If there is something wrong must fix,
But only a few of you "think" it is broken - the rest of us are happy.
So it cannot be broken, until all say so - not just a few.
If there is something wrong must fix,
lol "single discussion" - "core game features" please dont troll me.
I mean that you say you can not change the core of the game, meaning that the core is "static".
Tell me that's like that in 2010 wargaming tell me that the tanks can not climb the mountains that is at the core of the game and can not be changed.
If there is something wrong must fix, if they can not be removed then they will have to make changes.
To say that the core of the game can not change or update is like saying that we can not upgrade the Linux kernel on a celulalr with android.
This is not an easy discussion if they have 300+ post.
Do not tell me nonsense.
OK, one more try to explain this.
The free SOLO/GROUP/OPEN switching is not a bug, it is a core feature of ED. And as such, there is no need or will to change it. Get used to it or go to play some other game.
I know it's not a BUG hahahahah.
Is becoming a bug, you do not need to explain that to me, I put fix for fun.
Game is fun.
Unless you a griefer, then game not fun.
What was it you said to me the other day, Jockey?[snip]
If my ship has weapons I'm going to use if you are in diferent faction.
Do not ask me not do it, its part of the game. Its funny
Im a griefer?
If to say what I think are a griefer, you're a player mediorcre not want to have more challenges.
Otherwise, learns not to judge the players, if they want to do so with you.
I have my community and have fun doing everything in the game, but never bother anyone.
If my ship has weapons I'm going to use if you are in diferent faction.
Do not ask me not do it, its part of the game. Its funny
I did not say that the game is not fun, for me it is a lot.
I just think you have to change some things, some others did not agree and others believe it is impossible.
What was it you said to me the other day, Jockey?
And as a single-player game. And as a co-op game. If this alone doesn't tell prospective MMO players that they will never be able to force others to play with them in this game, I don't know what will. Perhaps a warning in huge red letters enveloped in a <blink> tag?Whatever the "vision" or "dream" was they are now marketing it as an MMO to the MMO crowd.
Whatever the "vision" or "dream" was they are now marketing it as an MMO to the MMO crowd. Do you think this could be why MMO players are buying this game and then wanting or expecting it to play like an MMO. I have an idea that might have something to do with it!
Slapping a set of horns on a cow doesn't make it a bull!
Slapping instanced, peer to peer multiplayer on a game played mostly in solo mode doesn't make it an MMO!
What I see is a lot of unhappy customers posting on the forums.
The single player guys are complaining about the content that is developed and as you are so quick to point out any work on x by the devs means less work towards y. The work on multiplayer has cost development time and gameplay decisions to be made by the devs.
The multiplayer guys are complaining about the lifeless empty multiplayer.
Both groups aren't happy and this is evident by the million back and forth posts here on the forums. Unhappy players write unhappy reviews! Unhappy players don't bring their friends into the game.
You can bypass this somewhat by just going around PC users and going after console users and this will net some more sales by those aren't aware of the issues but the reviews and word of mouth will hit the new console crowd soon enough then where are they going to go?
1/2 baked solo mode and 1/2 baked multiplayer mode is not a recipe for success I am sure of that!
So why make this thread?, whether Frontier will not change any of this gamemodes, because it is a programming issue or the core.
Then this thread is useless we are all talking here as talkative parrots, without that there is a possibility of change.
If all is well then you better do not write more, a waste of time review this thread.
lol "single discussion" - "core game features" please dont troll me.
I mean that you say you can not change the core of the game, meaning that the core is "static".
Tell me that's like that in 2010 wargaming tell me that the tanks can not climb the mountains that is at the core of the game and can not be changed.
If there is something wrong must fix, if they can not be removed then they will have to make changes.
To say that the core of the game can not change or update is like saying that we can not upgrade the Linux kernel on a celulalr with android.
This is not an easy discussion if they have 300+ post.
Do not tell me nonsense.
I know it's not a BUG hahahahah.
Is becoming a bug, you do not need to explain that to me, I put fix for fun.
Finally, all the same, as it will not change.
MUST greatly improve the gameplay and add more content.
And openplay have to give some value but the opposite will happen.
They will need to give something to play OpenPlay.
For me, someone would have to form a band that is called:
Change the future of music no one to listen and play for the deaf.
Im a griefer?
If to say what I think are a griefer, you're a player mediorcre not want to have more challenges.
Otherwise, learns not to judge the players, if they want to do so with you.
I have my community and have fun doing everything in the game, but never bother anyone.
If my ship has weapons I'm going to use if you are in diferent faction.
Do not ask me not do it, its part of the game. Its funny
I did not say that the game is not fun, for me it is a lot.
I just think you have to change some things, some others did not agree and others believe it is impossible.
You think I'm annoying to say what I think, just a dictator mind thinks so ..
Just trying to be helpful, he said he struggles with English so I'm using small sentences.
Nothing wrong with trying to communicate with someone one their level, as long as you are being polite and not insulting.
And as people have thrown walls of text at him (myself included) and he cannot process it, it is better to change how we communicate
to prevent any further misunderstandings and help be clear on what we are saying.
It would also have been helpful if we knew his native language, as someone here may know it and could respond with details in a language
he can grasp and not one he clearly fails to see the nuances in. Heck there are people born and raised in England who struggle with English.
So expecting someone who is not a native speaker to understand what is going on is a tad rude of us really.
It would also have been helpful if we knew his native language,
Heck there are people born and raised in England who struggle with English.
Im a griefer?
If to say what I think are a griefer, you're a player mediorcre not want to have more challenges.
Otherwise, learns not to judge the players, if they want to do so with you.
I have my community and have fun doing everything in the game, but never bother anyone.
If my ship has weapons I'm going to use if you are in diferent faction.
Do not ask me not do it, its part of the game. Its funny
I did not say that the game is not fun, for me it is a lot.
I just think you have to change some things, some others did not agree and others believe it is impossible.
You think I'm annoying to say what I think, just a dictator mind thinks so ..
Massive Multi Player... hmm 11000 playing together.. is not massive? MMO does not mean PVP, MMO means a lot of people playing together... now if it is supposed to mean everyone playing together I suggest you get on the horn to WOW, SWTOR, and all other MMO's and explain to them how they need to get rid of their separate servers and put everyone on the same shard and get rid of instanced dungeons and such.. I mean .. if they are all supposed to play together, 4 people instanced into an area is unfair and anyone who goes into that area should be able to see each other according to you.
And You are false...while there area a few people from different modes who are upset and that always happens in games. There is no massive outpouring of complaints. Solo players are not complaining, Multiplayer players are not complaining, PVPers are complaining...
The thread was started by those few who cannot accept how the game was made and want it their way.. the mods just combined it into one mega thread. There is possibility of change, there always is, what there is not is a possibility of drastic changes to the game alienating many to pander to the few.. and if is better that you don't write more... why are you still posting??
The perception of a few that "something is wrong" does not equate to something is actually wrong. and you may not want to accuse a mod of Trolling.. not really wise.. and shows a lack of what a troll is
No it is not "becoming a bug" and Open does not need more "value" over other modes..
Actually I think the player mediocre would be someone who relies on destroying other players for their game enjoyment. And it is funny you make a comment about dictator mind since it is people like you who are trying to FORCE others to their gameplay.
Whatever the "vision" or "dream" was they are now marketing it as an MMO to the MMO crowd. Do you think this could be why MMO players are buying this game and then wanting or expecting it to play like an MMO. I have an idea that might have something to do with it!
I at no time said that killing players have to walk everywhere, I said that we must improve the interaction.
And the pvp allows multiple players to join for a common good.
I think the truth there are many heads closed, I enjoy all areas of the game but some have a tremendous fear of encountering players.
And only their ships to kill NPC, I see no harm this, I do too.
But you can greatly improve the game by tasks between players.
Many closed minds is what I see, a shame.
I at no time said that killing players have to walk everywhere, I said that we must improve the interaction. Improving interaction does not include forcing others to play your way.
And the pvp allows multiple players to join for a common good. Common good? PVP allows you to shoot each other.. PVE and those working together is common good.. I'm sorry but no, PVP is Against the "common good" not for it.
I think the truth there are many heads closed, I enjoy all areas of the game but some have a tremendous fear of encountering players. I agree and those closed heads , they are the ones who persistently believe that those who want to play alone or not participate in PVP have a "tremendous fear of encountering players" instead of actually reading the myriad of reasons of why others don't want to play with others... fear has nothing to do with it.
And only their ships to kill NPC, I see no harm this, I do too. That is the whole basis of the game... PVP an added feature.. and one not everyone enjoys.. quit trying to force it on others.
But you can greatly improve the game by tasks between players. Such as Community Goals, Power Play, I get it you play open because you want to play with others, I play Mobius because of the same reason and because no PVP.. Solo players can play as they want. Forcing Solo players to play with other players is not by any sense an "improvement" to the game.
Many closed minds is what I see, a shame.
I play The Crew, a racing game which is marketed as an MMO. Total number of players in a session 8 and the only time you see them is if they are in your immediate area or session. MMO now just means that many people can play the same world at on time, not in the same session or instance.
I used to enjoy PvP, then I took an arrow to the knee...