You guys prefer mocking and delusion instead of Game Discussion, well I'm playing ball lol. All that hate, all that mockery, I made a simple AVATAR/SIG bet, no one is willing to stick to their words ? Rofl ($!"$! "!$!"$!% indeed).
The Star Citizen Thread v5
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You guys prefer mocking and delusion instead of Game Discussion, well I'm playing ball lol. All that hate, all that mockery, I made a simple AVATAR/SIG bet, no one is willing to stick to their words ? Rofl ($!"$! "!$!"$!% indeed).
To be fair, if the camera is directly attached to the head in first-person mode, you'd be better off being unconscious. Very few people would be able to cope with that for any length of time without getting VR sick. I can't take anyone seriously who thinks they can bodge VR support into an FPS game and expect it to be a pleasant experience. You can get away with it for the bits where you're piloting a ship, but for the FPS portions you really need to have designed your game with VR support in mind, and CIG clearly haven't done that. I don't understand why they don't just come out and say "this isn't the sort of game that makes for a good VR experience so we aren't going to waste money on it".
[Actually, I *do* understand why; it's the same reason SC is a mess of lovely-sounding but ultimately pointless features.]
It has *everything* to do with the game. It speaks to the professionalism of the company who are developing the game. It speaks to how you can expect to be treated if you should require support with the game. It speaks to how the company feels about the money that has been pledged by its backers to create the game. To this latter point, I have the impression of a company who are all about shiny things, all about image. When I started Kickstarting games, I was naive about how I thought that money should be spent. I thought that any company taking money to make a product would have a moral obligation to spend that money wisely, for the betterment of the product. There's a lot to be said about staff retention and wellbeing, and I have no problem with the company spending money on a coffee machine or a security system for the door. But I do take offence that they're spending *my* money on state-of-the-art espresso machines, bespoke furnishings, etc. when these things are completely unnecessary.
I've been following this thread for long enough to know that there are one or two people for who the moniker "hater" fits. Not very many of the people you are interacting with are on that list. The majority of us are backers of a space game, who pledged real, hard cash for a vision which has since been distorted and diluted to the point where it no longer resembles what we were sold. We come on here, because this is generally speaking a forum that encourages mature discussion. We can't go on the RSI forums to talk about the game because our views are incompatible with the hive-mind there, and you either get brigaded, or banned. And when we *do* discuss what's happening with the game, we are forced to put up with people coming along and denigrating us for holding these views, and we're lumped in as "puppets of PHD Doctor Derek", which is frankly an insult. I can't speak for anyone else here, but I'm an adult and able to form my own opinions.
Star Citizen's success is not guaranteed. The whole point of this discussion is that there are huge great alarm bells ringing. The ship's computer is shouting "AWOOGA" and threatening to go to purple alert. Star Citizen's progress is worrying: time passes, not much changes. What was, at one point, an open goal has become crowded. I have no doubt that Star Citizen (and Squadron 42) will release in some form, at some time. I have my suspicions that they'll be a compromised vision, not because the funding will dry up (there are too many pliant whales for that) but because the game and CIG themselves will start to become an irrelevant sidenote of the space genre and other bigger players will do what CIG are doing, and do it better.
Still no signings ? I'm disapoint. Talking is easy, walking another thingCommon folks, smart would be proud lol You might even reach Hero statues in other forums...
What the blazes is "Wholly trinity"? Is this some strange play on words I'm not getting? Maybe you should have stuck with the classic "Holy", your Lord Croberts is shining down on you.
It's a simple case of saying; I'm in for that AVATAR / SIGN Bet that [ YES / NO ]
"Star Citizen will have the wholly trinity of gaming with seamless: MultiCrew-EVA-FPS-Solar System-Procedural Planets-Planetary Landing before any other Game out-here.
That includes all the existing ones and the others to come: EvE, Elite, NMS, COD, Mass-Effect, Star Wars: Battlefront, Evochron, Limit Theory, Everspace you name it."
I called it, anyone following suit or not this all charade is registered anyway, beauty of interwebs.
"Star Citizen will have the wholly trinity of gaming with seamless: MultiCrew-EVA-FPS-Solar System-Procedural Planets-Planetary Landing before any other Game out-here.
That includes all the existing ones and the others to come: EvE, Elite, NMS, COD, Mass-Effect, Star Wars: Battlefront, Evochron, Limit Theory, Everspace you name it."
I called it, anyone following suit or not this all charade is registered anyway, beauty of interwebs.
Insignificant_The_Galaxy_Cat
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Umm, hate to break it to you mate, but someone had already listed a bunch of already released, or soon to be released, games that already do what Star Citizen/Squadron 42 is attempting in various ways, and usually with far more competency.
darkoff
You know all that talk about cod:iw reminds of the fact that star marine still hasnt delivered
you know that fps module which will totally be killer of cod and battlefield
featuring procedurally generated destructible meshes similar to battlefield 4.
last delivery date chris has said was 3 weeks and he said that back in March 6th. 2015
when that timeline passed ben lesnick said that its only weeks away July 2015
Now over year has passed and star marine is nowhere to be seen
I seriously cant take this project seriously and all the free to play weeks have just kept confirming my suspicion
the project has no clear roadmap. Chris roberts has no idea what hes doing. Everyone else keeps making amazing space games that have long passed the progress of star citizen.
No Man's Sky
everspace
battlescape infinity
elite dangerous
elite dangerous horizon
Rebel Galaxy
Empyrion
PULSAR: Lost Colony
Angels Fall First
EVE Valkyrie
cdf star fighter
Goat Simulator: Waste of Space which also mocks star citizen. (npc says "star citizen took all of my money")
Seriously a game has to be pretty darn late to get parody game released before the game its parodying is finished
you know that fps module which will totally be killer of cod and battlefield
featuring procedurally generated destructible meshes similar to battlefield 4.
last delivery date chris has said was 3 weeks and he said that back in March 6th. 2015
when that timeline passed ben lesnick said that its only weeks away July 2015
Now over year has passed and star marine is nowhere to be seen
I seriously cant take this project seriously and all the free to play weeks have just kept confirming my suspicion
the project has no clear roadmap. Chris roberts has no idea what hes doing. Everyone else keeps making amazing space games that have long passed the progress of star citizen.
No Man's Sky
everspace
battlescape infinity
elite dangerous
elite dangerous horizon
Rebel Galaxy
Empyrion
PULSAR: Lost Colony
Angels Fall First
EVE Valkyrie
cdf star fighter
Goat Simulator: Waste of Space which also mocks star citizen. (npc says "star citizen took all of my money")
Seriously a game has to be pretty darn late to get parody game released before the game its parodying is finished
Sorry I'm not the one with the personal attacks, anyone here constantly attacking Chris Roberts, Sandy Gardner and CIG Staff in general is resolving to personal attacks, I'm just calling them out to stop those attacks because they ago against the forum rules, as they know very well, yet they still persist
Pointing out facts are not against the forum rules. CIG customer support has placed labels like "Goon", "Snowflake" and "High Maintenance". This is not my personal opinion, its a fact.
You might not like it but that doesnt make it a personal attack.
If you think CIG labelling is defensible then please defend away.
But dont start with the passive/agressive throwing about of "its against the forum rules", it doesnt do anything to progress the thread and comes across as a tactic to dispel criticism (IMO).
Nop doesn't work that way, this is the Space/SciFi Games / Star Citizen thread, not the CIG thread or the SA/Derek branch thread.
Anything not remotely even close to the GAME doesn't belong here. If you want to discuss studio custom doors, coffe machines, sandi acting talent, open your own thread and vent all you want.
This is about games ,but since no one plays it, they have nothing better to do than just hate on it lol, too bad it keeps backfiring and it's free laughs for the bystanders.
Edit: Still waiting for Signings for that AVATAR/SIGN Bet, common how hard can it be? SC is gonna fail isn't it? All doom and gloom, no possible escape from Roberts mismanagement ... [squeeeee]
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I hate to break it to you but you dont get to decide what gets posted on this thread.
You will need to install the game and rebind your keys and then log in to understand, sorry but reading forums and watching youtube videos doesn't cut i
Ohh really I see how much of the actual game-play you are been enjoying it when you spending more time defending that piece of .hit instead of playing it....And yeah I admit that I didn't try it yet 2.4 version but that's the only reason why I was been so generous lately when comes to the SC..just wait....
I don't think he understandsIt's a simple case of saying; I'm in for that AVATAR / SIGN Bet that [ YES / NO ]
"Star Citizen will have the wholly trinity of gaming with seamless: MultiCrew-EVA-FPS-Solar System-Procedural Planets-Planetary Landing before any other Game out-here.
That includes all the existing ones and the others to come: EvE, Elite, NMS, COD, Mass-Effect, Star Wars: Battlefront, Evochron, Limit Theory, Everspace you name it."
I called it, anyone following suit or not this all charade is registered anyway, beauty of interwebs.
Insignificant_The_Galaxy_Cat
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It's a simple case of saying; I'm in for that AVATAR / SIGN Bet that [ YES / NO ]
"Star Citizen will have the wholly trinity of gaming with seamless: MultiCrew-EVA-FPS-Solar System-Procedural Planets-Planetary Landing before any other Game out-here.
That includes all the existing ones and the others to come: EvE, Elite, NMS, COD, Mass-Effect, Star Wars: Battlefront, Evochron, Limit Theory, Everspace you name it."
I called it, anyone following suit or not this all charade is registered anyway, beauty of interwebs.
....Que?
I haven't the FOGGIEST idea what you just said there, or what it even *means*. I mean, I can understand that you are likely not a native English speaker/typist, but trying to tease out any coherent context with what this, and several of your most recent statements mean is seriously testing the old grey matter old chap.
Insignificant_The_Galaxy_Cat
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*Edit* Still waiting for confirmation from the Frontier community management team that your application for forum moderator has been accepted or not.
Yeah talk about a main core melt down, however I would like to know what the FPS are? is it supported by CIG or just the usual modding and fiddling around from backers. We are not talking about a game where there isn't any support, and the company didn't say that they would support it. Nope we're talking about a company who went out, took a huge pile of free money claiming they would support it and then drop it like a rock on your foot. THAT is what we are talking about.
It's a simple case of saying; I'm in for that AVATAR / SIGN Bet that [ YES / NO ]
"Star Citizen will have the wholly trinity of gaming with seamless: MultiCrew-EVA-FPS-Solar System-Procedural Planets-Planetary Landing before any other Game out-here.
That includes all the existing ones and the others to come: EvE, Elite, NMS, COD, Mass-Effect, Star Wars: Battlefront, Evochron, Limit Theory, Everspace you name it."
I called it, anyone following suit or not this all charade is registered anyway, beauty of interwebs.
out of those games listed pulsar lost colony does all that you mentioned
hell it even has ship sub systems already done too
and planetary fps.
btw heres yet another space game to be hyped about
http://dyingsungame.com/
releases tomorrow
+ theres more i just cant remember all of em
They actually did the effort and mocked with style LOL, and it was even playable too.
I think they both use the same physics engine, elastic collisions etc.
You said it, well written and so true. The last year I was able to write on the RSI forum any critical post or thread was gunned down by the loyalists. Instantly you were hanged by the neck until you were dead.
This is the ghost zone, we all resurrected here.
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This is one of the more bizarre threats I've heard after little more than fair observation of amateurish efforts at CS that ended up being gold-standard proven by their emergency refit of CS.
I don't think anyone here wants to "make a difference" - we're painfully aware we can't and I don't think there's any desire to try and turn off new backers if they see what's been done and love it - there's just a truly staggering level of incredulity and confusion at what the heck is going on. With no real output in so very very long how can you expect anyone to believe your claims anymore?
At least these forums can be flattered to have attracted special attention. Stop baiting and pushing videos people have seen before and just listen - we just want to see tangible process and any sense of strategy that leads to a completed game.
Well written post, that reflects most of that what im thinking about SC.
Actually a lot SC backers keep telling me the opposite. SC makes huge progress and im not understanding the whole backing and that producings a big MMO will take years.
Well sure i dont read in the SC forums, but i really see no big progress and i doubt there will be a game release end of 2016.
I think the whole fact its still not forgotten, is still the discusion if it is a fraud, because nothing finished gets deliverd or will a finished product delivered.
I can care kinda less about it and i really think by the time something gets released not many ppl have interest left. This Alpha software got by far to much hyped and i kinda feel sorry for the ppl that did go with the hype and spend hundrets and thousends of $.
Im sure there will be a release of something (to avoid legal activitys) but i really think it will not meet the expertaions.
Well i look forward to December 2016 and see what happens.
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