The Star Citizen Thread v5

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Also being a concierge level backer, I can honestly say that there are times (OK, most of the time) when Major Tom's videos are the only thing keeping any sense of humour for me with this waste of digital space.
 
Just watched a guy called "Nearchous" on Twitch streaming some Star Citizen.

I joined in mid-stream, as he was trying to engage in some FPS action. He got to one of those space stations in his ship, ran around for a bit after he landed, then got shot by a commander who was invisible.

He re-spawned back at Port Olisar, headed out to the place where you order a ship, only then to find that no matter what ship he selected, a big fat "X" sign would appear on the screen, denying him a ship. After doing this for a solid couple of minutes, he eventually decided to just run out to the nearest landing pad and see what ship was waiting there.

It was a Constellation (I think) which he approached, opening up the cargo bay doors at the back easily enough. Then he tried to make his way through the ship to get to the cockpit... Except that he found his way blocked due to the <<USE>> button not appearing on the HUD.

Which meant he couldn't open the door.

Try as he might, the <<USE>> icon refused to show up as his avatar bobbled awkwardly from one side of the ship's hallway to the next. Eventually Nearchous tired of this and simply ran at the obdurate obstruction, hoping to clip through it and make it to the corridor beyond... and it worked!

He then proceeded to the second door in the chain, with the cockpit tantalizingly close on the other side of the door's window. But yet again the curse of the non-existent <<USE>> icon rendered the door another immovable barrier....

And then Star Citizen crashed on him, live on stream.

I proceeded to laugh loudly (which I had been doing since this guy's struggles with ordering a ship) whilst there was a deafening silence on the stream as a black screen dominated the view. Then, with a heavy sigh, the Nearchous annouced that he was going to take a break from Star Citizen for a few minutes, his voice not able to contain the frustration and disappointment he clearly was feeling, and that's when I logged out myself.


So, I guess that this is the "fun" all those enthusiastic Star Citizen's are having with the 2.4 PU, "fun" that utterly blows away the drudgery and emptiness that is Elite: Dangerous and all those other games that just cannot compare to the "Best Damned Space Sim Ever!"....


Yeah right!
 
Just watched a guy called "Nearchous" on Twitch streaming some Star Citizen.

I joined in mid-stream, as he was trying to engage in some FPS action. He got to one of those space stations in his ship, ran around for a bit after he landed, then got shot by a commander who was invisible.

He re-spawned back at Port Olisar, headed out to the place where you order a ship, only then to find that no matter what ship he selected, a big fat "X" sign would appear on the screen, denying him a ship. After doing this for a solid couple of minutes, he eventually decided to just run out to the nearest landing pad and see what ship was waiting there.

It was a Constellation (I think) which he approached, opening up the cargo bay doors at the back easily enough. Then he tried to make his way through the ship to get to the cockpit... Except that he found his way blocked due to the <<USE>> button not appearing on the HUD.

Which meant he couldn't open the door.

Try as he might, the <<USE>> icon refused to show up as his avatar bobbled awkwardly from one side of the ship's hallway to the next. Eventually Nearchous tired of this and simply ran at the obdurate obstruction, hoping to clip through it and make it to the corridor beyond... and it worked!

He then proceeded to the second door in the chain, with the cockpit tantalizingly close on the other side of the door's window. But yet again the curse of the non-existent <<USE>> icon rendered the door another immovable barrier....

And then Star Citizen crashed on him, live on stream.

I proceeded to laugh loudly (which I had been doing since this guy's struggles with ordering a ship) whilst there was a deafening silence on the stream as a black screen dominated the view. Then, with a heavy sigh, the Nearchous annouced that he was going to take a break from Star Citizen for a few minutes, his voice not able to contain the frustration and disappointment he clearly was feeling, and that's when I logged out myself.


So, I guess that this is the "fun" all those enthusiastic Star Citizen's are having with the 2.4 PU, "fun" that utterly blows away the drudgery and emptiness that is Elite: Dangerous and all those other games that just cannot compare to the "Best Damned Space Sim Ever!"....


Yeah right!

I love watching star citizen streams (baby poo or what's that called, not vandul swarm mode). They are always hilariously funny :D The dogfighting is especially fun when they are sitting on the same spot, spinning and strafing like a turret glued to a hockey puck, while the same british guy curses at them.
 
Aaahh - but when SC is released - it's going to be the most epic game of all time. We just don't understand game development, AAA casting, or gameplay.

It's going to be better than everything since the 8-bit days put together, it'll have more fidelity than a nunnery, a better shopping experience than Amazon, more intense gameplay than Progress Quest, a fight model so realistic that the rules of physics will have to be redefined, and graphics that would make DaVinci himself gasp and leak a little bit. It's going to be so unimaginable awesome that it has to be introduced bit by bit, with deliberate defects introduced to shield us from it's full majesty. It is, after all, CR's vision made manifest, and it must therefore be perfect.
 
Aaahh - but when SC is released - it's going to be the most epic game of all time. We just don't understand game development, AAA casting, or gameplay.

It's going to be better than everything since the 8-bit days put together, it'll have more fidelity than a nunnery, a better shopping experience than Amazon, more intense gameplay than Progress Quest, a fight model so realistic that the rules of physics will have to be redefined, and graphics that would make DaVinci himself gasp and leak a little bit. It's going to be so unimaginable awesome that it has to be introduced bit by bit, with deliberate defects introduced to shield us from it's full majesty. It is, after all, CR's vision made manifest, and it must therefore be perfect.


You may joke, but there's a universe out there- a parallel one- where SC is where ED is now and Vice Verse (pun intended).
So... uh...

Damn I forgot my point.
 
Aaahh - but when SC is released - it's going to be the most epic game of all time. We just don't understand game development, AAA casting, or gameplay.

It's going to be better than everything since the 8-bit days put together, it'll have more fidelity than a nunnery, a better shopping experience than Amazon, more intense gameplay than Progress Quest, a fight model so realistic that the rules of physics will have to be redefined, and graphics that would make DaVinci himself gasp and leak a little bit. It's going to be so unimaginable awesome that it has to be introduced bit by bit, with deliberate defects introduced to shield us from it's full majesty. It is, after all, CR's vision made manifest, and it must therefore be perfect.

Love your work.

It's going to be AWESOME!
 
Oooh! WOW! THANK YOU!

:D

Heh, and they said that these forums were toxic.
Rep!

Who cares about the toxic levels...just bring your "Gas-Mask":)!!!

D15C40745_zpsuutx4usb.jpg


But joke aside honestly this thread is the "BEST" place on the web if you want to find out the truth and nothing but the truth about the SC development atm...You can collect "data"from all angles&sides + most of the posters are mature Gents that usually don't "fight" between eachother and even if they do occasionally they will use"gloves"........
 
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Yet more stuff appears to be heavily faked in-game. This time, it appears instead of persistence on the character to determine if you're wearing suitable clothing for a zero atmosphere environment, it entirely relies on whether a use button has been pressed or not...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqRgt-3ywDI

Well I was not surprised at alll...they just confirm when I said that some of them are "Clowns"currently emloyed at Clowns Imperial Games(CIG)
 
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Yet more stuff appears to be heavily faked in-game. This time, it appears instead of persistence on the character to determine if you're wearing suitable clothing for a zero atmosphere environment, it entirely relies on whether a use button has been pressed or not...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqRgt-3ywDI

Haha I love oversights like this, it leads to some really odd things during development. I'm sure they will patch that out pretty quickly. I think "heavily faked" is maybe a bit harsh. Sure for now they are doing a simple boolean check to see if the player is wearing a spacesuit when they click the button but I suspect this is only temporary. They won't be able to use this trick when a ship transfers from space to a planet with an atmosphere or when a ship is in space and the hull is breached allowing the air to escape. CIG will have to come up with some other way of performing this check in real time.
 
Haha I love oversights like this, it leads to some really odd things during development. I'm sure they will patch that out pretty quickly. I think "heavily faked" is maybe a bit harsh. Sure for now they are doing a simple boolean check to see if the player is wearing a spacesuit when they click the button but I suspect this is only temporary. They won't be able to use this trick when a ship transfers from space to a planet with an atmosphere or when a ship is in space and the hull is breached allowing the air to escape. CIG will have to come up with some other way of performing this check in real time.

Whats finished in your opinion then?.
Shops maybe?

I kinda hate the explanation its a placeholder. Because it practically currently applies to everything ingame. Theres always some stretch goal that makes the need of refactor apparent.
They just keep doing design documents over and over again instead of confessing that yes they overscoped the project.
 
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Who cares about the toxic levels...just bring your "Gas-Mask":)!!!

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r232/goliat33/D15C40745_zpsuutx4usb.jpg

But joke aside honestly this thread is the "BEST" place on the web if you want to find out the truth and nothing but the truth about the SC development atm...You can collect "data"from all angles&sides + most of the posters are mature Gents that usually don't "fight" between eachother and even if they do occasionally they will use"gloves"........

And that honestly was why it was so nice to find this thread. I'm not interested in trying to convince anyone to denounce SC, or to join them either. Used to be that you could at least discuss perceived issues about it's progress on reddit without needing a shower and full rabies treatment afterwards, but those days are gone. There has to be someplace where you can discuss these things without the zealotry. And as long as you're prepared to back up what you say with actual facts, not dreamy theorycrafting, I'll be the first one to jump in and defend your right to your opinion, whether I agree with you or not.

The real shame is that it had to be on the forums of another developer, and not on the game developers site.
 
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I kinda hate the explanation its a placeholder. Because it practically currently applies to everything ingame.
Indeed, the current client is a placeholder for a game. It's a mock-up presented to fool people (especially game journalists). That has been the case for the past four years. I don't think that will ever change.
 
Indeed, the current client is a placeholder for a game. It's a mock-up presented to fool people (especially game journalists). That has been the case for the past four years. I don't think that will ever change.

You just don't understand placeholder development. The whole game has been hiding in plain sight in the current placeholder for the last four years because CR said so - it's not for game journalists (or anyone) to decide otherwise :D
 
Whats finished in your opinion then?.
Shops maybe?

I kinda hate the explanation its a placeholder. Because it practically currently applies to everything ingame. Theres always some stretch goal that makes the need of refactor apparent.
They just keep doing design documents over and over again instead of confessing that yes they overscoped the project.

Oh I won't disagree that there is still a ton of work left to do (we can't buy ships in shops yet so that's not done for example). In fact I believe that almost nothing is "done" - done as in 100% complete that is. This is not surprising though given the game is still in development; things are going to change. I do think that of all the tasks that are in progress they are all making their way towards that 100% done goal however. Over the past year the engine's 64 bit conversion has been completed. The ship pipeline is in place. Sizing for cargo, weapons and upgrade slots (engines, shields, etc) has been finalised. Things are getting done, it's just taking longer than a lot of people would like.
 
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