The Star Citizen Thread v5

[SlickReed]

What?

http://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/50085/how-big-is-the-known-star-trek-universe

If by single solar system you mean huge part of a galaxy then yes - it took part in a single solar system.

If you break up star trek by each individual version it does not represent an entire galaxy even if is the back drop to the story.

According to Captain Picard, in 2373 the Federation spans 12,000 ly. most episodes were spent in one system at a time mostly repeating systems within fed space. DS9 is a different story.

A review of this information identifies some problems. The listed stars include sites of exploration by the crew of the Enterprise and Enterprise-D, implying that they are on the frontiers of Federation space. However, all but two of the stars are within 420 ly of Earth, and half are within 80 ly of Earth. This is a tiny fraction of the volume of Federation space implied by Captain Picard's statement in ST: Generations that the Federation spans 12,000 ly.

http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/startrek/stgeogr.html

 

[Stormprooter]

Perhaps he was thinking of Firefly, not Star Trek.

Possibly.
Spock would say: "Highly Illogical Citizen"
Bones would say: "Are you out of your god damned Citizen mind?"

What would Kirk say I wonder? . . . . .

 

[Dooguk]

Possibly.
Spock would say: "Highly Illogical Citizen"
Bones would say: "Are you out of your god damned Citizen mind?"

What would Kirk say I wonder? . . . . .

"It's a game Bones, but not as we know one"

 

[Monk]

You guys, I'm running out of popcorn. LOL

 

[Tippis]

Possibly.
Spock would say: "Highly Illogical Citizen"
Bones would say: "Are you out of your god damned Citizen mind?"

What would Kirk say I wonder? . . . . .

“I don't say galaxy; you say galaxy. I say solar system.”

 

[Asp Explorer]

You guys, I'm running out of popcorn. LOL

Here mate, have some of mine, and a fresh lulzbucket

 

[ianw]

If you break up star trek by each individual version it does not represent an entire galaxy even if is the back drop to the story.

According to Captain Picard, in 2373 the Federation spans 12,000 ly. most episodes were spent in one system at a time mostly repeating systems within fed space. DS9 is a different story.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galactic_quadrant_(Star_Trek)

Not sure how you make that a single solar system - and if you read my quote it didn't say an entire galaxy.

So maybe you can show me how you make it a single solar system?

 

[SlickReed]

Based on each version of Star Trek.

A review of this information indentifies some problems. The listed stars include sites of exploration by the crew of the Enterprise and Enterprise-D, implying that they are on the frontiers of Federation space. However, all but two of the stars are within 420 ly of Earth, and half are within 80 ly of Earth. This is a tiny fraction of the volume of Federation space implied by Captain Picard's statement in ST: Generations that the Federation spans 12,000 ly.

http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/startrek/stgeogr.html

 

[VidarSnipes]

Based on each version of Star Trek.

A review of this information indentifies some problems. The listed stars include sites of exploration by the crew of the Enterprise and Enterprise-D, implying that they are on the frontiers of Federation space. However, all but two of the stars are within 420 ly of Earth, and half are within 80 ly of Earth. This is a tiny fraction of the volume of Federation space implied by Captain Picard's statement in ST: Generations that the Federation spans 12,000 ly.

http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/startrek/stgeogr.html

So still more than one solar system.

 

[Barking_Mad]

Personally I'd count eight, if I exclude Denton. Li Yong-Rui seems Asian'ish. 40% of them I would identify P) as female. To me that suggests that the powers-that-be are more 'fairly' represented in ED than in real-life. Beyond that I am not sure if ED should strive to make some kind of political point, or be a front-runner in this or that debate. ED is ED, it would make absolutely zero sense to put a dark-skinned person there as an Imperial figure of power, as the lore just doesnt back it up. ED is filled with all kinds of distgusting things: slavery, corruption, nepotism, rampant weapon and drugs trafficking, you name it. I fail to see how having a happy stock-photo powerplay lineup would make things 'better'. It'd be just weird IMHO.

It is, but don't swear on the forum!

 

[Zetta]

Star Marine article on IGN with the usual Roberts waffle http://uk.ign.com/articles/2016/12/...r-marine-gets-new-trailer-details-a-ign-first

CIG are apparently like Blizzard now... but better.

 

[Jezzah]

that is a great point. CIG has explained many times that they are not interested in pushing a game out and adding quality bits latter. If you look at what they plan to achieve and what is expressed by the devs in all the SC developer videos, all of these things have to be in place in order to move forward. items 2.0 is the beginning of the game mechanics process but the details have to be in there first.

That is the single most ridiculous explanation for them working on shiny fluff that I've seen on this forum. I'm sure you are right that this is what the developers think is the right thing to do...I'm not questioning your reporting of it.

Add quality bits later? What on earth difference does adding a bit of static fluff for the shiny mean if you add it now or in 4 years time??? They've said many times that they will apparently be working on this as a 10 year project (don't believe that myself) so why are they behaving and acting so OCD about stupid nothing details when so much more is utterly lacking in the game in virtually every way.

As for stuff fitting in stuff...they could start by making sure the player avatar can fit in the ship properly.

 

[Stormprooter]

Star Marine article on IGN with the usual Roberts waffle http://uk.ign.com/articles/2016/12/...r-marine-gets-new-trailer-details-a-ign-first

CIG are apparently like Blizzard now... but better.

Thanks for sharting Zetta.

From the article:

If you're firing your face is doing different things than if you're getting shot at.

Frikkin wow! Who cares? Do the hit markers work properly? Are there hit markers? You know, basic FPS gameplay things....

In the future you'll be limping, or, if your right arm is ruined, you won't be able to hold a weapon in it.

I'd rather die & respawn thankyouverymuch, what the....

 

[Osmanthus]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galactic_quadrant_(Star_Trek)

Not sure how you make that a single solar system - and if you read my quote it didn't say an entire galaxy.

So maybe you can show me how you make it a single solar system?

 

[SlickReed]

As for stuff fitting in stuff...they could start by making sure the player avatar can fit in the ship properly.

Character models got a huge pass in 2.6 to get them in line with Star Marine.

 

[Tippis]

Star Marine article on IGN with the usual Roberts waffle http://uk.ign.com/articles/2016/12/...r-marine-gets-new-trailer-details-a-ign-first

CIG are apparently like Blizzard now... but better.

I bet Blizzard does something really silly, like lay down the foundation first and then try to hone that before building on top of it, as opposed to starting with the honing and then trying to cobble together some kind of game of that, like old man Chris does.

 

[Asp Explorer]

I'm continually amazed at Genuine Roberts and his ability to completely misunderstand pressure.

 

[SlickReed]

So still more than one solar system.

30 total expanding all versions. I should have stated it by seasons. But no where near a galaxy

 

[ianw]

Based on each version of Star Trek.

A review of this information indentifies some problems. The listed stars include sites of exploration by the crew of the Enterprise and Enterprise-D, implying that they are on the frontiers of Federation space. However, all but two of the stars are within 420 ly of Earth, and half are within 80 ly of Earth. This is a tiny fraction of the volume of Federation space implied by Captain Picard's statement in ST: Generations that the Federation spans 12,000 ly.

http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/startrek/stgeogr.html

So by Picard's estimation Fed space spans 12000 ly - and you're equating that to the size of a solar system - the nearest example of which appears to be ours and appears to be just over 1 ly in diameter?

http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/ab...-is-the-size-of-the-solar-system-intermediate

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/827/621/fd6.gif

It's amusing isn't it - how deep will the hole go before the digging ceases?

 

[Ian Skippy]

I am assuming you never seen Star Trek because you would know that the series is based on a ship traveling a single solar system. Right?

Lol, you're defending CIG having one tiny bit of one system by claiming a grand sci-fi universe was only one system too? Apart from it being obviously not true, whats next? You defending all the bugs by saying David Attenborough talked about bugs with great success? Its great that CIG never releases anything of value because Jesus hasnt returned either?

The desperation here is so... depressing.