The Star Citizen Thread v5

hairychris · Sep 4, 2016

sleutelbos said:
[/FONT][/COLOR]Ouch. I thought they were going to go for a smooth progression of 'in a few months' delays, but 'the middle or end of 2017' sounds like they pretty much prepare the fanbase for a whole year again. So with SQ42 E1 end of 2017, that means SQ E3 will be done Q4 2018 at the soonest, and we wont see SC before 2019. If for the first time ever they actually stick to their launch dates.

This is actually the first time I sincerely think that 'next decade' may actually happen...

Not so much a problem for the fanbase, but if they're looking to late 2017 for SQ42 to compete against ME Andromeda & COD:IW (that will be entrenched by then - so maybe with DLC, pricedrops, etc)... It'll not end well. [where is it]

McGlashan · Sep 4, 2016

sleutelbos said:
Yeah, when you look at the state of first-person shooting and such in SC I doubt they can compete with anything thats on the market now, never mind end of 2017...

hairychris said:
Not so much a problem for the fanbase, but if they're looking to late 2017 for SQ42 to compete against ME Andromeda & COD:IW (that will be entrenched by then - so maybe with DLC, pricedrops, etc)... It'll not end well.

End of next year means after the next Call of Duty.

Stigbob · Sep 4, 2016

Asp Explorer said:
You just described Star Citizen absolutely perfectly. It's all just props to create a mood - the mood to spend money on debris

You know they say laughter is the best medicine ?.

I can confirm it's not true for certain intestinal issues, man that hurt.

Tippis · Sep 4, 2016

hairychris said:
Not so much a problem for the fanbase, but if they're looking to late 2017 for SQ42 to compete against ME Andromeda & COD:IW (that will be entrenched by then - so maybe with DLC, pricedrops, etc)... It'll not end well. [where is it]

Well, hey. With a bit of luck, the two will have reached market saturation and most players have already finished them (at least the SP part, in the case of COD) by the time SQ42 comes out, giving it some niche role as a cheap and temporary low-effort filler between the mainstream releases.

hairychris · Sep 4, 2016

McGlashan said:
End of next year means after the next Call of Duty.

Yeah... plus with the whole multiplayer thing, folks will be more tempted to play something that their mates do, for teaming up etc.

And, if COD has a decent single player campaign (ME almost certainly will) ugh. Timing is bad.

specialsymbol · Sep 4, 2016

I think it has been shrunk to 1:20 for planets and 1:10 for distances. A little bit disappointing, if you ask me - but then also understandable.

Ian Skippy · Sep 4, 2016

hairychris said:
Not so much a problem for the fanbase, but if they're looking to late 2017 for SQ42 to compete against ME Andromeda & COD:IW (that will be entrenched by then - so maybe with DLC, pricedrops, etc)... It'll not end well. [where is it]

And most of the SC fanbase already paid for SQ42 when it was still a combi-deal.

VidarSnipes · Sep 4, 2016

specialsymbol said:
I think it has been shrunk to 1:20 for planets and 1:10 for distances. A little bit disappointing, if you ask me - but then also understandable.

Do you have any sources on that?

hairychris · Sep 4, 2016

sleutelbos said:
And most of the SC fanbase already paid for SQ42 when it was still a combi-deal.

That's the thing. CIG have already sold however-million-dollars worth of product already.

MarktJones · Sep 4, 2016

I post one slightly positive thing about SQ42 and they delay it by a year! I apologise fully to all backers.

McGlashan · Sep 4, 2016

hairychris said:
That's the thing. CIG have already sold however-million-dollars worth of product already.

On the bright side, they've probably made more money that way than they would have done going head-to-head with something like Mass Effect.

Voivod · Sep 4, 2016

CMDR_Orlando said:
Lucky us that those all those prop's keep getting made and are available for anyone with a Star Citizen package. Which means, no content behind a paywall.

Other than every single ship in the game for the next few years until SC releases.

CMDR_Orlando · Sep 4, 2016

Voivod said:
Other than every single ship in the game for the next few years until SC releases.

How so? You can rent every ship with REC, you can ask for someone to borrow you one, heck you can even steal them, ah and don't forget the Free Fly Weekends were you don't even need to pay for the game to play.

About the Size of the Star Citizen Universe, ofc it will be smaller, there's no point in having a huge universe with billions and billions of systems if you can't make them interesting and unique, even if you spice them up with fauna and different colour schemes people get bored of it really fast. Just look at what happened with No Man's Sky.

Asp Explorer · Sep 4, 2016

Voivod said:
Other than every single ship in the game for the next few years until SC releases.

Don't forget the fishtank

Ian Skippy · Sep 4, 2016

CMDR_Orlando said:
How so? You can rent every ship with REC, you can ask for someone to borrow you one, heck you can even steal them, ah and don't forget the Free Fly Weekends were you don't even need to pay for the game to play.

About the Size of the Star Citizen Universe, ofc it will be smaller, there's no point in having a huge universe with billions and billions of systems if you can't make them interesting and unique, even if you spice them up with fauna and different colour schemes people get bored of it really fast. Just look at what happened with No Man's Sky.

No, I am not talking about the number of systems, but the size of whats in them. SC systems are condensed: smaller planets closer together than in reality. How big a deal that is is up to anyone to decide. I see SC more as the Star Wars equivalent of space games, so its more important to have an interesting backdrop rather than a realistic one. But regardless, the criticism is correct: space is smaller in SC.

As for the ships, its not a strong criticism, I agree.

Zetta · Sep 4, 2016

CMDR_Orlando said:
About the Size of the Star Citizen Universe, ofc it will be smaller, there's no point in having a huge universe with billions and billions of systems if you can't make them interesting and unique, even if you spice them up with fauna and different colour schemes people get bored of it really fast. Just look at what happened with No Man's Sky.

Unless you're looking to replicate the Milky Way or something....

Jezzah · Sep 4, 2016

Wow never ever in wildest dreams saw that SQ42 would be pushed out to middle or end of next year. Let's be honest here the end of 2017 is much more likely at this point they'll not want to clash with the other similar releases. Plus there's loads of whaling to do in the mean time <rubs hands greedily>

Asp Explorer · Sep 4, 2016

Jezzah said:
Wow never ever in wildest dreams saw that SQ42 would be pushed out to middle or end of next year. Let's be honest here the end of 2017 is much more likely at this point they'll not want to clash with the other similar releases. Plus there's loads of whaling to do in the mean time <rubs hands greedily>

Not really. They'll have the assets and script finished by the end of 2017. Then they'll have more mocap to do in 2018. Then CR will notice some green pixels in the script, which will be refactored, and then everyone will have to come back in to re-re-re-mocap in 2020. Meanwhile ship sales and clothing specials every few weeks - they will introduce Pets and Hats 2.0, local physics grids will be fully enabled - at which point it will be realised that the render engine chokes on the physics grids, and Netcode* 42.0 isn't compatible with Pets and Hats 2.0 - so yet more refactoring crunch time joy for the poor developers.

* yes I know it's a junk term - but it feels appropriate here.

kilvenny · Sep 4, 2016

I am not surprised by the delay of SQ42 to be honest and I think it is a shrewd move. Now they can release after COD:IW and know what the competition has done.

Soliluna · Sep 4, 2016

CMDR_Orlando said:
Well I don't know if real life knife company's and virtual sci-fi gadgets connect in terms of "law" but in the Star Citizen Universe knifes are made by Ultiflex it seems, maybe they get sued in-the-verse [big grin]

https://cdna2.artstation.com/p/asse...arge/aaron-deleon-sc-knife-661.jpg?1465765961
Plenty of other here: http://starcitizen.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Weapon_Manufacturers

Lovely knife design but (and I'm no pro on knives) that grip isn't exactly ergonomic.