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Do you want a Open PvE

  • Yes, I want a Open PvE

    Votes: 54 51.4%
  • No, I don't want a Open PvE

    Votes: 49 46.7%
  • I want only Open PvE and PvP only in groups

    Votes: 2 1.9%

  • Total voters
    105
  • Poll closed .
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I think this post from Sandro tells you how they view Powerplay - clearly they don't see it as some kind of team versus team in live ship to ship confrontation - not least because as we know the game simply can't support that.

It's basically allowing players to play the background sim - just a part of the game - nothing more.

Hello Commander Raist!

Don't worry, I'm not going to try to force you to like Powerplay :) . But I do have a few comments you might find interesting.

Firstly, and importantly, Elite will not "become" Powerplay. It kind of can't, really. It's an addition to the background simulation, nothing more or less. Now you don't have to believe me, but we are working on lots of other stuff as well, equally important, and covering different aspects of the game, including the "core" experience, if you will. Elite is still about the actions you take as the Commander of a space ship.

When I look at Powerplay, what I actually see, at its heart, is a part of the background simulation where AI is replaced with human Commanders. When you think about it in terms of its systems, that shouldn't be too much of an outlandish concept. And I hold that there's something pretty cool about this, for everyone, including Commanders who have nothing to do with Powerplay directly.

So yes, we want to work on the system to increase the fun factor, make the rewards for taking part more appropriate, but it's key to remember that this is only to keep interesting shifts in the backdrop for everyone.

I can understand the fear that Powerplay is all there is, simply because it's the most visible thing at the moment. That's because it's live, and because we feel it could benefit from changes (and this is why we're talking, right file:///C:\Users\Woolman\AppData\Local\Temp\msohtmlclip1\01\clip_image002.gif).

There's other stuff coming, and I reckon, in time, people are going to realise that Powerplay is just another facet, another way to play the game, but certainly not the only way, and certainly not the "best" way.

So, I could be wrong, but I think an amount of the flak that the system is getting is down to this mismatch in perception of how important Powerplay is. The truth is, as long as Powerplay's interesting enough for *some* folk, it's working. But that shouldn't mean we don't try to maximize the number of folk who like it, surely?

In conclusion, for those folk who dislike Powerplay: that's fine, but there's no need to dislike it purely on the grounds that it is Elite. It's not. It's a bit of Elite, like trading, minor factions, the crime system etc.

We have an ongoing dev cycle for the game, for which I'm eternally grateful to the powers that be for, because it means we get to carry on making things better and better in this game I love. And part of that cycle is this bit, where we get to collect feedback from the folk who play the game, which, traumatic though it can be - I also love! :)

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=169489&p=2592790&viewfull=1#post2592790


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It's easy;

There is no Open,
There is no Groups,
There is no Solo.

There are too many players upon us,
There are too few players upon us.

We are alone among many,
There is only self.


Dr. Moreau: What is the law?

Sayer of the Law: Not to eat meat, that is the law. Are we not men?

Beasts (in unison): Are we not men?

Dr. Moreau: What is the law?

Sayer of the Law: Not to go on all fours, that is the law. Are we not men?

Beasts (in unison): Are we not men?

Dr. Moreau: What is the law?

Sayer of the Law: Not to spill blood, that is the law. Are we not men?

Beasts (in unison): Are we not men?

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You are one movie buff!

You too, or you wouldn't be getting my references :D
 
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I just wish some would not view open as some sort of "special" place where "men are men" and anyone who doesn't play in their playground isn't and is weak or some other machoistic crap. My days of having to prove myself to meatheads is long gone.
 
I just wish some would not view open as some sort of "special" place where "men are men" and anyone who doesn't play in their playground isn't and is weak or some other machoistic crap. My days of having to prove myself to meatheads is long gone.

What are you a man or a mouse???? :)

(Sorry couldn't help it)...
 
I just wish some would not view open as some sort of "special" place where "men are men" and anyone who doesn't play in their playground isn't and is weak or some other machoistic crap. My days of having to prove myself to meatheads is long gone.

That is part of the fun of it.

"Yu is target and I iz gonna pew-pew u coz I can!"

"Why - I've done nothing to you and I'm not a reasonable target - I have no bounty, am not aligned with a power, carry no cargo, and don't even have any weapons."

"I IZ pew-pew u coz u suckzoorz an haz no skillz! F34R my pew-pew n00b! U suxxors lame and cry coz u haz NO SKLLZ!!"

<employs skills>

<enjoys silence>
 
What are you a man or a mouse???? :)

(Sorry couldn't help it)...


AM a mouse hear me Squeak:p

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That is part of the fun of it.

"Yu is target and I iz gonna pew-pew u coz I can!"

"Why - I've done nothing to you and I'm not a reasonable target - I have no bounty, am not aligned with a power, carry no cargo, and don't even have any weapons."

"I IZ pew-pew u coz u suckzoorz an haz no skillz! F34R my pew-pew n00b! U suxxors lame and cry coz u haz NO SKLLZ!!"

<employs skills>

<enjoys silence>


you forgot the

"Hey Why you no play here so I can pew pew youz? You cheat"
 
I just wish some would not view open as some sort of "special" place where "men are men" and anyone who doesn't play in their playground isn't and is weak or some other machoistic crap. My days of having to prove myself to meatheads is long gone.

A place where the men are real men, and the women are also real men! So... open is Thailand?
 
"Hey Why you no play here so I can pew pew youz? You cheat"

Those are my absolute favourite :D

"U iznt interdicted and died dead so uz ch33ts!"

"Indeed - you interdicted something, but it wasn't me!"

"U ch33tz an ch33tz an ch33tz yu <redacted> unsllzkzd l4mer! Wh3n me an my Cru find u agen we iz gona pwnz u!"

<posts last screenshot, complete with login time - sits back and enjoys a beer and endless lulz>
 
That is part of the fun of it.

"Yu is target and I iz gonna pew-pew u coz I can!"

"Why - I've done nothing to you and I'm not a reasonable target - I have no bounty, am not aligned with a power, carry no cargo, and don't even have any weapons."

"I IZ pew-pew u coz u suckzoorz an haz no skillz! F34R my pew-pew n00b! U suxxors lame and cry coz u haz NO SKLLZ!!"

<employs skills>

<enjoys silence>

I know people over the age of 7 type like that, sad really isnt it. ED has a age 7 rating in the UK. If people are talking over comms like that maybe it should have a IQ rating too lol :)
 
I just wish some would not view open as some sort of "special" place where "men are men" and anyone who doesn't play in their playground isn't and is weak or some other machoistic crap. My days of having to prove myself to meatheads is long gone.

I like the sandpit analogy. They remind me of the type of children whose idea of play is to run round the sandpit kicking sandcastles and biting the other kids, then they wonder why the other children stop playing with them.
 
I like the sandpit analogy. They remind me of the type of children whose idea of play is to run round the sandpit kicking sandcastles and biting the other kids, then they wonder why the other children stop playing with them.


PVP is good and fun, but they have to get the bullies out of the playground.
 
I just wish some would not view open as some sort of "special" place where "men are men" and anyone who doesn't play in their playground isn't and is weak or some other machoistic crap. My days of having to prove myself to meatheads is long gone.
But Mouse, these people already have so little else in life to boast about.
 
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