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The Star Citizen Thread v5
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This is the best glitch I have seen from this game yet!
Oh God noes, conflicting interests. Please get rid of the mod!!
Sorry to see you go Taren. Actually that's not entirely true.
I'd say any half decent forum ought to look at CIG's latest ToS and call it out for the giant stitch up it obviously is.
Star Citizen: Destroying crowd funding one ToS at a time!
I don´t really keep up with all the minutiae of info they put out, the noise to signal ratio is just too high for me but I´m surprised they would say that. I think CR just thought it´d be like making a movie, where you take a lot of shots and then fit them together to tell a story... at least that´s how I understand some movies are made. As an engineer of the non software variety (the closest to being a programmer I´ve gotten to is being a TA for the introduction FORTRAN programming course, so.... not close at all lol!), even I would´ve thought that you can´t just make something highly technical and then hope that it fits with other highly technical parts! That´d be like me designing a piece to a millimeter precision (lets be generous) and then just eyeball and freehand the corresponding part it matches to and hoping for the best!
It wouldn´t be so bad if they had used their own mo-cap gear; you know, the gear and studio they were making so they could do it cheaply, control all of it, and rent it out to to others to keep the cost down? But no, they had to use one of the best (and likely priciest) mo-cap studio, which of course they also hyped.... I don´t get hyped by them using expensive services for its own sake. And now... they don´t know how to make it fit? I sincerely hope its just a poor choice of words and that its not as bad as it seems.
P.S. Just thought i´d finally chime in, I´ve been following this thread and its predecessor for quite a while but it moves so fast its hard to comment on something that isn´t already several days behind!
Well CGI/RSI are keeping us busy with all the new ideas every day!
update:
currently cant get back to the game - servers are overloaded or something.
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2.4 will be the final version of the game (aka MVP) in full conformance with the new ToS, you agreed to.
Enjoy it, while it lasts.
Story goes - my girlfriend was in charge to update SC client (it takes forever) and she just agreed to the new TOs with out reading it. AKA my lil brother did it....
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So in 2.4 do you respawn where you exited the game, or do you wake up in the shower with Bobby Ewing every time? I'm wondering about how different interpretations of persistence are being implemented?
You still respawn in your lil bed cabin every time but your credits/assets are with you.
Not eligible for a refund aye? I have an email with my refund from last August in my email inbox that would like to have a word with you. Know how I got it? Told them I was going to contact the FTC over having not delivered the product on time (their own timeline of Nov2014) and that also, thus far (then), what had been delivered of Arena Commander was pretty much Freelancer 2.0 when we were promised Wing Commander 2.0. Bait and switch.
Pre-ordering (that's what everyone did by PURCHASING ships) is not a pledge.
proKar_garlic
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Is that a premonition or whisful thinking?
No, you can rent equipment and you will be able to buy ships ingame with ingame credits, the ingame store is being setup.
Can I ask what's the end game here? Why people that clearly don't like the game direction, management, mechanics keep posting deceptive lies after lies, suggesting refunds when that should be the very last option in an extreme case, remember the guy asking what to do with it's Star Citizen old package ($30 bucks) and people advising him to go on a refund hunt instead of selling in the grey-market for 200% profit? That move right there just shows the main objective of some, not moved by other gamers/backers best interest or caring about , they are invested in undermining Star Citizen as a crowd-funded project / game. They want it to go down and burn into the ground for petty reasons:
- Dislike of flight model direction
- LTI sold again (crashing their grey-market business, removing their another "im special" token)
- Being banned from CIG forums for being troublemakers (having an dissident opinion is ok, expressing it in a harsh aggressive way, not ok)
- Fear of competition (Other space games enthusiasts that see Star Citizen success as the final nail in another game's coffin)
And so on and so on. Mocking , harassing CIG or the game it's ok here, calling it's developers scamers, con-artists , no one bat's an eye. "All in good fun" it's said, turn the tides, you mock those same doubtful people and you are attacked by most posters here and reprehended by "off-topic" content or other meaningful reason...
You call this constant mocking "simple humour" but if it goes against your beliefs or games you like, you cant deal with it and report posts giving mod's no choice to act just so they can get a break.
Not fair or evenly balanced this thread, that's why most of the Pro-Star Citizen posters get banned or simply leave this thread.
Flight model is a pretty large foundation in a Space Game. SC's Flight Model is, in my humble opinion - simply terrible.
LTI sold again - doesn't matter to me.
Banned from CIG forums - doesn't matter to me - I'm not banned but don't spend much time there as it's simply an awful forum to read, in my humble opinion.
Fear of Competition - I'm all for competing Space Games.
What made me want a refund is absolute failure to deliver product and yet another change in the Terms Of Service - which I absolutely do not agree to - as the changes are staggering.
Derek Smart was and is right.
The pro-SC posters get banned because they can't post without resorting to personal attacks.
You make it sound like a matter of taste. Well the flight controls might be, but can we really argue about the management? How is the outrage about the TOS changes not understandable? Better yet, how can you claim that there's "deceptive lies after lies" being posted? Or do you mean the posts that claim that 2.4 works just fine? Yeah those are a bit deceptive. Friend of my nephew tried it out just recently and experienced them first hand. It's really not "just a few people" having issues. It's everyone, and you really have to turn a blind eye to not see them.
The problem with that analysis is that they aren't lies and anybody who has backed the project since 2012 knows this.
They sold ships as rare and limited with LTI(never to be sold again) to extract premium pricing = lie by CIG
They promised when asked about controls being zero-order that it would be virtual joystick with no mouse controls like Freelancer = lie by CIG
They said limited ships were only available next 48 hours never to be sold again to give a perception of value=lie by CIG
They promised Star Marine in Weeks when there is no way they could have really believed it was ready=lie by CIG
Sorry dude its not the backers telling the lies here, they are just telling their side of the story in a non-biased forum where it cant be downvoted and surpressed.
I'm not speaking for anyone else here but as far as I'm concerned it's absolutely okay - now - after this ToS - to mock Chris Roberts and his team and his joke of a game.
In my opinion it is also good fun - precisely because it upsets people like you who pop in this thread just to get offended. And if you defend the new ToS then as far as I'm concerned you deserve to be offended and have the the same ridicule heaped on you that Chris Roberts and CIG so richly deserve.
Does that clarify things for you?
Ian Phillips
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Please DO NOT target other forum users.
It will not end well.
It will not end well.
Let's not forget that people have been called liars for even suggesting that Star Marine was canceled. And then it was canceled. Only for CR to claim that Star Marine has been rolled into the PU. Which was not at all the case since most of the weapons, the gamemodes, maps and other features such as Sataball are not there. Plus as we know from the StarMarine devs, the contract was not ended normally but sudden and unexpectedly, with almost none of the work done for StarMarine having been used in the PU.
I'd recommend against that. Personal fights just detract from the issue at hand. Let's keep this about SC and not about the backers.
I'd recommend against that. Personal fights just detract from the issue at hand. Let's keep this about SC and not about the backers.
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