The Star Citizen Thread v5

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But if the reason you have disposable income is that you rarely spend unwisely then you'd be very unlikely to drop cash (disposable or otherwise) on some dudes delayed exaggerated under-performing generic tech demo.

Sure. That also makes Agony's, and anyone else's, comments touting COD, ED, ME, etc. as a SC killer as irrelevant. If you wouldn't buy SC in the first place, then any of those other games being better is irrelevant.
 
Sure. That also makes Agony's, and anyone else's, comments touting COD, ED, ME, etc. as a SC killer as irrelevant. If you wouldn't buy SC in the first place, then any of those other games being better is irrelevant.

Are you saying that someone either buys all games of a similar genre or none, and on those grounds one shouldn't compare them?
 
Still, it's a handy excuse for terrible performance that ol' CR has used since the Origin days. "You just don't understand pushing the limits of hardware!"
 
On the RSI forums it would be deleted and you'd be banned, on reddit it'd be karmic death. Hard to read and discuss the truth where it's never been allowed.

I can explain why the idea of the MVP isn't an issue. Because people like you hear it and immediately think "WOW Chris just admitted Star Citizen is going to be a gutted empty shell and everyone will be disappointed!" Meanwhile, people who have been paying attention to the development over the years think "that means what Chris has been saying all along; not all the stretch goals talked about will be in at launch day." See the difference? See, there's even evidence to support that we're still getting a rather robust feature set at launch, considering within the next few months we'll be landing on fully rendered planets and carrying out rover drive-bys.
 
I can explain why the idea of the MVP isn't an issue. Because people like you hear it and immediately think "WOW Chris just admitted Star Citizen is going to be a gutted empty shell and everyone will be disappointed!" Meanwhile, people who have been paying attention to the development over the years think "that means what Chris has been saying all along; not all the stretch goals talked about will be in at launch day." See the difference? See, there's even evidence to support that we're still getting a rather robust feature set at launch, considering within the next few months we'll be landing on fully rendered planets and carrying out rover drive-bys.

Wouldn't it make more sense, especially to the backers that don't fall into one or two highly convenient polarized camps, if open development involved merely EXPLAINING what the MVP consisted of? All these hundreds of hours of videos, why not spend five minutes in one of them telling the backers what CR considers the MVP?

Wouldn't that be SOMEWHAT helpful to more than a few backers who you don't immediately sneer about as "people like you," hmm?

Because leaving it fuzzy and open to interpretation is better for business, isn't it. Leave it as a matter of faith... then only the foul unbelievers, LEAVERS, and special snowflakes would POSSIBLY quibble. Whereas the pure and those that Walk With Chris, knows what he means. Innately. Completely. Because in His Presence his Grace allows us to understand game development.
 
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It isn't good or bad. It is what it is. The project was meant to push the limits of hardware from the beginning.

I updated my post.

However, if you plan to build a game that is so resource-hungry that you are (by your admission) deliberately forcing a huge amount of your potential customer-base out of the market?

That's suicidal.
 
Sure. That also makes Agony's, and anyone else's, comments touting COD, ED, ME, etc. as a SC killer as irrelevant. If you wouldn't buy SC in the first place, then any of those other games being better is irrelevant.

Not really - if they're "better" then why bother wasting any cash (disposable or otherwise) on SC - even if you can run it - if it's not as good?
 
I updated my post.

However, if you plan to build a game that is so resource-hungry that you are (by your admission) deliberately forcing a huge amount of your potential customer-base out of the market?

That's suicidal.

HAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!

Their crowd funding levels say otherwise! [wacko]
 
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Sure. That also makes Agony's, and anyone else's, comments touting COD, ED, ME, etc. as a SC killer as irrelevant. If you wouldn't buy SC in the first place, then any of those other games being better is irrelevant.

Indeed. I'd rather focus on the fact that this project is ridiculously delayed without a clear answer as to how it is all going to be finished.

I pledged in late 2014 b/c, due to marketing, I believed the game was going to be released, soon. Then it was to come in 2015...now I'm looking at 2016 and 2017.

I get that games get delayed and all, but CIG/RSI marketing, from the time I started paying attention, was all about the game coming soon...on the scale of months, not years. It is dishonest, incompetent, stupid...whatever.
 
Not really - if they're "better" then why bother wasting any cash (disposable or otherwise) on SC - even if you can run it - if it's not as good?

Are you kidding me?! What kind of logic is that? Playing a game that I perceive as 'better' has never stopped me from playing another game.

See Osman. This all or nothing mentality is not mine. It is that of regulars here. It's pathetic.
 
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Sure. That also makes Agony's, and anyone else's, comments touting COD, ED, ME, etc. as a SC killer as irrelevant. If you wouldn't buy SC in the first place, then any of those other games being better is irrelevant.

Why do you say that . Spending money on an established quality entertainment franchise is sensible. That's why I'll buy the next season of ED which could well be spacelegs and get all star citizen have claimed to offer and more without the terrible t-posing at 15 fps and the delays and refactoring.
 
HAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!

Their crowd funding levels say otherwise! [wacko]

Which just adds to the pressure to deliver something truly spectacular - which looks further and further way with each patch - so far.

Still - we can all agree that 3.0 will fix everything in one hit - right?
 
So.... you've only ever played what you thought was the best game? Never played any others? What a fabulous existence!

Well if I'm looking for a type of game and I play the "best" - I don't see any value in putting any time on another one that does more or less the same thing but worse.

That makes no sense to me - my game time is limited.
 
LOL :D

In my defence (and for the sake of understanding) I was actually trying to clarify Lysanders thoughts based on what he had posted with my questions.

In any case, I appreciate you taking the time to respond to my questions. :)

I noticed from your profile you've been here a while. As old as the hills!
 
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