The Star Citizen Thread v 4
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Several of those statements do apply still, it's on that old thread i posted, one of the last posts of CR on the forum. Now that we would start the game without a ship, and work for one, that's really something i never heard.
From the time i backed till now, to own the game was to own a ship.
Also curious now, not aware as well what happens if you loose your main ship, without insurance with this applying. Hm.
Read somewhere that you can borrow money from some kind of online in-banking and buy a starter ship. This is supposed to allow everyone that dooesn't have a citizenship (finished SQ42) to start in the PU
Er... or maybe was just a human mistake?
It's back online already
https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/86097/katamari-damashii-elite-dangerous/p1282
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No!?! It can't be, it has to be a conspiracy of some sort.
I'm sure the non-mention of reaching 100 million is just a delay because of how busy they are right now. Besides if (or when) they put out a "Thank you we just reached 100 Mil" video, it would be jumped on for focusing on the money, disgusting etc. etc.
But what do I know? I'm just some gullible White Knight, drinking Kool-Aid at the Church of Croberts.
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I'd love to know how much Chris Roberts is paying himself and his wife out of backer's money. I'm fairly ignorant in these matters so I have to assume that he has some say on the matter.
The video posted by Jinto featured some beautiful claptrap! The man cares only about keeping the servers running and the chance to keep on making the universe even better. How lovely!
Interesting stuff, to be sure.
The video posted by Jinto featured some beautiful claptrap! The man cares only about keeping the servers running and the chance to keep on making the universe even better. How lovely!
Interesting stuff, to be sure.
It didn't take long so I figured out all that (earlier 2013), the "born" of this police, the behavior of CIG and what that would lead and their plans. It's great that more people figured out part of that now... But as I expected/predicted... too late. Maybe if more supported me long ago, when I tried to cause a change when still was possible to make a change, things could be different today, the company could have become different. Now I think that its irreversible. Only if those people were kicked out, which won't happen. It's like ... you know... they were seduced for the Dark Side... there is no coming back
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Knowing very well who those people are and how they think, the trend of their decision and their focus, I can say today, with 99% of possibility to be the case, that they are taking longer to write this letter because they have to create "something" to motivate the continuity of the cash grabbing, since the 100 million mark was set long ago, and the community has decreasing the number of people really supporting that, and the trend, with this magic number of 100m achieved, and the lack of "big" releases for the next year (just small chunks been released to keep people busy here and there, but probably quickly consumed by the followers who usually spend more money, specially) is of a drop in the funding drive.
So, they are probably trying to figure out something, with a good speech, to encourage the continuity of the cash grabbing.
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Their marketing tactics and how they decided to "educate" the community to behave is very similar to some of the tactics explained in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VbKIfFyRXU
This interview also exemplify how they motivated people to act how they act... David Swofford/Eric, obviously following a marketing script, made sure to applaud the toxicity that people were spreading since then as amazing, praising how they quickly came to "rescue" CIG... Next thing I imagined that he would start to distribute medals of honor:
https://youtu.be/JebPZqhJvuk?t=1072
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Yeah it seems it changed from the original view, after read it was supposed to you to be forced to finished SQ42 first to access the MMO part of the game, then with a ship you earned from finishing it to do so. Of course now SQ42 is becoming it's own game, as the first idea was really not that well received.
The thread got locked for some hours, all returns conspiracy, uh oh.
The Church of CRoberts has free Kool-Aid?! Giveme
But yeah the media already did the National 100M Parade all over the Internet, so why would they care xD... But after the drop of alpha access/passes, some expect something tomorrow.
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Probably getting a concept sale ready.It is a little surprising that there hasn't been a 100m letter. Maybe they are planning something extra special to mark it and it's not quite ready perhaps
I would bet with the Dec 16 livestream going and they keep hinting they will show new tech stuff and other stuff on it, make a note about 100M now would just put everyone talking about money, it will have a much better impact tomorrow i assume, people talked about LTI for everybody on the 100M note, but seems kinda overkill.It is a little surprising that there hasn't been a 100m letter. Maybe they are planning something extra special to mark it and it's not quite ready perhaps
I wouldn't bet on it at all, when they do a concept it's revealed it's going to happen always before, even the Saber on Citizencon and Crucible on Anniversary, i think this year we got ~5 new ship sales, much less than past years.Probably getting a concept sale ready.
What they have, is long awaited popular ships like the Freelancer to make flyable.
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So true, it's even scary reading trough some of stuff that goes as the deepest of the dark sides to justify the most deluded views of a situation. Almost has no difference than what happens surrounding the Illuminatti, KKK, Alien Lizards and many other crazy stuff that we can only find on random Youtube videos comment sections.
Like that CR answer to The Escapist. That was indeed something that fits with what you are saying. It was scary to know that people gave 100 million dollars for that guy, after reading that pearl.
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Going on 100.3M already. All the drama, all the Star Citizen supposed to crash and burn by now... And it keeps going, beating its own records recently!
The 2.0 Update and the continuous success of the funding makes some people soooooooo angry. When i saw the update released, around the media reports the almost "damage control" of several people that are the biggest defenders of the Scam and Vaporware Claims, specially the one that had "internal sources" that 2.0 would need a miracle to make it before 2016. It's hilarious.
From the hands of how many individuals? Because it seems to me, from what I gathered/followed of how it grew, depending of the ship sale going on, in general the same people buying additional ships or even packages. I have no concrete evidence of that, but I figured out analysing/following the project and looking to their shared numbers, how it grew along the road and how it matches more with lack/decrease of popularity, instead a real grow. So, tell me. Because for your statement make sense, we shouldn't have less people buying these ships than before, or less people signing and pledging.
Maybe we have, and that would mean that you are wrong and a decrease in popularity, with people actually buying stuff, could be a very big one, exists and exists for a long time now. Unfortunately, CIG has something to hide and won't tell us. This is another plus to make you suspect more.
And I know. You have no answer for that, except to declare the key words: "conspiracy theory", because for such simple stuff, numbers that CIG have in their hands, they prefer to hide and make strong drama when people dare to ask for it, and this fact, is not suspicious... not at all
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Star citizen conspiracy posts :
[–]macharial420Space Marshal 25 points 17 hours ago How many 'news magazines' like Forbes own stock in EA and Blizzard? Just ignore them, the way I ignore them telling me to buy Apple stock.
[–]Tarkaroshe 1 point 3 hours ago*
Totally agree OP.
The article writer of their latest article gave me the urge to give him a /GibbsSlap
The entire click bait article was obviously written to goad people into responding to his misinformation and thinly veiled accusations. Which meant that the moment anyone challenges his claims, they (and all SC fans) are instantly made out to be the villains and the article writer says "See!".
The article tries its best to vilify even requests to confirm if a previous article writer was prepared to post a retraction should his predictions be found to be false.
Of course, it shouldn't be surprising very much. After all, another Forbes article writer previously appeared to side with the Escapist.
From :
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/3wur4g/so_you_like_to_click_the_baitsdo_you/
[–]macharial420Space Marshal 25 points 17 hours ago How many 'news magazines' like Forbes own stock in EA and Blizzard? Just ignore them, the way I ignore them telling me to buy Apple stock.
[–]Tarkaroshe 1 point 3 hours ago*
Totally agree OP.
The article writer of their latest article gave me the urge to give him a /GibbsSlap
The entire click bait article was obviously written to goad people into responding to his misinformation and thinly veiled accusations. Which meant that the moment anyone challenges his claims, they (and all SC fans) are instantly made out to be the villains and the article writer says "See!".
The article tries its best to vilify even requests to confirm if a previous article writer was prepared to post a retraction should his predictions be found to be false.
Of course, it shouldn't be surprising very much. After all, another Forbes article writer previously appeared to side with the Escapist.
From :
https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/3wur4g/so_you_like_to_click_the_baitsdo_you/
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And there we go again with conspiracy theories and speculation with absolutely no proof to them. #OpinionsNotFacts
I found amazing, there big media outlets that somehow are in some weird love relationship with the big publishers. We all know what's behind IGN.
Still IGN made some balanced articles on the SC 2.0 article that i wasn't expecting as their love for console games, however the comments it's a flame war of Console vs PC fanboys. Oh gawd
I don't comment on Forbes, because it's not really journalism there, it's mostly opinion blogs on many matters, hosted by Forbes.
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So true, it's even scary reading trough some of stuff that goes as the deepest of the dark sides to justify the most deluded views of a situation. Almost has no difference than what happens surrounding the Illuminatti, KKK, Alien Lizards and many other crazy stuff that we can only find on random Youtube videos comment sections.
So are you then one of the guys who believe that everything must be the true that comes out from the authority?Saying that someone has Deluded view or that is just an conspiracy theorist it's very effective weapon to dismiss that person opinion ,you know that right?
The same way, the ones who accuse a person of being a cultist or a whale/deluded fan it's a very effective weapon to dismiss that person opinion, you know that right?
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You can't generalize like that.
Plenty of large gaming websites cover a lot of crowfunded games without "publisher" bias.
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Fair enough just can't recall that anyone here call someone specifically by name and point that he is an whale or cultist like you guys did it on previous page?
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Yes. I don't know from where he takes such conclusions that people are offending him. In my country there is an expression for this "wearing the mask". In fact, I admire people like Max and others with similar eager to defend their cause (I just really dislike those who go beyond the limits and start to accuse people of terrible things, like some did with me, and I dislike when Max appeal to such things too, pretending that is not him, but other people saying... but anyway...). I admire because I am/was a game developer and have people like them doing the same for my games and I obviously appreciated... but different from what CIG does, I helped them. I mean... I produced good results in the way and time that i promised to produce, good games and follow through my words and promises and was honest, even if that meant less money in my pockets (I prefer customer trust than quick/easy money results, to disguise/to pretend, because in the long term, that is what matters for a long term survival in this industry - watch Braben's attitude and you will understand).
Instead, CIG lives to screw the "job" of these guys. Would help a lot if they just changed some people from their roles and I can name them to be very objective; Chris Roberts, Sandi Gardiner and Ben Lesnick. Not because I am a "harasser" as these people like to sensationalize, or that I am "attacking them personally", but because I am experienced enough to see where exactly is the problem with the attitude of a company and how to fix it, and sometimes, that means moving people from roles when they demonstrate lack of capacity for the job.
That been said, with such changes, greater are the chances that the "work" of people like Max would be a lot easier and more effective too, so as the reputation of the company and the community itself. With them, the situation will be always like this, almost impossible and those people having no way, but resort to hate attitudes, silly cultist behavior (not putting Max here, but others) that reflects badly in themselves, due the lack of the arguments, because its simply impossible to defend some attitudes/decisions/approaches of CIG. If they were mature, they would know that the best would be the company to screw themselves a little, not defend them in such cases. But we know that in practice it won't happen, because some people is like a soldier, does not think macro, just do "the job" until their superior says "stop".
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