellarium has some discrepancies in it orbits regarding chiron.
 
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Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
electro said:
Body 21 should be charon but since it is impossible to know exactly where it regarding which REAL date current sol orrey has been set to. I has flown to the exact location where charon aka the key should be in the year 3308, and there was none. As discussed before, it hard to make the location of it in orbit exact for many 100 years since our data today is not as exakt. Even Stellarium has some discrepancies in it orbits regarding charon.
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Thought #21 is Halley’s Comet?
 

Pyroboros

Pyroboros
electro said:
Body 21 should be charon but since it is impossible to know exactly where it regarding which REAL date current sol orrey has been set to. I has flown to the exact location where charon aka the key should be in the year 3308, and there was none. As discussed before, it hard to make the location of it in orbit exact for many 100 years since our data today is not as exakt. Even Stellarium has some discrepancies in it orbits regarding charon.
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You mean Chiron? Charon is Body#32 (PlutosMoon) Pluto 31 BaryCenter Pluto/Charon30
Chirons Orbit would fit at #21
 

CMDR Kryss

C
So in the Raxxla codex, the Dark Wheel toast mentions 8th moon of a gas giant… nowhere does it state that this gas giant has ONLY 8 moons.

It could have 10 moons for all we know.
Why has no one talked about that? Everyone is looking for a planet with 8 🤷‍♂️
 
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Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
Not me!! Don’t believe a word of it!!

Codex says “According to self-professed Dark Wheel expert Lyta Crane ... ... ... rival experts have accused Crane of forging her evidence in order to maintain the revenue from her billions of followers.”

And there is no evidence that TDW and Raxxla are linked. And you are confused- that bit about 8th moon is in the TDW codex, not the Raxxla codex. 🙂
 
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