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Complete the poster's own censoring.
Complete the poster's own censoring.
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Modes The Solo vs Open vs Groups Thread - Part the Second [Now With Added Platforms].
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That someone is getting better while playing the Game does not mean one does play to get better. Its just a sideeffect.
And what does it matter that someone 100% can not kill you if he not cares to kill you?
What is the link between game progression and skill improvement ?
Getting better in this game, as far as my thousands of hours in Open, come down to those that I have come across:
1. Running in a Wing
2. Having 1 more health potion than the other guy
3. Find something in the game that gives them an 'edge', this never includes 'piloting skills'
4. If that fails often enough...well, let's just say...other options are available.
I have played with some stand up PvP players, repping for any number of player groups....however, most of the random players I have come across have 'improved themselves' with the above methods.
For PvP players I am happy that CQC is coming out Soon™...as it will give them a balanced place to go and 'grow their skills'. I just do not see the above as 'skillful'.
I enjoy PvP...honestly, I do. I just do not call what we have a good implementation...and have accepted that this is all we are going to get.
I also understand that this IS a design choice...as the game...and all it's contests are PvE based. I suggest everyone get on board that idea...it also is not changing.
My suggestion is honestly, learn to play the game we have. There is lots of meaningful PvP...you just have to accept how you achieve your goals.
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If you are unhappy with the food, you don't eat it...nor do you try to get the manufacturer to change the formulation.
Why try that here...particularly when it is exactly the same issue?
This echo's my own Elite gaming experience with the exception of going full pirate, which I never did. I still trade, still BH and still do everything in open, I just pick wisely where in open that is. I used to joke with Tigga on his twitch that only greedy traders get pirated in open, those that are on rare routes running unsheilded get what they deserve to be honest. No matter where you are though you will at some point bump into a Majinvash or a Cmdr X that wants your stuff but that's Elite.
I use attempts on my Elite life as a means to do something different, so i'll go and grab the FDL or the python and go looking for them and its actually harder to find them than you think.
Um Don't people try to do that exact same thing? And sometimes the manufacturer actually listens.
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In this case, they won't. Just like adding meat to a meatless product will not occur.
In this case there's already meat in it. It's more like asking a company that makes spaghetti and meatball to just focus on meatballs. Not unreasonable imo since the spaghetti is subpar and the meatballs are good but under proportioned.
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Just wanted to say that I still like to play in Solo and Open Mode and I really enjoy being able to switch between the modes. I think it's a really cool feature of the game.
so if i am not improving my combat skills then i am an idiot and playing the game wrongly.
not a question, a statement.
if i am enjoying the game without fighting then it is right and proper to kill me over and over to teach me to enjoy it my part in these "player interactions".
if my way of considering that i am doing better is by how many combat encounters i can escape from without being destroyed then i am playing the game wrongly, and a coward to boot.
if the way i want to play the game is to run around and min/max profit margins trading, then it is fitting and proper that i am considered prey as the gutless wimp/sheep/soft target that i am.
and these are how i play in solo or group or open.
allot of what the "i am killing all you cowardly wimps for fun and i don't understand why you say you don't enjoy it" group says about players like me are insulting and demeaning.
yet if i were to make insulting or demeaning comments about the "i am killing all you cowardly wimps for fun and i don't understand why you say you don't enjoy it", i would get a warning and my post deleted and to talk about the warning or deletion would be a forum violation, so i wouldn't.
so it seems that the "i am killing all you cowardly wimps for fun and i don't understand why you say you don't enjoy it" are getting allot of slack to allow them to say what they want to say.
i could guess that the reason for that is that it is so obvious that they're not intelligent enough to understand anything other than violence as fun and they need consideration for their lack of ability to communicate coherently without copious insults.
but i won't say that as it would be just me abusing the anonymity of the internet to insult these intellectually challenged people.
no offense intended.
not a question, a statement.
if i am enjoying the game without fighting then it is right and proper to kill me over and over to teach me to enjoy it my part in these "player interactions".
if my way of considering that i am doing better is by how many combat encounters i can escape from without being destroyed then i am playing the game wrongly, and a coward to boot.
if the way i want to play the game is to run around and min/max profit margins trading, then it is fitting and proper that i am considered prey as the gutless wimp/sheep/soft target that i am.
and these are how i play in solo or group or open.
allot of what the "i am killing all you cowardly wimps for fun and i don't understand why you say you don't enjoy it" group says about players like me are insulting and demeaning.
yet if i were to make insulting or demeaning comments about the "i am killing all you cowardly wimps for fun and i don't understand why you say you don't enjoy it", i would get a warning and my post deleted and to talk about the warning or deletion would be a forum violation, so i wouldn't.
so it seems that the "i am killing all you cowardly wimps for fun and i don't understand why you say you don't enjoy it" are getting allot of slack to allow them to say what they want to say.
i could guess that the reason for that is that it is so obvious that they're not intelligent enough to understand anything other than violence as fun and they need consideration for their lack of ability to communicate coherently without copious insults.
but i won't say that as it would be just me abusing the anonymity of the internet to insult these intellectually challenged people.
no offense intended.
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I choose and play games that require very little in the way "effort" or "work" - as I play games to relax and be sociable with real life friends.
After spending most of my working life dealing with the public, my down time is reserved for people I know and not for every moron / idiot and reason for birth control that wants to interrupt me.
This is the same reason I never played on any public Freelancer servers - I ran my own, with a password, that I only loaded up when I was playing with friends, then shut down again when we were done.
My time, is mine. Not yours.
I play for me, not you.
You pay me £30,000+ per annum, new purpose built gaming PC, an office to play in, travel expenses.
For 40 hours per week (20 days holiday a year + bank holidays). I'll be your content in Open.
Deal?
I was trying to explain that playing in Open mode requires a different understanding and set of skills than Solo.
I was not attempting to comment on the abilities of others, I'm not sure how I can make this anymore clear.
I was trying to state that the poster was playing the 'Open mode' the way it was intended, not playing 'Elite: Dangerous' the way it was intended
Again all I can do is apologize for any misunderstanding of my words, but this is a very complex topic to discuss in the medium of text where the subtle nuances of meaning are difficult to convey.
But that is not an apt description of what you purchased. You bought a meatless product, with a representation of meat in it. You do not like the meatless product....and are demanding they put meat into it. They have stated from the beginning of this product that this was the way they wanted it.
Sorry...but this is not going to occur.
But, you CAN keep tilting at your windmill....enjoy! Just know you are doing it because you are enjoying the process....not because you are going to bring about any change to the way the game is written or played!
The game does have meat(pvp), in it. I enjoy a fair amount of pvp in the game. It's not particularly balanced or plentiful, but it's certainly not absent. Now with CQC the devs are adding more meat, just the wrong kind imo.
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Robert Maynard
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CQC is still meat - what seems to have happened is that all the salads and sides have been removed from the table in that room.
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