The Star Citizen Thread v5

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Hate is not the word I would use and neither should you.

People who use the word 'hate' in these context have no clue what that word means. I guess thats a SC thing though, just use words like 'hate' and 'fidelity' randomly and hope it'll occassionally almost make sense.
 
The onus is with CIG to prove the doubters wrong. Up to now in my opinion, they have failed.
Honestly, I don't even want them to focus on proving anything to anyone.

Every demo they produce is about proving that all your space game wet dreams will come true. CR spends extensive capital and man-hours on these events and demos when they need to be hitting the pavement on the game they already have funded.

Forget the shows, forget the demos, just have everyone working towards the same goal, all the time. When they have something FINISHED or NEARLY FINISHED to show then yeah, by all means, get a live stream going and show that off with pride. Until then, I'd rather have 100% silence coming from CIG/RSI.


But the funding campaign takes priority...every forking time. Unbelievable.
 
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But first CIG needs to showcase that. So i know what im supposed to mimic. They just happened to land on the only detailed spot on the planet.
the ground texture i would need to mimic for most of planet would be like this http://i.imgur.com/IDV7Yli.png

Now that i think about it the bengal scale was way off the guy walked from bridge of javelin to rear of it in under a minute
the walk from bridge to rear of bengal only took 30 seconds (calculated without the pauses the guy took to scope around)
30x3m/s= 90meters. (over estimate average walking speed of human is 1.4m/s and that would equal 42 meters)
http://static1.gamespot.com/uploads/scale_large/1333/13335885/3093224-3062201696-8rCVn.jpg
that carrier is supposed to be 300 meters.
conclusion bengal has been scaled down.

The only way calculations of size would match up was if the guy was running at usain bolt speed of 44.64 km/h

lol@ his request for a 'small planet of only 2000k radius'. I guess he forgot what scale the SC planets will be. :D Btw, maybe the commando was a giant and the ship is correctly scaled?
 
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People who use the word 'hate' in these context have no clue what that word means. I guess thats a SC thing though, just use words like 'hate' and 'fidelity' randomly and hope it'll occassionally almost make sense.

Having a sense of humour would help them through these dark times, don't you think?
 
maybe its because in the beginning we gave them a lot of slack, they then lied to us, they openly mocked some of the backers, and they was spending money given to them to make a game on garbage!!!

If you treat people like crap, you can expect they will turn on you at some point, and that is what happened.

I can understand that from one backer's point of view. Note taken.

At the end, CiG helped two indie kickstarter games I am interested in a lot more than SC -Dual universe and Infinity Battlescape- by calling their community to pledge. While Sir Braben remained completely silent as if he couldn't care less about the revivial of space games genre he used to talk about so much not long ago. Perhaps that`s why I am a bit defensive regarding Chris Roberts. I know this doesn't have anything to do with the development of SC alone, so pardon me for this little offtopic.
 

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I can give you exactly 1464 examples.

Good that you have so much. Now... show me one where we were unfair with RSI. That should be fast since your list seems big. Then we can discuss if the guy is right or wrong in his perception, or he is just made a silly/prejudice comment with no value.

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I can understand that from one backer's point of view. Note taken.

At the end, CiG helped two indie kickstarter games I am interested in a lot more than SC -Dual universe and Infinity Battlescape- by calling their community to pledge. While Sir Braben remained completely silent as if he couldn't care less about the revivial of space games genre he used to talk about so much not long ago. Perhaps that`s why I am a bit defensive regarding Chris Roberts. I know this doesn't have anything to do with the development of SC alone, so pardon me for this little offtopic.

Or maybe Dual Universe and Infinity Battlescape was barely funded because people were burned by the continuous false advertising approach of RSI, reflecting in lack of trust in any game of the genre, specially crowdfunded. Perhaps that's why people here are not defensive at all regarding Chris Roberts.

The fact that you think that Roberts is a sort of hero, and "helped these games to be funded" is a total inversion of the reality. Wasn't by his attitude along the last years, probably those games would receive a lot more funds. He has 500k backers. How many he brought to these projects? Here you can see how credible he is with his actual community (all backers, not just 2000k-4000k cheerleaders) or the general public.
 
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I can understand that from one backer's point of view. Note taken.

At the end, CiG helped two indie kickstarter games I am interested in a lot more than SC -Dual universe and Infinity Battlescape- by calling their community to pledge. While Sir Braben remained completely silent as if he couldn't care less about the revivial of space games genre he used to talk about so much not long ago. Perhaps that`s why I am a bit defensive regarding Chris Roberts. I know this doesn't have anything to do with the development of SC alone, so pardon me for this little offtopic.

Are you confusing these video game studio founders with politicians perhaps?
 
I can understand that from one backer's point of view. Note taken.

At the end, CiG helped two indie kickstarter games I am interested in a lot more than SC -Dual universe and Infinity Battlescape- by calling their community to pledge. While Sir Braben remained completely silent as if he couldn't care less about the revivial of space games genre he used to talk about so much not long ago. Perhaps that`s why I am a bit defensive regarding Chris Roberts. I know this doesn't have anything to do with the development of SC alone, so pardon me for this little offtopic.

To be honest I think Sir Braben by making a really good space game has done wonders to revive the genre.

Certainly more than Chris Roberts who seems to be trying to kill the genre again by concentrating all the available crowd-funding cash and then wasting it.
 
I can understand that from one backer's point of view. Note taken.

At the end, CiG helped two indie kickstarter games I am interested in a lot more than SC -Dual universe and Infinity Battlescape- by calling their community to pledge. While Sir Braben remained completely silent as if he couldn't care less about the revivial of space games genre he used to talk about so much not long ago. Perhaps that`s why I am a bit defensive regarding Chris Roberts. I know this doesn't have anything to do with the development of SC alone, so pardon me for this little offtopic.

And then took the      out of another space game by effectively saying "Oh look... we can make space worms!". Classy.

I think DB is busy working on his game.
 
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I can understand that from one backer's point of view. Note taken.

At the end, CiG helped two indie kickstarter games I am interested in a lot more than SC -Dual universe and Infinity Battlescape- by calling their community to pledge. While Sir Braben remained completely silent as if he couldn't care less about the revivial of space games genre he used to talk about so much not long ago. Perhaps that`s why I am a bit defensive regarding Chris Roberts. I know this doesn't have anything to do with the development of SC alone, so pardon me for this little offtopic.

CR did that to promote himself, as long as he think he is on the high ground, he will pad the little children on the head.

DB don't because that is not his job, he is in charge of a company not a charity organisation, however he always said that more space game is good for the industry.
endorsing can also turn on you, who want to be endorsed by a failure? until now that is what project SC is, a complete failure.

The game is years out, they have not demonstrated anything that will boost my confidence in their skills to pull it off.

I backed I: with $100 I almost didn't because of CR endorsing it.
 
DS was correct, the demo just distracts from the real issues, that of a game whose development has ground to a halt in terms of playable progress.

There's a new road map, but at the moment it appears highly speculative given what's come in the previous 4 years.
 
I think the simple fact Roberts is endlessly writing newsletters, blogs and making lengthy videos talking about all the stuff that will be in Star Citizen gives him ample opportunity to mention other games. He did this early on and the community responded with cries of how "awesome" it is that Roberts is mentioning other games. So yeah, it's cheap and easy to simply keep doing it.

DB used to give regular updates but then had to deliver a game, the community took everything he said in a few videos as gospel and informed the press when the offline mode was dropped. When DB announces anything it's open season for the axe grinders, anything he said is interpreted in seventy thousand different ways for all possible play styles - anyone whose interpretation of events does not come to pass announces their hatred of ED/DB/Frontier and Ian Bell's cat... So we don't hear from him on a regular basis. Also he's probably busy with other games or awesome stuff like the raspberry pi or BAFTA or some such thing. Not to mention just adding a section to the newsletter where Braben randomly mentions other Kickstarters would look like a cheap emulation of Roberts 'look how great it is that know about some games or things' trick.
 
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I think the simple fact Roberts is endlessly writing newsletters, blogs and making lengthy videos talking about all the stuff that will be in Star Citizen gives him ample opportunity to mention other games. He did this early on and the community responded with cries of how "awesome" it is that Roberts is mentioning other games. So yeah, it's cheap and easy to simply keep doing it.

DB used to give regular updates but then had to deliver a game, the community took everything he said in a few videos as gospel and informed the press when the offline mode was dropped. When DB announces anything it's open season for the axe grinders, anything he said is interpreted in seventy thousand different ways for all possible play styles - anyone whose interpretation of events does not come to pass announces their hatred of ED/DB/Frontier and Ian Bell's cat... So we don't hear from him on a regular basis. Also he's probably busy with other games or awesome stuff like the raspberry pi or BAFTA or some such thing. Not to mention just adding a section to the newsletter where Braben randomly mentions other Kickstarters would look like a cheap emulation of Roberts 'look how great it is that know about some games or things' trick.

Roberts has also had sly digs at games too. NMS and ED to name but two.
 
Like I said before, if they wanted to demonstrate planet tech then why didn't they? They buzzed by two biomes and showed us 1 in detail that was heavily hand-crafted.

If they wanted to show us how quickly and easily they can make this stuff then why not, you know, do that. Or at least show us the many fruits of such an efficient and fast process.

It is, again, all words. Just words to go with pretty pictures and doctored demos.

Like ED did in a livestream showing of several planets they generated? :)
 
It goes without saying that the build costs of that PC will be much higher in the UK. It does match my system very closely, apart from the graphics card (an R290).
I built it purely to run ED in VR. I will need a new graphics card in the near future. PC gaming ain't cheap.

What amuses me is people planning their imminent PC builds around Star Citizen, as though we won't be several generations of CPU/GPU down the road by the time that's a relevant factor.

I'm surprised they didn't use a Titan in the demo rig. Maybe they couldn't afford one.
 
It is good question why I am keeping reading this thread. Yes, I will admit, when SC Kickstarter turned up just before ED Kickstarter I thought it will be end of Elite. But there were enough people to buy into ED pitch from FD.

Fast forward - SC keeps sucking up hype, attention while keep staying buggy, glitchy, no show demonstration of potential. I am BORED by project itself. Some technical parts of it interests me - flight model, I like ship internals (although there's close to no gameplay around them), aaaaand basically that's it. Generic FPS, which is jerky. Nothing definite. Nothing exciting.

I am here because I find it fascinating why people keep buying into this.
 
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