I'll show my work when I have time tomorrow but I am pretty sure it passed close to an unauthorized installation in Gendalla named Innsmouth Rock orbiting the 8th moon of an unnamed gas giant. Also, Innsmouth is totally a Cthulhu reference.
The Quest To Find Raxxla
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I wonder… does FD decision to drop Console support, and effectively focus on the EDO engine, mean that they won’t apply ED narratively across Console and EDH?
For instance, if that’s true and the real DW and Raxxla are narratively locked, will you need EDO to experience it?
*Just rattling the golden apple tree…
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For instance, if that’s true and the real DW and Raxxla are narratively locked, will you need EDO to experience it?
*Just rattling the golden apple tree…
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Given that it's been in the game since launch, and has been able to be found by anyone. Why do you think it would be narratively locked?
I'd go further and say the lore is both the hindrance and the savior depending on how much trust you have in The Pilot's Federation and in GalNet more generally.
Do you have confirmation that’s ‘accessible’. Please enlighten?
I presume there is a reasonable level of doubt to inform it could be narratively locked. Based upon FD modus operandi and that absence of any evidence to show it is currently accessible.
I however also want to believe it is accessible.
There is an assumption that the DW is narratively locked. Because FD were asked if the DW faction and theoretical invite was currently accessible, and FD did respond saying that, certain factions and invites/permits were not currently active…
I take that to indicate that there does exist some future narratively lock content….be it Raxxla, the real DW or something else. If FD are not going to focus upon EDH code (as I understand it), then would said future content need EDO to interact with it…
This is obviously my very obvious attempt to obtain proof that yes Raxxla is currently ‘accessible’. There is to date zero evidence to prove it can be experienced… yes it’s in game… but so technically is ‘future locked/narrative content’.
There is an element of doubt which needs resolution.
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Ozric
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Like with most things, things degrade over time and so finding of things like the lore interview Michael Brookes did with DJ Truthsayer back in 2016/17 are very hard. But there are references to both David Braben and Mike Brookes confirming it is in game and accessible.
Raxxla
Cora comes home soused and raving with wild stories, a new one every night. She claims she's found a map to some pirate stash, and all I have to do is loan her my ship so we can go dig it up. Maybe we should go find Raxxla while we're at it! — From the journal of Art Tornqvist, circa 2296 Raxxla...
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If it narratively locked, why would FD wait 7 years to unlock it?
I totally agree; I am of course playing devils advocate.
I would concede it is actually discoverable - as I outlined in my own findings…
Yet it is evident that from 2016/2017 something changed. I suspect they altered something. So I don’t think we can rely on the historical statements…none of which actually state it’s accessible… those statements in my opinion actually allude to a past and now dropped narrative… it’s an unknown, that is suspicious, yes I know it’s pendantic, but it’s an intelligence gap in my opinion which could either set our efforts in concrete, and give us further energy towards finding it, or alleviate our Fernweh.
Yes it is absurd to think, why develop an element 7 years ago, to only narratively lock it for a future experience (Looks at galaxy map, how many locked sectors of space?).
I am simply endeavouring to harvest information out of FD…one never knows what fresh data might fall if you don’t rattle the apple tree once in a while…
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I would concede it is actually discoverable - as I outlined in my own findings…
Yet it is evident that from 2016/2017 something changed. I suspect they altered something. So I don’t think we can rely on the historical statements…none of which actually state it’s accessible… those statements in my opinion actually allude to a past and now dropped narrative… it’s an unknown, that is suspicious, yes I know it’s pendantic, but it’s an intelligence gap in my opinion which could either set our efforts in concrete, and give us further energy towards finding it, or alleviate our Fernweh.
Yes it is absurd to think, why develop an element 7 years ago, to only narratively lock it for a future experience (Looks at galaxy map, how many locked sectors of space?).
I am simply endeavouring to harvest information out of FD…one never knows what fresh data might fall if you don’t rattle the apple tree once in a while…
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@Ozric : Strictly speaking Rochester is perfectly correct, we have no confirmation that Raxxla is accessible!
Though the participants in this thread operate on hope!!!
My signature links to my thread containing useful links to FD statements...
DB has said to Drew Wagar that Raxxla is in game.
DB confirmed on record (livestream) that Raxxla is in-game (but we dont know what it is).
MB said (DJtruthsayer interview) Raxxla is in the Milky Way, it’s a personal journey and you have to make some of it a little bit obvious so people know what they’re doing (edit: wish that were true!!). Also (elsewhere) that it is a definite place, and can be found by more than one player.
(Edit: if you have a reference for the “it is accessible” then please tell & I’ll add it to the quotes thread)
There is an unsubstantiated report by Ascorbius that MB said that the system containing Raxxla had been visited and honked but Raxxla was not discovered. If true this might discredit the rumour that Raxxla is somehow locked away from discovery in an unknown permit system like Polaris (though some systems were locked fairly late after some had already been visited in-game, e.g. around Col70); I asked a CM to check this rumour with MB and got the response that MB would not comment.
So, we Quest and tilt at Raxxla-shaped windmills in the hope that we stand a chance of finding it, at least until Horizons dies on PC the death that DB’s “console update” message seems to imply....
Though the participants in this thread operate on hope!!!
My signature links to my thread containing useful links to FD statements...
DB has said to Drew Wagar that Raxxla is in game.
DB confirmed on record (livestream) that Raxxla is in-game (but we dont know what it is).
MB said (DJtruthsayer interview) Raxxla is in the Milky Way, it’s a personal journey and you have to make some of it a little bit obvious so people know what they’re doing (edit: wish that were true!!). Also (elsewhere) that it is a definite place, and can be found by more than one player.
(Edit: if you have a reference for the “it is accessible” then please tell & I’ll add it to the quotes thread)
There is an unsubstantiated report by Ascorbius that MB said that the system containing Raxxla had been visited and honked but Raxxla was not discovered. If true this might discredit the rumour that Raxxla is somehow locked away from discovery in an unknown permit system like Polaris (though some systems were locked fairly late after some had already been visited in-game, e.g. around Col70); I asked a CM to check this rumour with MB and got the response that MB would not comment.
So, we Quest and tilt at Raxxla-shaped windmills in the hope that we stand a chance of finding it, at least until Horizons dies on PC the death that DB’s “console update” message seems to imply....
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I think there was a hint in "Console update" post, David Braben said "We need to be able to move forward with the story of the game, and in order for us to do this we need to focus on a single codebase." I think they may finally unlock The Dark Wheel quest.
In my opinion DB is referencing the EDO story, aka the Azimuth and emergence of Thargoids on foot combat.
EDO has stalled for a year, that means the Azimuth storyline has stalled too, they have held back as long as they can, but they have to release the remaining content of EDO as a season, and I suspect the emergence of Thargoids on legs is tied directly into the Azimuth saga.
If the DW or Raxxla is unfortunately narratively tied to EDO that would be regrettable, but at least relief that it was imminent!
AT did reference Raxxla in his ‘Channel 4’ skit saying it was just around the corner. And AT use of words in the ‘Pilot’ interview that of ‘the pay off’ etc was the same term he used relatively regards the Azimuth in the same interview…a thin link but maybe, let’s hope so.
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This is going to be spoiler heavy so expect heavy usage of spoiler tagging to protect those who don't want to know this without going there themselves:
Listening post @
LHS 2206 planet 2
…Transponder Signal THE-288-A Detected…
Matching Signal Detected. Nefertem. Time Stamp Predates Parameters.
I’ve done it…signal…identify…confusing…originates… Who sent it…idea…good news…message…translator….again and again… It says…
…Signal Lost…
Matching Signal Detected. Nefertem. Time Stamp Predates Parameters.
I’ve done it…signal…identify…confusing…originates… Who sent it…idea…good news…message…translator….again and again… It says…
…Signal Lost…
MADNESS AND GHOSTS 1/5
Comms Log 905.2.34
Still all quiet out here in the black. Just had our very first ninth-gen child born on ship. That takes the current population to 17,401. Other than that, nothing out of the ordinary. Apart from reports from some residents at the northern end of C-Deck. They’ve heard some kind of strange whispering sound coming from their apartment comms unit. I’m sure it’s nothing, but I’ve dispatched a member of tech to investigate
Still all quiet out here in the black. Just had our very first ninth-gen child born on ship. That takes the current population to 17,401. Other than that, nothing out of the ordinary. Apart from reports from some residents at the northern end of C-Deck. They’ve heard some kind of strange whispering sound coming from their apartment comms unit. I’m sure it’s nothing, but I’ve dispatched a member of tech to investigate
MADNESS AND GHOSTS 2/5
Comms Log 907.6.34
We have an emergency situation on board. Some kind of epidemic, it’s driving people insane. I’ve managed to source it to a digital signal that keeps broadcasting within the comms array. It started on C-Deck, but now the entire population of decks C to F have been massacred. They just went crazy and started killing each other.
I’ve isolated the signal, so it’s stopped for now. Just trying to identify the source. It should be easy enough to delete the beacon if I can find the right frequency. I wanna know what the message says, but I’m… I’m just too scared to listen.
We have an emergency situation on board. Some kind of epidemic, it’s driving people insane. I’ve managed to source it to a digital signal that keeps broadcasting within the comms array. It started on C-Deck, but now the entire population of decks C to F have been massacred. They just went crazy and started killing each other.
I’ve isolated the signal, so it’s stopped for now. Just trying to identify the source. It should be easy enough to delete the beacon if I can find the right frequency. I wanna know what the message says, but I’m… I’m just too scared to listen.
MADNESS AND GHOSTS 3/5
Comms Log 908.7.34
I’ve done it. I’ve managed to decrypt the signal and identify the source. But it’s even more confusing than I thought. The signal originates from an uninhabited planet we passed 15 light years ago. Who sent it and how it managed to infect the comms array I have no idea.
That’s the good news. The bad news is, I heard the message. I was trying to run it through the translator and I forgot the speaker was on. It’s the same message relayed again and again and again – it’s more a whisper than anything else; it says, ‘kill them all’…
I’ve done it. I’ve managed to decrypt the signal and identify the source. But it’s even more confusing than I thought. The signal originates from an uninhabited planet we passed 15 light years ago. Who sent it and how it managed to infect the comms array I have no idea.
That’s the good news. The bad news is, I heard the message. I was trying to run it through the translator and I forgot the speaker was on. It’s the same message relayed again and again and again – it’s more a whisper than anything else; it says, ‘kill them all’…
MADNESS AND GHOSTS 4/5
Comms Log 900.0.04
Blood. Blood everywhere. It’s spread on the walls – people have started writing words in it but it’s a script I can’t identify. I’m alone now on the comms deck. Pearson was the last one with me but I had to stab him in the throat to stop him… stop him… I can’t remember what I had to stop him doing but… he’s dead now.
I can hear people out there. Some of them are still walking around. Some of them are barely breathing. I have to find them. I have to silence them. I have to…
Blood. Blood everywhere. It’s spread on the walls – people have started writing words in it but it’s a script I can’t identify. I’m alone now on the comms deck. Pearson was the last one with me but I had to stab him in the throat to stop him… stop him… I can’t remember what I had to stop him doing but… he’s dead now.
I can hear people out there. Some of them are still walking around. Some of them are barely breathing. I have to find them. I have to silence them. I have to…
MADNESS AND GHOSTS 5/5
C_mm_ Lo_ 000.0.00 ….k.l……h.m……..l……………….
NOTE: Re-evaluation is likely to alter initial guess re: Unauthorized installation at Gendalla.
Likely path: Sol -> {straight line} ->
LHS 2206
Nefertem
Nearest system on first leg:
Procyon
Dating system: years.hours.minutes (supposition based on calculated speed - Mayflower 97 was capable of 0.6 LY/year)
Distance of first leg: 33.27 LY
Distance of second leg: 27.46 LY
Total Distance: 60.73 LY
Speed estimate based on latest date stamp: 60.73 LY/908 years = 0.06688325 LY/year
Location of nearest unauthorized installation: Wormfast Camp @ Ross 154 (20.71 LY from reference system on first leg)
WARNING: HIGH DEGREE OF UNCERTAINTY:
Last date stamp in log 4 of 5 indicate either a time anomaly or somehow clock is altered as it is earlier than log 3 of 5.
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Yes, it was leaked years ago that the 10 year game plan was for goids to invade & take over the bubble, humanity would flee and have to fight a guerrilla war against them. The Dynasty plot was part & parcel of that, as is the Colonia bridge which has just been finished-after a protracted delay (we’re now 6 years in!). So I guess FD really had to drop the thing that was delaying everything, else the whole game would come to a grinding halt. Clearly fighting goids on foot is to be a big part of that war (though I’m a bit concerned if Horizons is to be dropped/wont get content updates & EDO is not yet a finished product).
But I really dont think TDW or Raxxla are part of that storyline. I still think Raxxla is Guardian, either one of their ark ships or an AI construct. I definitely think one of them is behind the Pilot’s Federation. We know the several cliques of PF are a thing-think Rochester proved that in a response from Customer Support that the different spellings are not a bug. So how do we get Allied with the other factions?
1 Pilots Federation Local Branch -PFDemocracy 0 controlled stations 0 controlled systems. Davanix reported he got Allied after combat in the Jupiter Rochester HIP 54530 CG. Other CG support perhaps?
2 Pilots’ Federation Administration - PFCorporate 5 systems 7 stations Otegine/Aldrich, Matet/Coelho, Dromi/Mawson+Dimery+Aitkins, Sharur/Archias, Orna/ Fuzong however all these systems need Pilot’s Federation permit-newbies area!! Recently implemented so unlikely to be relevant?
3 Pilots’ Federation Local Branch - PFDemocracy 0 stations 0 systems - in ShinDez & I’m Allied by running missions for the faction at Jameson Memorial
4 PilotsFederation - no detail! -I’m allied via rescue missions & Thargoid kills 0 stations 0 systems
5 The Pilots Federation - IndependentDemocracy 0 stations 0 systems Shinrarta Dezhra according to EDSM-but not convinced on that!
So:
Pilots’ Federation (Admin for noobs area, Local for ShinDez & ally by Jameson missions)
PilotsFederation ( ally by killing goids &/or rescueing passengers from damaged stations)
Pilots Federation (Local) - CG?
The Pilots Federation ???
How do we ally with the last two?
Edit: I’m hypothesising that Raxxla access requires all four cliques to be allied... else why have them?
But I really dont think TDW or Raxxla are part of that storyline. I still think Raxxla is Guardian, either one of their ark ships or an AI construct. I definitely think one of them is behind the Pilot’s Federation. We know the several cliques of PF are a thing-think Rochester proved that in a response from Customer Support that the different spellings are not a bug. So how do we get Allied with the other factions?
1 Pilots Federation Local Branch -PFDemocracy 0 controlled stations 0 controlled systems. Davanix reported he got Allied after combat in the Jupiter Rochester HIP 54530 CG. Other CG support perhaps?
2 Pilots’ Federation Administration - PFCorporate 5 systems 7 stations Otegine/Aldrich, Matet/Coelho, Dromi/Mawson+Dimery+Aitkins, Sharur/Archias, Orna/ Fuzong however all these systems need Pilot’s Federation permit-newbies area!! Recently implemented so unlikely to be relevant?
3 Pilots’ Federation Local Branch - PFDemocracy 0 stations 0 systems - in ShinDez & I’m Allied by running missions for the faction at Jameson Memorial
4 PilotsFederation - no detail! -I’m allied via rescue missions & Thargoid kills 0 stations 0 systems
5 The Pilots Federation - IndependentDemocracy 0 stations 0 systems Shinrarta Dezhra according to EDSM-but not convinced on that!
So:
Pilots’ Federation (Admin for noobs area, Local for ShinDez & ally by Jameson missions)
PilotsFederation ( ally by killing goids &/or rescueing passengers from damaged stations)
Pilots Federation (Local) - CG?
The Pilots Federation ???
How do we ally with the last two?
Edit: I’m hypothesising that Raxxla access requires all four cliques to be allied... else why have them?
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Unfortunately at this point I also agree Raxxla has been narrative locked and will be Odyssey only content.... Unfortunately -_-"
It's somthing I've been worried about since ED officially said space legs were coming with Odyssey..... though I was hopeful that Odyssey was coming to Xbox One and PS4 as we were basically led to believe until yesterday, so wasn't too concerned about the loss of not being able to find it until the content came....
Anyways... hear me out, I'll try to explain my horrible theory that I hate that might be true...
If we make the assumption, based on the codex entries being added at the same time, that the DW and Raxxla 'narratives' are at the very least, connected in some way, especially since they reference each other... then we can make some more assumptions... (one big one that kinda has to be made for this to work, is the DW have indeed found Raxxla/know how to locate it when needed/have a massive clue required, but this is the only shaky part)
If we assume the DW is a required link to Raxxla narratives, then we have the Odyssey problem....
It's been recently discussed and 'confirmed' the DW station is not/has not been, in game, thus far... Well.... If the DW Station, specifically, is required to continue the Raxxla narrative... and the station has not been ingame, there are 2 fair assumptions we can make.
1) Raxxla, even if in game, is inaccessible due to narrative lock of DW Station not in game, or is only accessible thru the complete randomness of stumbling upon it with the correct requirements met, but no direct clues are available without the DW station, so effectively its inaccessible
2) DW Station has not been in game BECAUSE of the lore that goes with it. The Station requires Odyssey and Space Legs. The lore says they have artifacts that can be examined to proove the DW are the real DW, since the first time I read that, I've believed space legs would be required to do it... how else other than random stuff floating in orbit around or inside a station, or just sitting on the surface of a planet out in the open, could you have inspectable artifacts, if not on foot with Odyssey within a Station?
So, if the DW Station isn't in game because of the need for Odyssey, then Raxxla as well would be locked to that game fork. ALTHOUGH, once the narrative is played out in the player base, it could be possible to make the Odyssey walking in station part not required and just getting to the station in Horizons, being enough. But I think, I feel like, Fdev have decided to lock, atleast the initial discovery of, the DW and Raxxla to Odyssey due to the lore associated with them....
But anyways, it could be very possible that pre-Odyssey may not get access ever to the DW and Raxxla narratives if this is all true....which it's looking more and more like it might be...
It's somthing I've been worried about since ED officially said space legs were coming with Odyssey..... though I was hopeful that Odyssey was coming to Xbox One and PS4 as we were basically led to believe until yesterday, so wasn't too concerned about the loss of not being able to find it until the content came....
Anyways... hear me out, I'll try to explain my horrible theory that I hate that might be true...
If we make the assumption, based on the codex entries being added at the same time, that the DW and Raxxla 'narratives' are at the very least, connected in some way, especially since they reference each other... then we can make some more assumptions... (one big one that kinda has to be made for this to work, is the DW have indeed found Raxxla/know how to locate it when needed/have a massive clue required, but this is the only shaky part)
If we assume the DW is a required link to Raxxla narratives, then we have the Odyssey problem....
It's been recently discussed and 'confirmed' the DW station is not/has not been, in game, thus far... Well.... If the DW Station, specifically, is required to continue the Raxxla narrative... and the station has not been ingame, there are 2 fair assumptions we can make.
1) Raxxla, even if in game, is inaccessible due to narrative lock of DW Station not in game, or is only accessible thru the complete randomness of stumbling upon it with the correct requirements met, but no direct clues are available without the DW station, so effectively its inaccessible
2) DW Station has not been in game BECAUSE of the lore that goes with it. The Station requires Odyssey and Space Legs. The lore says they have artifacts that can be examined to proove the DW are the real DW, since the first time I read that, I've believed space legs would be required to do it... how else other than random stuff floating in orbit around or inside a station, or just sitting on the surface of a planet out in the open, could you have inspectable artifacts, if not on foot with Odyssey within a Station?
So, if the DW Station isn't in game because of the need for Odyssey, then Raxxla as well would be locked to that game fork. ALTHOUGH, once the narrative is played out in the player base, it could be possible to make the Odyssey walking in station part not required and just getting to the station in Horizons, being enough. But I think, I feel like, Fdev have decided to lock, atleast the initial discovery of, the DW and Raxxla to Odyssey due to the lore associated with them....
But anyways, it could be very possible that pre-Odyssey may not get access ever to the DW and Raxxla narratives if this is all true....which it's looking more and more like it might be...
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I think there are a lot of story lines left undeveloped. Not just the Thargoids. It's obvious something is there's with the region locked areas in/around Barnard's Loop.
But then you have the guardian sites in Norma's Arm with a region locked area associated with those. Some.region locked areas in the Formidine Rift....
And my latest "wild " raxxla theory, '... mother of Galaxies..." = Sag A, then on to the '....siren of the deep' could be Andromeda who was saved from the depths by Perseus.... Well, there are several close region locked areas, "north" of Sag A, in the Perseus Stem! Some what desperate I know, but keeps me entertained
But my serious point is that it is obvious there are many stories still open, under-developed or just forgotten but unfinished!
But then you have the guardian sites in Norma's Arm with a region locked area associated with those. Some.region locked areas in the Formidine Rift....
And my latest "wild " raxxla theory, '... mother of Galaxies..." = Sag A, then on to the '....siren of the deep' could be Andromeda who was saved from the depths by Perseus.... Well, there are several close region locked areas, "north" of Sag A, in the Perseus Stem! Some what desperate I know, but keeps me entertained
But my serious point is that it is obvious there are many stories still open, under-developed or just forgotten but unfinished!
I think there is also a lot where they are partially developing the groundwork for a story arc for with the intention to expand on it as events unfold that will get people deeper into the galaxy (especially with the Deep Space Support Array (https://fleetcarrier.space/search/dssa) of regional fleet carries) and fleet carriers spreading across the galaxy.I think there are a lot of story lines left undeveloped. Not just the Thargoids. It's obvious something is there's with the region locked areas in/around Barnard's Loop.
But then you have the guardian sites in Norma's Arm with a region locked area associated with those. Some.region locked areas in the Formidine Rift....
And my latest "wild " raxxla theory, '... mother of Galaxies..." = Sag A, then on to the '....siren of the deep' could be Andromeda who was saved from the depths by Perseus.... Well, there are several close region locked areas, "north" of Sag A, in the Perseus Stem! Some what desperate I know, but keeps me entertained
But my serious point is that it is obvious there are many stories still open, under-developed or just forgotten but unfinished!
In case you were wondering, there are lots of billionaire CMDRs.
One of them is Shindez ATR. I don't remember exactly
The missing letters was analyzed in this post: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threa...etis-investigation.350810/page-4#post-9006404
Aka.
From what I can see, it is possible to get the anagram:
GALILEOST, as in either 'ST' for station, Galileo for name.
Abbreviations for 'TX' (transmission), 'B' for beacon and similar things have been used before in previous mysteries. For example, see notes at the end of the page for Proteus
What does this mean then?
I don't know.
- Jewel, still refers to Sol (As in the Simguru Pranav Antal speech on galnet)
- Thetis appear stronger in the case being 'the whisperer'. If "Galileo Station" is to be believed to be a back reference to confirm the previous step?
- ... now what?
3. Also noticed in Wikipedia that "55 Cancri b (abbreviated 55 Cnc b), occasionally designated 55 Cancri Ab (to distinguish it from the star 55 Cancri B), also named Galileo"
However, this is not present in EDO with those names. HIP 43587 can be found, which is Rho Cancri
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Anything is possible.
I always imagined that the real DW station had voice acted data points, which you simply read… and they replicated the Older DW missions?!
I do hope both are in game, I honestly do…and I’m about 55% sure they are, maybe…
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