Modes The Solo vs Open vs Groups Thread - Part the Second [Now With Added Platforms].

[nedeaalex]

Less people? Ah I got dis!

Stop askin for faces to shoot, be makin som friends an be nice to mons - be makin Open pleasant an nice.

Wi want bodies in Open? Be nicer to bodies wi meet!

But wait, som mons not wantin Open to be pleasant an nice? Be makin it bash place - fightin place? Ok!

Then... yuh get dem lookin to bash. Not much else.

It not science. Be truth

I never even killed one CMDR . The only few CMDR i saw i talked to them nicely and maybe even winged(after i realized i get less money i stopped doing that).

 

[SteveLaw]

Yes it will xD. Don't you understand everyone grinds in Solo for PP but they actually want to play Open? The min-maxers go grind in Solo and their Power wins. If they had to make a choice, they would choose Open for sure because they would not like to just Grind for nothing in Solo.

I'm not a min-maxer. I don't grind. I play Solo (and Group). Who is misunderstanding? If I had to choose one I'd choose Group. If I had to play Open I wouldn't play again. You are assuming there are significant numbers of players like you describe. I think you would be disappointed.

 

[Scudmungus]

I read it. Says MMO.

First page. Main site:

"Experience unpredictable encounters with players from around the world in Elite: Dangerous’ vast massively multiplayer space. Fly alone or with friends in a connected galaxy where every pilot you face could become a trusted ally or your deadliest enemy."

Dis be the choice. Want to be makin Open more attractive to mons not lookin to bash, not lookin to rob an fight? Got to be nicer!

Edit: Truth bein dat Open not so bad. But myth makin it seem like de devil. Got to fight de stories. Dem bein told an dem doin de tellin. Until den, Open not attractice to many many mons, unless dey feel bold tanks to better guns an ships. Dis be truth.

 

[nedeaalex]

While I'm one of those who only plays solo and wouldn't really be affected, this is about a very simple Idea I will always suppoort: Customers get what they payed for.

There are many people who want to switch, who bought the Game because of this, taking it away from them after they bought the game would be a really *peep* move. How would you like it if FD would remove something you like? Bing bang bum open is gone, does not sound great, right?

Wouldn't affect me at all since Open right now is an empty desert anyway. Nobody is in there so why bother keep it up ?

 

[Mohrgan]

You see? It doesn't bother you at all if they are separated. So i ask you now, why are all these people here rejecting with all their might my sugestions? What does that affect them ? They still play in Solo anyway why do they give even a squat ?

Because they don't want their contributions diminished or segregated. Because people like choice, not restriction. I still would like a direct answer as to why one set of gamer ethics should trump another? You knew what you were getting into when you bought the game. You had a choice to make, and you chose to enter the system you see. It's a fundamental change, one debated and answered repeatedly. I haven't seen a strong enough argument to support that kind of change.

 

[Tarman]

Never ever I have logged a minute into solo or group play. In my humble opinion it is cheating, No matter what ppl say.

Your humble opinion is overriden by a major game mode selection, sorry. What FD says about it is what matters, not us.

 

[Snarfbuckle]

You play in Open if you want to play with players, that's the point of playing Open and it doesn't need another one.

And that part needs improvement.

The ability to create a group and:

-Name the group (Only has creating commander name now)
-Assign roles and responsibilities in the group (Only group creator can handle invites now)
-WINGS system working well in regards to instancing

Right now it's a single player game with a poor peer-to-peer semi-multiplayer bolted on as a DRM considering what they "promised" during kickstarter.

They want it to have good multiplayer - then add the needed mechanics to make it so.

 

[nedeaalex]

First page. Main site:



Dis be the choice. Want to be makin Open more attractive to mons not lookin to bash, not lookin to rob an fight? Got to be nicer!

Edit: Truth bein dat Open not so bad. But myth makin it seem like de devil. Got to fight de stories. Dem bein told an dem doin de tellin. Until den, Open not attractice to many many mons, unless dey feel bold tanks to better guns and ships. Dis be truth.

Experience unpredictable encounters with players from around the world in Elite: Dangerous’ vast massively multiplayer space.
Are you sure we are playing the same game here? Cuz i never experience anything with other players from around the world.

 

[Bomba Luigi]

Wouldn't affect me at all since Open right now is an empty desert anyway. Nobody is in there so why bother keep it up ?

Now your getting full on Drama Queen, good to see you have no actual argument. Guess I won

 

[Scudmungus]

Experience unpredictable encounters with players from around the world in Elite: Dangerous’ vast massively multiplayer space.
Are you sure we are playing the same game here? Cuz i never experience anything with other players from around the world.

Aye. You playin PP right? Go shout out on Power tred 'I comin an yuh cant stop me HA!'.

Den tings gettin interestin!

 

[SteveLaw]

Wouldn't affect me at all since Open right now is an empty desert anyway. Nobody is in there so why bother keep it up ?

Nobody is in Open? Guess FD might as well remove that option then. That'll save a lot of heart-ache.

 

[Mohrgan]

The point is that even if you want to play in Open like I do you're actively discouraged from doing so.
E.g.
I fly to a RES site in open, there's a few CMDRs already there hunting. I could fly from RES to RES looking for an empty one and hope no one else turns up or I could just deal with crappy profits from having kills stolen or I could wing up and deal with the reduced profits and reduced difficulty (it's already super easy) or I could switch to Solo and not have to worry about it.

You see? You chose reward over experience. Why should others have to change, because of the way you make decisions?

 

[Jigster]

I think more Solo players would move to Open if they could have NPC wing men.

 

[nedeaalex]

I like how this argument goes btw. We come with thought suggestions and we really try hard to make you understand what we want. And then Solo playes "NO! I pay 30dollers i play 30dollers, i ignore your suggestion completely and take 2 words out of the context to express my hate for PvP". Can we please make another thread where people express their hate for PvP and we can have nice talks here?

 

[SteveLaw]

I like how this argument goes btw. We come with thought suggestions and we really try hard to make you understand what we want. And then Solo playes "NO! I pay 30dollers i play 30dollers, i ignore your suggestion completely and take 2 words out of the context to express my hate for PvP". Can we please make another thread where people express their hate for PvP and we can have nice talks here?

We understand what you want and why you want it but we are pointing out why that doesn't fit with this game. Disagreement does not imply lack of understanding. I could probably make your arguments better than you by now, I just disagree with them. I don't see anyone being rude or impolite to you.

 

[[VR] Mad Mike]

Yes it will xD. Don't you understand everyone grinds in Solo for PP but they actually want to play Open? The min-maxers go grind in Solo and their Power wins. If they had to make a choice, they would choose Open for sure because they would not like to just Grind for nothing in Solo.

are you serious? if so you are wrong! (I could not care less about PP)

or are you trying to be sarcastic? (in which case it went over me!)

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I read it. Says MMO. I watched trailers. They are ALL about PVP and multiplayer. Welp not so much apparently now that i own it

I have seen many of the trailers. I have never noticed them specifically pointing to the fact that the ships being shot are players OR AI. To me they could be either. Maybe I missed it.

 

[nedeaalex]

We understand what you want and why you want it but we are pointing out why that doesn't fit with this game. Disagreement does not imply lack of understanding. I could probably make your arguments better than you by now, I just disagree with them.

As you said, what does and does not fit in the game is for devs to decide. We are just sugesting and speculating here until you guys wake up and decide to strat saying the same old fashioned " i pay X amount and i want to play that X amount" Can weplease have some more thoughtful arguments? Im bored of that really

 

[SteveLaw]

As you said, what does and does not fit in the game is for devs to decide. We are just sugesting and speculating here until you guys wake up and decide to strat saying the same old fashioned " i pay X amount and i want to play that X amount" Can weplease have some more thoughtful arguments? Im bored of that really

The devs did decide, before they started coding, and have regularly repeated their view of keeping different modes with the same universe. The latest was David at E3 last week.

Likewise, by the way. Can we have some more thoughful arguments, we are bored with same old risk/reward, Solo can affect Open, it's an MMO, arguments.

 

[Cody]

Can weplease have some more thoughtful arguments? Im bored of that really

<chortles>

 

[Bomba Luigi]

I like how this argument goes btw. We come with thought suggestions and we really try hard to make you understand what we want. And then Solo playes "NO! I pay 30dollers i play 30dollers, i ignore your suggestion completely and take 2 words out of the context to express my hate for PvP". Can we please make another thread where people express their hate for PvP and we can have nice talks here?

Again, guess you didn't really listen: Its not about PvP. Its about the Idea that you suggest to take away something people have already payed for. It really shouldn't be hard to see why such Ideas don't get a lot of Love.