The Star Citizen Thread v5
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Source:https://www.reddit.com/r/DerekSmart/comments/6drzrn/dks_on_fdev_its_amazing_and_will_be_like_they/di54rnd/crazy-namek said:
Is the most hilarious thing to say in a reddit with its whole purpose is to stalk Derek Smart and how he rants on SC.
Its amazing how they try to look down on someone while being themself at the bottom of the barrel...
On that note, let's make some predictions. Let's hope the biggest Kickstarter failure project of all time doesn't bring down Kickstarter with it when it fails.
I reckon, things will start to fall apart pretty rapidly in a year or two. When the 3.0 Jesus patch never materialises, and reality kicks in. Why no process CIG after another year of development? Oh the usual - volumetric fog took longer to implement that originally planned! [money] Please shut up and take my money!!! [money]
So wait until July 2018 for the fireworks. That's my prediction. Could be wrong, but let's revisit in about a years time and see
I'd say the chances of a SC failure bringing Kickstarter down are almost zero, because they only raised $2,134,374 there. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cig/star-citizen Almost all of the funding has come from ship pre-sales, and Kickstarter has no involvement in that at all.
My lulzbucket settles down for it's sunday feast
I cannot wait to meet some of these people in the 'Verse!!
I cannot wait to meet some of these people in the 'Verse!!
Have I linked the wrong page then? It is all rather confusing, as the page I linked gives the $2 million figure, and then talks about meeting additional goals without actually providing a final total.
About $4m of that was parallel crowdfunding from other sources. A note about the parallel funding is on the KS page.
But... even if it were a full $6m on Kickstarter I'm sure it wouldn't bring down either KS or the concept of crowdfunding.
1) $2m out of $3billion total KS funding isn't very big in proportion. $150m out of all crowdfunding everywhere is likely bigger, but still not *that* big.
2) SC is only high profile in the gaming industry (and not that high a profile there - the big publishers can knock it off the headlines on most sites). So I doubt its failure would make a bigger long-term splash than its crowdfunding success.
3) There aren't that many people losing serious money if it fails. Too many, obviously - in cases of lost money, one is too many. However, the big financial scams have all affected far more people and not permanently damaged the industry. At most I think there might be more regulation on crowdfunding (not necessarily a bad thing), but it creates jobs and economic activity so I don't think lawmakers anywhere would want to shut it down.
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Heh, I found all the 3 sides are guilty of the same thing one way or another.
so don't even chuckle on the inside.Heh, I found all the 3 sides are guilty of the same thing one way or another.
And which "sides" would those be?
Kickstarted games sorted by amount raised https://www.kickstarter.com/discover/advanced?category_id=35&sort=most_funded&seed=2490169&page=1
Ask on the star citizen reddit and prepare for the downvotes and flaming. They tend to get a bit touchy about this these days.
Also you will get comments like:
"It will be ready when its ready"
"Its beta!"
"Its alpha!"
"CIG can take as long as they want in order to make the game perfect"
"Most AAA games take at least 5... 10... 15 years to make!"
"Go away troll"
"You're a Derek Smart alt. Go away Derek"
He was right, but he probably never thought it would actually happen to his project at that time.
You only have to look around, new games coming out all the time, many of them with features like in SC. Star Marine, touted as one of the big features, is so far behind the rest of the FPS market its not even funny. They will use those same mechanics in the game (the same way that Arena commander brought the flight model to the main game - which is (subjective opinion) pants.
Nothing new, nothing innovative, and yet they keep touting how what they are doing is new and innovative like nothing else done before.... and yet, its all been done before, except perhaps the number of refactoring of everything... not heard of any other project where things get refactored so much.
As you say, every game has its detractors, but most games given time either completely fail or take off well enough to push the majority of detractors away or convert them. SC.... well, just keeps on going...
Funny I always considered D.Smart as a opportunistic poop stirrer...
Now I'm finding myself enjoying his blog posts...
,,,what the hell happened?
Make sure to start out with humble praise and a lengthy explanation how Star Citizen has shown you the light and how all your thinking every hour of every day resolves around it and the fantastic game it already provides. Statements how you despise any of the known nay-sayers definitely a plus. End your question with an equal size block of text confirming your beliefs and utter devotion. Lots of upvotes garantueed. Just dont question ANY of the replies else you ll be shouted down and accused to be a smartie or "him" himself.
Here's the thing that you seem to forget. Star Citizen fans and Chris Roberts bad mouthed the entire game industry at the begin and along this crowdfunding campaign. They all, basically, generalized the entire industry and the publisher business, as bad, evil and just "one more Call of Duty".
That was totally unfair and disrespectful with many many developers, even with the Call of Duty ones, which actually, are much better than any that Roberts produced so far, even the worst game of such franchise. Guess what, with all the inovation, new franchises, rebooted franchises, etc. that came from the hands of publishers and many developers to PC and consoles... all good to great material.
Still, you all compared that as pure garbage and even went beyond to claim that they just care with money and what they produce are not worthy of the money that you spend, because they rush their games to sell DCL's , etc.
Ok! We all agreed that the industry was not perfet and some greedy existed. STILL, what was the solution for that?
Roberts just brought speech and made something that never the worst of the publisher did. Directly false advertising their products at the same time that selling it for THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS, and not just the product as a whole, but individual in-game assets of such non-existent product. And then, after fully funded and according with their own speech, with no SERIOUS reason to continue, they continued... and for that, promised things without having any care with the feasibility, with promises made to consumers, suddenly throwing all that to the window and obligating people to swallow all that, because some drunk people were all ok to continue to be drunk (by the Roberts promises and eternal theorycrafting and no funny/bad shows).
And THEN, 2014, the first estimated passed, 2015/16/17 and even 18 already passed (As we already know looking to the features promised until there, still not accomplishing even in the best case scenario with the game-as-promised... for 2014). Roberts ALWAYS promised that ANY of its module releases ALL delayed, would "worth the wait", and that people should have patience because would be worthy... they were all empty promises.. they were all rushed, bugged, unfinished, incomplete and over-hyped (At a level that is much superior to any other false advertiser of the history of the game industry, making people to spend thousands and thousands of dollars between those waits, hyped by their hype-machine).
So, Roberts was arrogant from the start. Provoked, challenged, and said that was better than anyone else, again, directly and indirectly. And he was not even average in results. He delivered true GARBAGE! A non-game. A tech demo. With 0.5% of the features promised and these 0.5% are even far to be considered finished. The rest of 99.5% of features promised and that should be a guarantee when people gave them 6 million dollars has been vaporware, since the end of 2014, when was promised the "FINISHED" product, or worst case scenario end of 2015.
And then, you guys come now and play the VICTIM CARD????
! You were the haters of the game industry from the start. Were ashamed by your lack of results, and now, want a free pass and acceptance? Any game developer who make 1% of bad things that Roberts did and have been doing, were destroyed by press and public criticism. Even worst when in some point they were arrogant. And Roberts broke the Guinness Book of Records of arrogance and disrespect to the entire industry!
He deserves to be destroyed by critics, yes. If there is one developer who deserves that, that is Roberts. If there is one arrogant community that deserve that, its yours.
But nobody hates your project, regardless all the arrogance demonstrated. We all wanted that to be true. The problem that it's not. And what people involved wants or make "campaigns", is to inform other people that giving money to this project is a waste and probably the person will end disappointed (or lying to itself and ashaming itself when trying to defend something that cannot be defended). And that giving more money to the SC cause only makes the things worst for the cause itself. And that has a serious negative impact to the game industry that probably will be felt for years, while Roberts and Sandi laugh in their trips to Monaco, with their pockets with more money that they could dream to have, when started all this show.
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Right - SC will be dead in 90 days. But a different 90 days - not the 90 days you mentioned 2 years ago. Or last Summer.
Because #sources.
You have to admit Derek is no more inaccurate than Chris Roberts when it comes to Star Citizen information, which is quite an achievement considering CR is allegedly making the movie/game.
Derek also isn't diving into a Scrooge McDuck money pit based entirely on those inaccuracies.
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LOL score!!!
Harping about the 90 day prediction when Star Citizen is late THREE YEARS and counting because....reasons haha. Probably better to focus on different things I guess. Especially the wording is hilarious when Star Citizen tops it in every regard by magnitudes.....hoh boy, did you even consider how much this would backfire when you wrote it?
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